Downsizing, To Move or Not to Move? That is the Question

Posted by Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor @rosemarya, Apr 12, 2020

At some point as we age, we will have to make a decision about leaving our homes and downsizing. Maybe in our own town or to another town. Maybe to smaller home, condo, apartment, or assisted living/senior community.

When the time comes to downsize, seniors can struggle with a multitude of emotional, physical, and financial challenges.

How do you make an informed decision about when to downsize?
What tips do you have to share?

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@Erinmfs

Old photos are so much fun. During the worst of Covid19 quarantining, I opened up Ancestry.com and uploaded photos and learned of my family, but this was an adventure for me, because of my adoption. I was adopted through a closed adoption. My birth name is Molly, I found my siblings at age 50, too late in life, I wish I'd known them sooner! They were looking for Molly. I'm thinking of changing my legal name to Molly, I love the name, I love knowing my 1/2 brothers and sisters. I'm blessed with 2 families.

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What a wonderful venture for you, @Erinmfs! And what a terrific bonus to have reconnected with your half brothers and sisters. Love this!!!

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@IndianaScott

Hi @fiesty76 I'm Scott and I spent a large part of my work career in nonprofits. I understand your frustration with so many direct mail solicitations.

Nonprofits that send trinkets, items, or sometimes a dime or nickel showing through the envelope work for those charities. Believe me, they watch those returns very closely to make sure they make them money. Some use outside, for profit companies to do those mailings where the for profit gets some portion of the contributions and the remainder goes to the nonprofit. And yes, far too many nonprofits make part of their money (sometimes significant amounts) by selling or 'renting' their donor and/or mailing lists to other nonprofits and sometimes to for profit companies, such as catalog retailers. Often times the disclaimer printed on the back of the materials will tell if they sell your name or not.

If you write a charity and request to be dropped from their list they should honor that, but those often 'get lost' in the internal systems they have. Also many will still keep you on a 'one ask a year' list! Always cheaper to keep a former donor than find a new one -- even if you were only a donor to the organization they bought your name from. I find if I send a letter to them asking for them to stop soliciting me they seem to honor those more than a phone call. Also, even though it is a waste of money, they will keep sending to you until a certain amount of time passes and you do not ever give. This timeframe varies by each charity.

I always tell family -- drop the guilt -- use the item they send like return address labels (I use them on bills), have note pads out the gazzoo I use for doodling, and the rest get recycled. It is their choice and they wouldn't do it if it didn't earn them money.

I hope the sun is shining in your neck of the woods today!

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Thank you for responding and posting what you did regarding unsolicited donations, @IndianaScott. While I've returned unopened packets to charities and called some requesting I be dropped from their mailing lists, I've not written them with my request. I will do that and appreciate the tip because the other ways tried did not work for me.

I do feel guilty that I simply can't donate to all but do also use the addr. labels and donate those "way-too-many-enclosed notepads".
Thx again for sharing your experience of working in nonprofits and how some closely track donor responses. New mantra for the day:
"Stop feeling guilty...Stop...." Thank you. Best to you for a sunny day today as well!

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@Erinmfs

Old photos are so much fun. During the worst of Covid19 quarantining, I opened up Ancestry.com and uploaded photos and learned of my family, but this was an adventure for me, because of my adoption. I was adopted through a closed adoption. My birth name is Molly, I found my siblings at age 50, too late in life, I wish I'd known them sooner! They were looking for Molly. I'm thinking of changing my legal name to Molly, I love the name, I love knowing my 1/2 brothers and sisters. I'm blessed with 2 families.

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What a gift through photos and Ancestry.com. A true blessing to be connected to your biological family as well as your adoptive family. Enjoy the spirit of “real connections”.

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@rosemarya

Due to a recent life changing episode in our family, we are learning that the terms like wheelchair accessible, handicapped accessible, and ADA are all interpreted differently. Before you make any decision I urge you to look into the state and local requirements.
Beware of apartments or rentals that were built before the ADA was implemented because the doorways are too narrow for wheelchairs.

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I'll add my two cents here too. Also watch for the 'little things' -- they may become insurmountable hurdles. At one point my wife could no longer walk into our accessible bathroom due to a 1/8" difference between the bedroom and bathroom floors. Also be sure you have turning radius room for the toilets, sinks, kitchen work areas, etc. I've seen too many layouts that expect you to back up in your wheelchair and not be able to turn around. Check the tile used in bathrooms for excessive slipperiness. Additionally make sure there is room for ramps to have safe inclines (listed on the ramps we used) and that they can stick out if you have a step into the house from the driveway or garage and not interfere with the car, etc. I'd also echo @rosemarya in wheelchair use! Try spaces out with YOUR chair! They can vary greatly and transfers between chairs for different areas, uses, etc. can get physically taxing very quickly.

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@gingerw

@sueinmn When we bought this house last year, a previous owner used a wheelchair. There is a permanent concrete ramp from driveway to front door. the back door has three steps down to back porch. The floors are all laminate wood, except for kitchen and bathrooms, which are tile. The original bathroom had a heavy duty grab bar for accessing the original tub and another grab bar in the toilet alcove. For me, it's perfect. This is our retirement home.
Ginger

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Funny Ginger - Last night in the bathroom, I realized that I forgot to mention that, 5 years ago when we remodeled the bath, we had numerous grab bars placed strategically throughout the room. Fortunately there are now many which can be matched to the other hardware. Even our towel bars are actually grab bars, and nobody realizes it except us.
Our floors are also all hardwood, ceramic or laminate except in 2 bedrooms - we did it years ago due to allergies, but it was a marvelous decision - with my stick vac I can clean the whole place in 20 minutes, and with the steam mop a full floor cleaning takes 30 minutes.

