Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation Therapy: What's your experience?

Posted by clutch @clutch, Jun 3, 2020

Just started my Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation Therapy (TMS). Would like to hear from others who have had this experience. Thanks!

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@colleenyoung

Hi @clutch, here's an older discussion where members are talking about TMS that may interest you:
- Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) for long-term depression https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tms-therapy-for-long-term-depression/

I'd like to bring @jancer2017 @kimmym @stup @anndomico @callalily74 @callalily74 @klonbgone and others to this discussion to share their experiences with TMS.

@clutch, you mention that you've had 9 or 36 treatments. Have you noticed any improvement? What are the sessions like?

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@clutch Yes, would appreciate info on sessions, improvements, side effects, and is it covered by insurance (medicare)?

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@colleenyoung

Hi @clutch, here's an older discussion where members are talking about TMS that may interest you:
- Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) for long-term depression https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tms-therapy-for-long-term-depression/

I'd like to bring @jancer2017 @kimmym @stup @anndomico @callalily74 @callalily74 @klonbgone and others to this discussion to share their experiences with TMS.

@clutch, you mention that you've had 9 or 36 treatments. Have you noticed any improvement? What are the sessions like?

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@colleenyoung Was considering cranial massage as an option for my depression but the COVID stopped that for now. Would appreciate thoughts or feedback on this.

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@clutch, I just finished my 36th treatment of TMS a couple of days ago. Since I was/am also doing ketamine therapy in conjunction with TMS, it's hard to judge whether the TMS is helping me or it's the ketamine. My depression got so bad this year, I am trying everything possible. One thing is that I did receive ketamine at another clinic (more a ketamine mill, but that's a different story) for about 11 months. It helped initially, but after a couple of months, the ketamine did not help. Now that I've switched to a more comprehensive, caring clinic, as well as added TMS, I am doing better. I still have some difficult days but I do think the TMS has helped. (Fingers crossed). I went through some hopeful, better days around the second week of TMS, punctuated by some bad days. I still have not had my "exit session" with my doctor re: the TMS; that should happen this upcoming week and I can let you know what he says. At my clinic, if he deterines the 36 TMS treatments did not help, he will do more TMS treatments (not a full round, but a few more, in my understanding) and then re-assess. I am curious to know how your treatments are going. I've been told by my clinic that sometimes people do not show improvement until the very end--the majority improve during last 2/3 of therapy, although some feel it soon after they begin. I hope this helps. -Kelley

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I finished my 36 treatments and Medicare will not cover any more at this time. I would have tried the Ketamine but the clinic would not recommend it because I am currently on a small dose of Ativan. FFDA guidelines do recommend against treating patients on any dose of benzos. But if it wasn't for benzos I wouldn't get any quality sleep.
So you can see the predicament I'm left in. All conventional meds haven't worked either.

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@clutch

I finished my 36 treatments and Medicare will not cover any more at this time. I would have tried the Ketamine but the clinic would not recommend it because I am currently on a small dose of Ativan. FFDA guidelines do recommend against treating patients on any dose of benzos. But if it wasn't for benzos I wouldn't get any quality sleep.
So you can see the predicament I'm left in. All conventional meds haven't worked either.

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BTW @kelster69. thanks for your concern and reply

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@clutch

BTW @kelster69. thanks for your concern and reply

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@clutch of course. Depression is a horrible hell that many do not understand, so I want to share my experiences so we can all help one another. As far as the ketamine, I have been on .5-1.0 mg. of Klonopin for a long time, and both ketamine clinics I've gone to have not problem with that. I know there has been some research done on the interaction of benzos with ketamine, and how it can be a problem. But it's not widely proven. Perhaps you could seek out another ketamine clinic? One time I had a bad trip and the clinic even gave me ativan while I was there. I still don't know if my TMS worked; maybe it has? Hang in there. I know this is a very difficult journey and know someone is thinking about you.

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@kelster69, hopefully the combination of the therapies are going to help. Perhaps you may need a "maintenance" TMS" if it is helping. Let us know how it's going. Are you a private pay it insurance covered. I'm Medicare so I think clinic is overly cautious because of reimbursement. Also is your ketamine treatment by IV or esketamine spray?

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@clutch I am privileged in that my insurance covers TMS. But I pay out-of-pocket for intravenous ketamine. I know esketamine is covered under insurance. I got so desperate and suicidal I had to do what was most quickly available. I tell myself that it's better to be in debt than dead. I am still sorry your clinic is so overly cautious; I wish you had more freedom. Let's keep our fingers crossed that both of us can get what we need to function and not suffer so much. All the best, Kelley

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Is this ANYTHING like electro-shock therapy? Once a barbaric practice, it has gained a new popularity in the last 20 years or so, due to the the fact that electro-shock therapy is virtually painless because you're heavily sedated into unconsciousness before said therapy. I've never had it done, but I've read it actually helps people with schizophrenia.

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@mojosteve1961

Is this ANYTHING like electro-shock therapy? Once a barbaric practice, it has gained a new popularity in the last 20 years or so, due to the the fact that electro-shock therapy is virtually painless because you're heavily sedated into unconsciousness before said therapy. I've never had it done, but I've read it actually helps people with schizophrenia.

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I don’t know, but ECT did effect your short term memory.

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