Again, I do not want to parse our e-mails nor do I want to be angry with you. My light apology did not work so here is a direct one. I am sorry I offended you. You can either stay angry with me or accept it. Along with your opinion that choice is yours
Best always,
s!
Scott Jensen
Again, I do not want to parse our e-mails nor do I want to be angry with you. My light apology did not work so here is a direct one. I am sorry I offended you. You can either stay angry with me or accept it. Along with your opinion that choice is yours
Best always,
s!
Scott Jensen
Dear @scottij, what statement above projects anger? We all have a right to state our opinions, and I understand what you said about the vaccination. Your opinion is important, and no-one is angry. I appreciate the valid feedback. Also, thank-you for adding a new word to my vocabulary, "parse." I have never heard that word before today! Cool!
Hi All, This is such a challenging situation. I am very saddened that people are getting ill regardless of how. I send my best healing thoughts and prayers to all!!! I still really don't have an answer to my first question. I am figuring it is because we really don't know. Do you think that is the only answer right now? If you feel you do know, I would love to hear about it. Thanks for all of your help and responses to my question. They are greatly appreciated. Here's the question again. Do the Moderna, J&J/J and the Pfizer vaccines all prevent people vaccinated from spreading COVID19?
Hi Lyoness, below, I posted an excerpt from the latest CDC posting on May 27, 2021. It looks like nothing definitive yet as data is still being collected. This will take time and is ongoing.
“A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. Studies are underway to learn more about the benefits of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen vaccine. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus.”
Hi All, This is such a challenging situation. I am very saddened that people are getting ill regardless of how. I send my best healing thoughts and prayers to all!!! I still really don't have an answer to my first question. I am figuring it is because we really don't know. Do you think that is the only answer right now? If you feel you do know, I would love to hear about it. Thanks for all of your help and responses to my question. They are greatly appreciated. Here's the question again. Do the Moderna, J&J/J and the Pfizer vaccines all prevent people vaccinated from spreading COVID19?
I would like to point to the dramatically declining in the number of infections and hospitalizations in highly vaccinated areas compared to those where fewer are vaccinated. For example in Minnesota counties with a vaccination rate of 75% are seeing 0 to 15/10,000 new cases per week - even heavily urban areas. Counties with vaccination rates around 50% are seeing case rates around 25-35/10,000 weekly
All county infection rates are down dramatically since vaccination rates ramped up, and hospitaliztions, ICU admits and deaths are all down dramatically even though the state is "fully open" for nearly a month, and mask mandates are dropped.
CDC Summary data shows similar declines across the board. See covid.cdc.gov for details.
I believe the data clearly shows the efficacy of the vaccine in limiting the spread of Covid, and also the severity of the virus in immunized people.
Sue
I noticed you received a very tense passive aggressive response to saying the vaccine needs to be looked at closer. Ill relate to you this....my daughter went for a tetnus shot in 20011 and got tetnus. The shot was hot. It means it accidently did have live virus. So i just want to thank you for the heads up. Ive had tetnus shots before all my kids have and even she had before after that one shot she never could have it again. So i believe u when you say that it happened and that its been happening. It might have gone completely unnoticed or been recalled and no one wanted to be held accountable. Im sorry for your misfortune and please continue to use your voice no matter how much mayo clinic seems to want to shut you up. Id ask for your lot number and check w the pharmacy if there was a recall. My son got bad albuterol once. Crap was inert. Pharmacy never told us until i complained. Then it was oh yeah that was recalled. I no longer have any respect for this website after scott j's comments. That behavior is just really foul and unworthy of such a great clinic.im unsubscribing.