I am working up to suggesting replacing our 3-season porch with a main floor family room - which would be a complete teardown & replace, but I think very worthwhile - and would allow us to replace 3 random sheds with a proper storage underneath.

Sue

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@IndianaScott

Hi @fiesty76 I'm Scott and I spent a large part of my work career in nonprofits. I understand your frustration with so many direct mail solicitations.

Nonprofits that send trinkets, items, or sometimes a dime or nickel showing through the envelope work for those charities. Believe me, they watch those returns very closely to make sure they make them money. Some use outside, for profit companies to do those mailings where the for profit gets some portion of the contributions and the remainder goes to the nonprofit. And yes, far too many nonprofits make part of their money (sometimes significant amounts) by selling or 'renting' their donor and/or mailing lists to other nonprofits and sometimes to for profit companies, such as catalog retailers. Often times the disclaimer printed on the back of the materials will tell if they sell your name or not.

If you write a charity and request to be dropped from their list they should honor that, but those often 'get lost' in the internal systems they have. Also many will still keep you on a 'one ask a year' list! Always cheaper to keep a former donor than find a new one -- even if you were only a donor to the organization they bought your name from. I find if I send a letter to them asking for them to stop soliciting me they seem to honor those more than a phone call. Also, even though it is a waste of money, they will keep sending to you until a certain amount of time passes and you do not ever give. This timeframe varies by each charity.

I always tell family -- drop the guilt -- use the item they send like return address labels (I use them on bills), have note pads out the gazzoo I use for doodling, and the rest get recycled. It is their choice and they wouldn't do it if it didn't earn them money.

I hope the sun is shining in your neck of the woods today!

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I have tried on several occasions to have several charities drop my name from their mailing list, yet to no avail. Any other ideas? Thanks!

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@Erinmfs

Was your new home built for a wheelchair, or was it a retrofit? My house has 17 stairs in it. If I became physically disabled, it would be tough to maneuver the 17 stairs in it. I often think I should cut my losses on this home, and trade it in on a 1 level, ranch style. Or perhaps, find an apartment, I'm frustrated with all of the old home repairs!

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@Erinmfs The house was built in 1955. The doors and hallways are wide enough for a chair. The cemented ramp runs from the driveway straight to front door at a gentle incline. This made moving large furniture in easy! I am pretty sure this was a retrofit. The grab bars are old-time monsters. The third bedroom was made into an on-suite 2nd bathroom by previous owner to us, and the soaking tub/shower she installed can't be used by me. It is too high for me to step into with my knee issues, and the doorway is too narrow for crutches, cane or a chair. The tile floors are not smooth, and present no slipping issues.
Ginger

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@gingerw

@Erinmfs The house was built in 1955. The doors and hallways are wide enough for a chair. The cemented ramp runs from the driveway straight to front door at a gentle incline. This made moving large furniture in easy! I am pretty sure this was a retrofit. The grab bars are old-time monsters. The third bedroom was made into an on-suite 2nd bathroom by previous owner to us, and the soaking tub/shower she installed can't be used by me. It is too high for me to step into with my knee issues, and the doorway is too narrow for crutches, cane or a chair. The tile floors are not smooth, and present no slipping issues.
Ginger

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Hi Ginger,
When I did a total gut job in one bathroom I wanted a low rise tub, as I felt getting older I did not feel safe with the tall tub anymore.
KOHLER company makes such a low rise tub, and I had the plumber install it.
You can also get a walk in tub, it has a door, and you just walk into it. They are getting very popular.

What projects are you working on now?
Take care

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@fiesty76

Thank you for responding and posting what you did regarding unsolicited donations, @IndianaScott. While I've returned unopened packets to charities and called some requesting I be dropped from their mailing lists, I've not written them with my request. I will do that and appreciate the tip because the other ways tried did not work for me.

I do feel guilty that I simply can't donate to all but do also use the addr. labels and donate those "way-too-many-enclosed notepads".
Thx again for sharing your experience of working in nonprofits and how some closely track donor responses. New mantra for the day:
"Stop feeling guilty...Stop...." Thank you. Best to you for a sunny day today as well!

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Hi fiesty76,
You know what I do with all the solutations I get?
I rip them up, or put in shredder. I am generous to my favorite charities, but like you, I get too many also.
After awhile they stop, but that can take years.
Stay well,
Funcountess

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@gingerw

@Erinmfs The house was built in 1955. The doors and hallways are wide enough for a chair. The cemented ramp runs from the driveway straight to front door at a gentle incline. This made moving large furniture in easy! I am pretty sure this was a retrofit. The grab bars are old-time monsters. The third bedroom was made into an on-suite 2nd bathroom by previous owner to us, and the soaking tub/shower she installed can't be used by me. It is too high for me to step into with my knee issues, and the doorway is too narrow for crutches, cane or a chair. The tile floors are not smooth, and present no slipping issues.
Ginger

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Hi, Ginger. I planned to remove my tub/shower in the master bathroom to install a walk-in shower. I wasn't able to get it done before I got physically worse and unable to shower in that bath due to no grab bars or safety helps. So, I use the 2nd bath upstairs that I had fixed for my mother when she lived with me. Added grab bars, installed a rain shower, etc. I am able now to enjoy showering in that bath, safely. But, there was a time several months ago I couldn't get into the tub to shower. And, it's been years since I could take a bath in a tub! I can't get down into the water without danger!!!! And, God forbid I attempt to get up! It's a real dangerous situation. So, I now have a shower chair that I can use if/when I need to sit, getting weak or pain increases of whatever. I'll have the walk-in done in a few months, after I'm stronger and have more reno work done that's scheduled. Walk-in showers are lovely for those of us who shouldn't use bathtibs at all. Wish you well in this fun journey. Blessings. Elizabeth

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