When things just don't get better

Posted by daphne47 @daphne47, Dec 30, 2020

I have depression and anxiety that stem from ptsd, abuse/neglect. I've fought my entire life for my sanity, making good steps with my mental health. Then boom, chronic illness. Fought this too. But I haven't had much relief or answers for 15 years. I'm burnt out pretty good right now and really hopeless. Not sure if my situation can change. Just feel I'm losing myself. I take medication and see a great therapist. This is not just a one time low...just tired of fighting for nothing. Can anyone relate? I'm not trying to get anyone down, everyone's situation is different, I guess I just want to express myself cause I don't have a lot of people to say this to. I understand accepting things, but it just seems like my life is stuck, whatever I do. I'm not afraid to live with disabilities, but, physically, my body is kicking my own arse. Feeling alone, defeated, and defective.

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@gingerw

@lacy2 It is cathartic to the soul to share in a non-threatening environment. We each have our stories, and being here on Mayo Clinic connect, we learn we are not alone, even if our individual circumstances may not be exactly the same as someone else. There is a release that happens inside of us when we know that others are [virtually] patting us on the shoulder, or giving us a hug of support, don't you agree?

I hope today goes well for you.
Ginger

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...again, thanks. Yes I agree, the responses to mine/our posts are valuable... others are so understanding. I feel sometimes my 3 member family are just worn out hearing about things they cannot change or ? Each have listened over the past and ended up nicely saying: "I don't know what to say any more"..... and I don't blame them. I am an open book with my life and my health and not everyone is the same, I understand, e.g. my spouse doesnt want to discuss his illness/recent surgery unless absolutely has to... but as well as talking about my issues I have always tried to comfort or share knowledge if someone else talks about theirs.....am noticing my crying jags and worst parts of the day are around 10am to about 4pm, not every day but quite often and so wondering if side effect of a medication... as tears are not usually shed per the clock?? Thank you for caring......

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Lacy2, I have discovered that the world seems to be 50/50 on discussion of illness! I like you discuss some of my illness and my short comings, while others do not feel comfortable doing it. I don't know if they feel they have to hide from it? I would be interested in hearing what others have to say!
Suncance(RB)

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@gingerw

@lacy2 It is cathartic to the soul to share in a non-threatening environment. We each have our stories, and being here on Mayo Clinic connect, we learn we are not alone, even if our individual circumstances may not be exactly the same as someone else. There is a release that happens inside of us when we know that others are [virtually] patting us on the shoulder, or giving us a hug of support, don't you agree?

I hope today goes well for you.
Ginger

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Ginger that is so True! It perfectly explains MayoConect!
Sundance(RB)

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@lacy2

...just another (short) hi.... and wanted to say that apart from my lengthy "history" of quite a few things, my current problems, if I had to concentrate on those and not memories of all the others: depression/anxiety; bowel issues increasing pressure and pain; I forgot tinnitus pressure and pain; and the eye issues. It's odd that I feel I have to list everything... instead of the main ones. it's a wonder I didnt include when I hurt myself falling off my tricycle when I was five.... !! I think I have a need to explain or prove "why" I feel like I do and what led up to it...am sure there's a psychological reason for that! anyway, thank you again for being so nice and I feel like reading every single post from every single person, as everyone has their "cross" to bear. I worked with a lady from Italian background years ago and she said they had a saying, translated that if everyone went to the village square and laid down their "cross" each had to carry/live with... and they could pick up anyone else's cross ...... they would ALL pick up their own cross as they left. Not sure if I have this exactly right but I remember her telling me this many years ago. J.S.

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J.C., What you say has so much Validity to it! I feel for others who aren't able to discuss how they feel! For those of us who have been in Group Therepy and Group Sessions, you sometimes feel inhibited to say what's going on inside of you because of the fear of looks, comments, and chastation of what you say!
It has always seemed to me that the people on Conect are SPECIAL PEOPLE! They tell their story to others who are kind and understanding! who have been down a similiar path!
When you PRESS the little "heart" saying you "LIKE" what they just said, you give that person a little bit of confidence that maybe helps them to feel good about themselves, because maybe that day they were told they were "Worthless" they are!
It's just a little bit of Gratitude that we all need!
Sundance(RB)

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@jesfactsmon

@lacy2
Don't be hard on yourself for needing to write your many details here. You've had a JOURNEY! And like others on Connect who have had their own journeys, each one is a story that can't be told in just a few sentences. In reading this post I was particularly struck by the experience of having your caregiver, your husband, having his own medical situation happen and suddenly you are put in a position of trying to care for yourself and possibly him as well to an extent. Sounds similar to another Connect member, Renee, @faithwalker who is very ill and housebound and very confined to her chair, and who's husband, her caregiver, having such bad health issues himself that the roles occasionally have to be reversed. I worry about that myself. I care for my wife, and so far I am in good shape health wise, but one never knows what the future may hold. It gives one pause! I appreciate how difficult all that you have been through in your life has been for you. You have both my compassion as well as my admiration. You are a trooper, whether by choice or by necessity, much like many others here, and my mind is boggled regularly by what I read here sometimes. I hope you manage to be one of the survivors, i.e. do not need to resort to prematurely ending your life. But not being in your shoes I can only support whatever you decide to do. I just know that life, all life, has ups and downs, and if you are in a "down" there will inevitably be an eventual "up". Very best to you dear, Hank