I noticed you received a very tense passive aggressive response to saying the vaccine needs to be looked at closer. Ill relate to you this....my daughter went for a tetnus shot in 20011 and got tetnus. The shot was hot. It means it accidently did have live virus. So i just want to thank you for the heads up. Ive had tetnus shots before all my kids have and even she had before after that one shot she never could have it again. So i believe u when you say that it happened and that its been happening. It might have gone completely unnoticed or been recalled and no one wanted to be held accountable. Im sorry for your misfortune and please continue to use your voice no matter how much mayo clinic seems to want to shut you up. Id ask for your lot number and check w the pharmacy if there was a recall. My son got bad albuterol once. Crap was inert. Pharmacy never told us until i complained. Then it was oh yeah that was recalled. I no longer have any respect for this website after scott j's comments. That behavior is just really foul and unworthy of such a great clinic.im unsubscribing.
Dear @umhiguys, Thank-you for the positivity, it is appreciated. Please do not unsubscribe because of yesterdays comments. Scott has a right to believe whatever he wants. As for your daughter and the Tetanus shot, that is very scary. I hope she came through that ordeal well and fine (as could be!). They say there is no such thing as a coincidence, and "mistakes" happen. For the technician to relate her concern about people developing Covid after being vaccinated was frightening. And you are so right, anything can happen inside the lab where the vaccines are developed. Also, I was tested the second time at the ER, (and admitted to hospital) because I was so ill. How many vaccinated people may have had Covid mildly, and did not get tested? Again, thank-you. You made my day!
@thomason Please be careful with applying your personal experience and rumors to the general population. Just because you feel it happened to you and you heard about others with the same experience which then validates your feelings, does not mean it is happening to the general population. I am sorry for your condition and wish you well but we do not know what happened to you. The coincidence of events is not enough evidence for definitive conclusions.
@scottij On the contrary, such "personal experience" may well be useful or applicable for the general public. There is a lot we do not know about these vaccines. The more we hear about them, the better. In my case, I had a very bad reaction from dose 2 of Pfizer (over 2 months ago) and it is still there. Has seriously impacted my life. I do not hesitate to report that to anyone or everyone.
Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Jun 7, 2021
Mayo Clinic has published a central COVID-19 website that is updated daily with the latest, evidence-based information.
- Mayo Clinic: COVID-19 https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19
You’re considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
The only exception concerns fully vaccinated people who have an underlying medical condition or are taking medications that weaken the immune system. If you fit this description, talk to your doctor about your activities. He or she might recommend that you continue to take extra steps to prevent getting COVID-19.
"The basic idea here in these interim recommendations is that that fully vaccinated people have a very, very small risk of transmitting the virus to somebody else," says Dr. Poland. The CDC says that everyone — including those who have been vaccinated for COVID-19 — should continue wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, as well as continue other mitigation strategies when in public settings.
For further evidence-based vaccine guidance and up-to-date COVID information, including about the vaccines, see Mayo Clinic's COVID website: https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19
Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Jun 7, 2021
Friendly reminder about the Community Guidelines on Mayo Clinic Connect, especially guidelines 1 and 2:
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- Sharing your own experience is fine, but don't tell other members what they should do.
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Again, I do not want to parse our e-mails nor do I want to be angry with you. My light apology did not work so here is a direct one. I am sorry I offended you. You can either stay angry with me or accept it. Along with your opinion that choice is yours
Best always,
s!
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1 ReactionDear @scottij, what statement above projects anger? We all have a right to state our opinions, and I understand what you said about the vaccination. Your opinion is important, and no-one is angry. I appreciate the valid feedback. Also, thank-you for adding a new word to my vocabulary, "parse." I have never heard that word before today! Cool!
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2 ReactionsHi Lyoness, below, I posted an excerpt from the latest CDC posting on May 27, 2021. It looks like nothing definitive yet as data is still being collected. This will take time and is ongoing.
“A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. Studies are underway to learn more about the benefits of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen vaccine. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus.”
