I am old and crippled up

Posted by okwrangler @okwrangler, Jun 29, 2021

I am 75. I can not sit, stand, or walk. I can not ride in a car. I can find no one NO ONE to help me. I worked all my life and ow I am crippled up and can not do anything. Doctors will not help me, the VA will not help me, Medicare will not help me, AARP will not help me. Right now I am just trying to find some organization that will help me get back up on my feet. Anybody got any ideas? Thank you for reading my gripe.

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@becsbuddy

Your comment from Mayo Clinic came through as only a series of letters and numbers. Can you just tell us what you were saying?
I know that this must be a very difficult time for you. I like the advice that @artist01 gave about calling and asking for a social worker to speak to and help you.
Why did you say no to Medicaid?

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Okay, I actually asked jf I could get a social worker to talk to me and they said no.  They did not explain why I could not, only no.
They asked if I wanted to sign up for Medicaid to get food.  And I told them that I was not looking for food assistance or money, I just was looking for someone to help me get back up on my feet.  That is when he told me that the only advice he could give me was to call 9-1-1..
You see, my wife and I do not have a lot of money.  We paid off all our bills before we retired.  When we get our monthly Social Security checks, we have enough to live on.  We do not need food assistance or our electric bill paid (Medicaid), I am just trying to get upright and not lay in the floor all of the time. I actually enjoy working and really wanted to rebuild old cars when I retired, but that has not happened.  Sorry, too much information.
Thank you

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@okwrangler
So why not call 911? When you get to the hospital ask to talk to a Social Worker. Whenever I needed assistance in the hospital and asked to see one they came. I don’t think calling 911 is unreasonable because it seems obvious that you are in need of medical care. Tell the doctor at the Emergency Room all that you've been through. Have you ever been told by a surgeon that there was no surgery that could benefit you? All too often in the medical world doctors don’t want to do surgery on older patients, for example I have a 101 year-old friend and was she was originally told she was to old for surgery. Her daughter said “so your just going to let her die? Dying during surgery while someone is trying to save you is better than neglect. Soon she had Emergency abdominal aortic aneurysm surgery. Last week she had a pacemaker implanted and as we speak she’s in surgery having a pin put in her hip. If you and your wife aren’t able to advocate well for yourself perhaps if you have children a neighbor or close friend who could go with you and advocate for you. I believe you said you couldn’t sit or stand so tell 911 and the ambulance staff you’re on the floor and you can’t get up.
Best of luck & Blessings to you & yours,
Jake

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@okwrangler

i will call social services tomorrow.  I will let you know what they say.
My wife does everything she can to help me.  Sometimes I feel like she does more than should be expected.  We have been married 54 years.
Thank you.

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@okwrangler you are very blessed to have such a supportive wife! When you call social services, be sure to call the office in your town, not the state. If they give you the answer to call 911, then call ! They have people who can help you up and then take you to the hospital. @jakedduck1 is very experienced in asking for their help! Slowly but surely, you are moving ahead; being an advocate for yourself.
Also Medicaid provides health insurance which you may need as you go forward.
Will you keep us informed as you work through the system??

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@jakedduck1

@okwrangler
So why not call 911? When you get to the hospital ask to talk to a Social Worker. Whenever I needed assistance in the hospital and asked to see one they came. I don’t think calling 911 is unreasonable because it seems obvious that you are in need of medical care. Tell the doctor at the Emergency Room all that you've been through. Have you ever been told by a surgeon that there was no surgery that could benefit you? All too often in the medical world doctors don’t want to do surgery on older patients, for example I have a 101 year-old friend and was she was originally told she was to old for surgery. Her daughter said “so your just going to let her die? Dying during surgery while someone is trying to save you is better than neglect. Soon she had Emergency abdominal aortic aneurysm surgery. Last week she had a pacemaker implanted and as we speak she’s in surgery having a pin put in her hip. If you and your wife aren’t able to advocate well for yourself perhaps if you have children a neighbor or close friend who could go with you and advocate for you. I believe you said you couldn’t sit or stand so tell 911 and the ambulance staff you’re on the floor and you can’t get up.
Best of luck & Blessings to you & yours,
Jake

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In my area,9-1-1 does not go to a hospital, it goes to a call center where they decide on whether or not to refer it to the sheriff's office. I just do not want the sheriff involved.
Yes, I have been told that I am too old for surgery. The VA told me that they do not like to work on anyone over 65..
Thank you.

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@becsbuddy

@okwrangler you are very blessed to have such a supportive wife! When you call social services, be sure to call the office in your town, not the state. If they give you the answer to call 911, then call ! They have people who can help you up and then take you to the hospital. @jakedduck1 is very experienced in asking for their help! Slowly but surely, you are moving ahead; being an advocate for yourself.
Also Medicaid provides health insurance which you may need as you go forward.
Will you keep us informed as you work through the system??

