Grover's Disease: What works to help find relief?
I have been diagnosed with Grover's disease under my breasts. I had a biopsy for diagnosis. Tried topical ointment with no really good results. Any ideas?
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What does the doctor do to diagnose you. I believe I have Grovers.
@mburg2 - I think the doctor takes a small biopsy of your skin in the affected area. Here's what the National Organization for Rare Disorders says - "Grover's disease is a rare, transient skin disorder that consists of small, firm, raised red lesions, most often on the skin of the chest and back. Diagnosis of this disorder becomes apparent under microscopic examination when the loss of the “cement” that holds the skin cells together is observed." -- Grover's Disease: https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/grovers-disease/
Have you discussed it with your doctor?
Yes. He mentioned Grovers as a last thought when I went to him twice about extremely itchy skin on my back with a few little dots. He said he could not diagnose at that time because it had cleared up by the time I went. He also said that mostly men get diagnosed with Grovers. My back is now itchy for a third time but just a few dots. I can’t imagine the itch you all feel with a large amount of dots.
Biopsy's aren't accurate if you are in remission or if your symptom's are going dormant, My biopsy was negative and my symptom's were classic GD.
I believe much of the information about GD is outdated. I know of 2 other women with GD personally and no men that have it. Women from my area are outdoors and in the sun from an early age and I do believe sun exposure can be a cause. I also find it hard to believe that GD is rare. There are certainly lots of folks blogging about it on this site and others.
I think many are undiagnosed and live with it for years like I did. For 4 years I was told I had heat rash or it was a different form of eczema. I went to 3 different derms before one took one look and identified it immediately.
Glad your are at this site. If your symptom's worsen or return (most of us go through cycles) read this blog from mid Feb 2019 and pay attention to the Kimass1 posting. Because of her research many, like myself, are free of GD today. So little is know about GD no doctor was able to prescribe any treatment to help. I've been clear for almost 2 years now.
Thus far, I’ve been applying 40% zinc oxide both morning and night, as well as incorporating a half bunch of cilantro into my smoothies as instructed. I had to tweak my smoothie recipe a bit and use a more potent juice, or else the cilantro overpowers everything and it tastes like I’m just drinking salsa.
I found out very quickly why there are people who claim the zinc oxide cleared their GD “overnight.” It’s very difficult to remove. Not sure if 20% would be easier, but I went with maximum strength in hopes that it’ll be most effective.
I had to abandon my “no soap” theory. Heck, even after soaping up, there’s usually still some residue leftover. It masks a lot of the redness, which I’m sure can understandably be misleading. However, despite this, I do feel like I’m seeing a slow improvement since starting several days ago. Whether it’s the cilantro or the zinc, I’m not entirely sure. The zinc definitely isn’t something I’d want to use forever, but am totally fine with using it regularly for the next few months. While it doesn’t completely kill the sweating and heat, it does help keep things under control - especially at night since I sleep on my stomach.
My very first scab that surfaced seems to be shrinking, but clearly am not quite confident enough yet to say that the GD is in remission. I do have high hopes though and will post after one month 🙂
I had a “punch biopsy”.
You continue to amaze me. You have my utmost respect. You are a gift to all those who suffer.
Spot on. (No pun intended, Lol).
Fortunately my GP who recognised the symptoms early and followed up with a biopsy to confirm, also believes that GD is not as rare as is generally mentioned in some quarters.
The Dermatologist I was referred to had, in my opinion, very little understanding of GD and I left with the usual prescription for Corticosteroid cream and a bunch of antihistamines which my Pharmacist could have prescribed.
Very funny comment. At least you found a dermatologist that could even recognize it, may of us are simply told it is eczema and not given a specific name of our type. Giving it a name is a must for you to research and study. None of the doctors help us because there are no know treatments that help most of us. I say that a few say steroids help, but not so in my case. Plus steroids are simply a treatment which is temporary with side effects if used long term and not a solution. I was so hopeful with every prescription for topicals given me and was diligent in application and none of them helped me. My GD had a regular cyclical pattern after my first outbreak of 1 year so at least I got a break with my 6 months active and 6 months dormant. The scabs didn't all fall off even with 6 months of dormancy, but the itching and pain were lessened.
So far as I can tell after a brief search, and assuming everyone is seeing the pages on this forum the same way I do, @kimass1 first appears on page 10 on February 27th of 2019 if people like me who just joined the conversation recently wish to go back and read her posts. I certainly will when I have a bit more time. Thanks again, @gardeningjunkie !