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Hank, we are in the minority on Conect as being two of only a few males to read and express there feelings. Most men do not like to open up. But I have learned it is so important for men to do!
Have a Great rest of the Weekend and next 11 days I guess! Everything will work out as it's supposed to!
Sundance(RB)

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@sundance6

Hank, we are in the minority on Conect as being two of only a few males to read and express there feelings. Most men do not like to open up. But I have learned it is so important for men to do!
Have a Great rest of the Weekend and next 11 days I guess! Everything will work out as it's supposed to!
Sundance(RB)

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@sundance6
Richard, I have always liked being open about things that have happened to me and my feelings about them. I am always a little surprised when someone says "Thank-you for being so open about yourself" because I can't ever figure out why someone wouldn't be. I don't feel responsible for all that has happened to me, it just happened. So why not talk about it? Even the mistakes I made are fair game to me. So I made mistakes, that doesn't make me "bad", rather I guess it just makes me human, right? Best, Hank

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....yes we all express our hurts/thoughts differently... my spouse was raised with brother one sister and his parents were outdoorsy type and parents raised them how they were raised and although am sure they were loved the dad was stern and mother followed his lead; my parents worked (in uk) and as only girl if I fell and hurt my knee, it was a kiss to make better type thing. Also when I was about 4 my brother accidentally cut my neck (true) and apparently I almost died... so I was spoiled but not with money more like when parents home mum left the housework and the four of us (including brother) played card games, darts, etc. (Trying to keep this short) So even now my spouse keeps a lot to himself, especially pain and not feeling well - even tho just had open heart surgery and Hemothorax .... so its foreign for him to discuss it all; whereas I have not such life threatening issues but things that hurt or make me feel weird, plus depression/anxiety.
So am not sure if its how we are raised or the fact a person has anxiety and depression which makes everything seem so much worse. I was not in the country when my parents became ill and died, nor my brother, therefore my girls now adults have not been around a sick/ill adult so therefore I am the first and they really arent sure what to do. One wants to be positive and encourages happiness but not keep talking about my issues (which I understand).. the other will come over if she knows I am having a bad day, for a chat....but who knows how long that will last. My spouse is their step father by the way. Anyway.... rambling on, but I am glad I can express my feelings here, even if they are negative, and get feedback, or not, because I am not the typical ex-Brit with the "stiff upper lip." Thank you.

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@jesfactsmon

@sundance6
Richard, I have always liked being open about things that have happened to me and my feelings about them. I am always a little surprised when someone says "Thank-you for being so open about yourself" because I can't ever figure out why someone wouldn't be. I don't feel responsible for all that has happened to me, it just happened. So why not talk about it? Even the mistakes I made are fair game to me. So I made mistakes, that doesn't make me "bad", rather I guess it just makes me human, right? Best, Hank

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Hank So True! My family, my Wife and daughter don't believe in talking about insucurities, helath problems and refuse to acknowledge that anyone has an opinion other than theirs! That's why I live 200 miles away from them.
They started last night and again today when I said I had a horrible feeling day yesterday! I was in a brain fog, had a headache, was dizzy with very little balance and they went back to the fact that I take medications that are giving me those problems!
This is after I have told them over and over again that my PCP knows what I take and any reactions may occur!
They refuse to read anything about either Lyme or Fibromyalgia! They have not changed that thought for two years, I have asked both to come to one of my doctors appointments but they refuse!
Both are Narsistic Alcoholics! I feel sorry for my grandson having to live with them! But many have been teeling me I need to take care of myself!
Sorry for Whinning this morning! I know many out there face the same family issues I have!
Just wannted to unload! I think it Helped!
Many Thanks,
Sundance(RB)

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@sundance6

Hank So True! My family, my Wife and daughter don't believe in talking about insucurities, helath problems and refuse to acknowledge that anyone has an opinion other than theirs! That's why I live 200 miles away from them.
They started last night and again today when I said I had a horrible feeling day yesterday! I was in a brain fog, had a headache, was dizzy with very little balance and they went back to the fact that I take medications that are giving me those problems!
This is after I have told them over and over again that my PCP knows what I take and any reactions may occur!
They refuse to read anything about either Lyme or Fibromyalgia! They have not changed that thought for two years, I have asked both to come to one of my doctors appointments but they refuse!
Both are Narsistic Alcoholics! I feel sorry for my grandson having to live with them! But many have been teeling me I need to take care of myself!
Sorry for Whinning this morning! I know many out there face the same family issues I have!
Just wannted to unload! I think it Helped!
Many Thanks,
Sundance(RB)

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Sorry maybe as a newbie on here I shouldnt comment, but I feel for you Sundance... and I dont consider it whining.... and am sure if someone mentions their medical condition to you , that you acknowledge and even maybe make suggestions: I think, because I like to help - even verbally - when someone has a problem medical or otherwise, I think others - relatives or not - might do the same for me, but the realization as you explain is that it doesn't work that way. Sometimes, though, I just want a hug or "hope you feel better soon" - I don't expect a cure from them. Sometimes, and certainly not wishing it on anyone, it takes an illness to happen to someone for them to understand what others are going through...? As I say I have one daughter who I can count on and the other, well, she thinks if I go back on antidepressant I will cope with physical illness...whereas I say if I can get help with physical illness and pain I wouldn't be depressed! So no simple solution.... so nice you can come to this venue and express how this makes you feel, and am wishing you the best and that you have or will meet some more sympathetic friends.... J.S. (Ontario)

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