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Yes, I am. She has stuck by me through all the bad times. I am truly very lucky.
Okay, here is what happened. I called the Garfield County Social Services. I live in Garfield County. I got a recording which said that I
was suppose to call another number. I called the second number where I got another recording and was put on hold foe thirty minutes. That is where I talked to the guy that told me that told me to call 9-1-1. This is the kind of run around that I have got for twenty years. .You see, there is one thing that I am kind of scared of - What happens if an ambulance takes me to the hospital, but will o bring me bacl home

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As a last resort, I agree with Jake's suggestion - just do it on a weekday morning, not on a holiday, in the evening or on a weekend. ER's are overwhelmed at those times and you may not get a fair shot. And more Social Workers are on staff days and early evenings.
Make sure they understand you are not just looking for narcotic painkillers - That will turn them off pdq!
Sue

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@okwrangler

In my area,9-1-1 does not go to a hospital, it goes to a call center where they decide on whether or not to refer it to the sheriff's office. I just do not want the sheriff involved.
Yes, I have been told that I am too old for surgery. The VA told me that they do not like to work on anyone over 65..
Thank you.

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@okwrangler. Hello, Wrangler. We're hearing a lot of "yes, BUT..." in your response to our suggestions. You are desperate for help right now, and you simply must take a positive stand toward assistance. If calls to 911 go to a call centre in your area and they then make the decision to involve the sheriff (or take you by ambulance to hospital?), why do you fear getting the sheriff involved? Surely, even if the sheriff was involved you would ultimately get the help you so desperately need. It seems, because you've contacted VA, you are a veteran? There must be someone there to advocate for you?
Don't give up, Wrangler. With a handle like that, you must have been a tough brave soul. Dig deep. Find your Inner Wrangler again. Call 911 today.

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@okwrangler

Yes, I am. She has stuck by me through all the bad times. I am truly very lucky.
Okay, here is what happened. I called the Garfield County Social Services. I live in Garfield County. I got a recording which said that I
was suppose to call another number. I called the second number where I got another recording and was put on hold foe thirty minutes. That is where I talked to the guy that told me that told me to call 9-1-1. This is the kind of run around that I have got for twenty years. .You see, there is one thing that I am kind of scared of - What happens if an ambulance takes me to the hospital, but will o bring me bacl home

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@okwrangler. I'm 86 years old, and the doctors tell me because of my serious health issues, I'm not able to have surgery anymore. Not even a colonoscopy, which I desperately need right now to sort out my IBS. OK, I accept that. It is what it is. I still get excellent care from all SEVEN of my specialists. (One for almost every part of my body because I have so many serious conditions.) To get along with the medical world, it's necessary to be pleasant and easy to get along with. No whining, no complaints about the system, maybe try medication for a while, (it sometimes makes us all crazy but sometimes it's very necessary), etc. It's important to listen to a doctor's ideas for your case, to try their ideas rather than "leaving the hospital because you thought you were in the stroke therapy department" or whatever it was you told us initially. You finally got admitted to hospital and you left! There are social workers, physiotherapists, dieticians - all sorts of experts in a hospital. Request to see them when you're in the hospital. If you go by ambulance, they will be aware of your lack of mobility. They can't desert you, and would need to ambulance you back home if you're not admitted. That's what happens with me, either an ambulance or "medi-vac", and both are equipped with stretchers. @jakedduck1 has good advice for you, too. You gotta grab the cat by the tail, Wrangler!

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@okwrangler
Your obviously more familiar with your 911 system than I am but why not call 911 anyway. Don't make assumptions they wont come and help you. Give them a chance. I believe all 911 calls go to a call center but if a person calls and says they need the police the police show up at least that’s been my experience and the same with sheriffs, ambulances & fire personnel.
If an ambulance fails to come could you make it to an emergency room? Do you have a primary care physician? Do you know anyone in the medical field? They may have contact information to get you some help. What state are you in?
Jake

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@artist01

@okwrangler. Hello, Wrangler. We're hearing a lot of "yes, BUT..." in your response to our suggestions. You are desperate for help right now, and you simply must take a positive stand toward assistance. If calls to 911 go to a call centre in your area and they then make the decision to involve the sheriff (or take you by ambulance to hospital?), why do you fear getting the sheriff involved? Surely, even if the sheriff was involved you would ultimately get the help you so desperately need. It seems, because you've contacted VA, you are a veteran? There must be someone there to advocate for you?
Don't give up, Wrangler. With a handle like that, you must have been a tough brave soul. Dig deep. Find your Inner Wrangler again. Call 911 today.

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I have found the VA to be completely worthless.  And if anyone is interested, I will tell you the story.  Bottom line, it took me 47 years to even be registered as a veteran.I have never been one to ask for help or accept help, and whenever I have asked for help,it has not turned out well for me.  If you want stories, just ask..

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