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2 ReactionsI would like to point to the dramatically declining in the number of infections and hospitalizations in highly vaccinated areas compared to those where fewer are vaccinated. For example in Minnesota counties with a vaccination rate of 75% are seeing 0 to 15/10,000 new cases per week - even heavily urban areas. Counties with vaccination rates around 50% are seeing case rates around 25-35/10,000 weekly
All county infection rates are down dramatically since vaccination rates ramped up, and hospitaliztions, ICU admits and deaths are all down dramatically even though the state is "fully open" for nearly a month, and mask mandates are dropped.
CDC Summary data shows similar declines across the board. See covid.cdc.gov for details.
I believe the data clearly shows the efficacy of the vaccine in limiting the spread of Covid, and also the severity of the virus in immunized people.
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4 ReactionsI noticed you received a very tense passive aggressive response to saying the vaccine needs to be looked at closer. Ill relate to you this....my daughter went for a tetnus shot in 20011 and got tetnus. The shot was hot. It means it accidently did have live virus. So i just want to thank you for the heads up. Ive had tetnus shots before all my kids have and even she had before after that one shot she never could have it again. So i believe u when you say that it happened and that its been happening. It might have gone completely unnoticed or been recalled and no one wanted to be held accountable. Im sorry for your misfortune and please continue to use your voice no matter how much mayo clinic seems to want to shut you up. Id ask for your lot number and check w the pharmacy if there was a recall. My son got bad albuterol once. Crap was inert. Pharmacy never told us until i complained. Then it was oh yeah that was recalled. I no longer have any respect for this website after scott j's comments. That behavior is just really foul and unworthy of such a great clinic.im unsubscribing.
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3 ReactionsDear @umhiguys, Thank-you for the positivity, it is appreciated. Please do not unsubscribe because of yesterdays comments. Scott has a right to believe whatever he wants. As for your daughter and the Tetanus shot, that is very scary. I hope she came through that ordeal well and fine (as could be!). They say there is no such thing as a coincidence, and "mistakes" happen. For the technician to relate her concern about people developing Covid after being vaccinated was frightening. And you are so right, anything can happen inside the lab where the vaccines are developed. Also, I was tested the second time at the ER, (and admitted to hospital) because I was so ill. How many vaccinated people may have had Covid mildly, and did not get tested? Again, thank-you. You made my day!
@scottij On the contrary, such "personal experience" may well be useful or applicable for the general public. There is a lot we do not know about these vaccines. The more we hear about them, the better. In my case, I had a very bad reaction from dose 2 of Pfizer (over 2 months ago) and it is still there. Has seriously impacted my life. I do not hesitate to report that to anyone or everyone.
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5 ReactionsMayo Clinic has published a central COVID-19 website that is updated daily with the latest, evidence-based information.
- Mayo Clinic: COVID-19 https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19
You’re considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
The only exception concerns fully vaccinated people who have an underlying medical condition or are taking medications that weaken the immune system. If you fit this description, talk to your doctor about your activities. He or she might recommend that you continue to take extra steps to prevent getting COVID-19.
"The basic idea here in these interim recommendations is that that fully vaccinated people have a very, very small risk of transmitting the virus to somebody else," says Dr. Poland. The CDC says that everyone — including those who have been vaccinated for COVID-19 — should continue wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, as well as continue other mitigation strategies when in public settings.
For further evidence-based vaccine guidance and up-to-date COVID information, including about the vaccines, see Mayo Clinic's COVID website: https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19
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3 ReactionsFriendly reminder about the Community Guidelines on Mayo Clinic Connect, especially guidelines 1 and 2:
1. Be careful about giving out medical advice
- Sharing your own experience is fine, but don't tell other members what they should do.
2. Remain respectful at all times.
- Exercise tolerance and respect toward other participants whose views may differ from your own. Disagreements are fine, but mutual respect is a must.
- Realize that sarcasm and joking will often be misunderstood.
- Personal attacks against members or health care providers are not acceptable. Such posts will be removed.
See the full Community Guidelines here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/
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4 ReactionsNo, they do not stop the spreading of the Covid 19 virus in vaccinated people. Vaxed people can still spread the virus.
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