Wondering if anyone has had an FOV, Floaters Only Vitrectomy

Posted by susan2018 @susan2018, Mar 6, 2019

I am wondering if anyone has had an FOV, Floaters Only Vitrectomy, and would be willing to share their experiences. For at least two years I was plagued with the constant irritating presence of gauzy, wispy, moving clumps that would obscure my vision and make reading and driving a tiring challenge. Prior to this I had had cataract surgery and a lens exchange surgery. Many, many follow up appointments and a second opinion did not pinpoint a reason for my continuing complaints. Although I did not complain of dry eyes, I was led to believe that was my issue and was treated with Xiidra and then Restasis and then even both at the same time, with no improvement in my symptoms. Finally a follow up appointment with a new ophthalmologist in the practice and my description of what I was seeing led to a diagnosis of a degenerating vitreous and a referral to a vitreal surgeon. Last week I had a vitrectomy to remove the vitreous. Despite the after effects of the surgery, the next day when the eye patch and bandages came off, I could immediately tell that my vision in that eye had cleared. It has been such a relief! I am hoping my recovery is uneventful and am now anticipating following up with the surgeon to schedule the procedure on my other eye. Has anyone experienced a situation similar to mine? Why would my problem not be recognized and diagnosed sooner? I have wondered if I simply was not able to describe my symptoms well enough or if ophthalmologists tend not to recognize or acknowledge how debilitating the condition can be. I understand that over time and with age the vitreous does degenerate for all people. Do only a few people experience what I did during that process or are there many people experiencing it’s deleterious effects on their vision and are just living with it, or as in my case, are not able to get a diagnosis from their eye care providers? I should add that I am in my early 70s and was extremely nearsighted my entire life. Anyone out there experience what I did?

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Ophthalmologists can’t see what we see. They like hard evidence of an issue, it’s hard for them to fully rely on subjective data, the patient report. My thought anyway. And even harder to justify surgery for something they can’t document by test or scan or observation. But my vitreoretinal specialist understood. Of course there are risks to surgery, for example, retinal detachment. Hence the need to trust your surgeon.

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I had a retinal tear In my left eye (position of the tear was at “10 o’clock“) in August 2018 and had flood of new floaters and it was very scary. At the time, I had retinal surgeon do successful cryosurgery with pneumatic bubble BUT severe floaters remained prevalent for over 3 months following surgery. Suddenly, at about 3 months post surgery, the floaters became much more tolerable and I could function fairly normally (but I could “find them” if I really looked for them). Unfortunately, that retinal cryosurgery quickened the development of a cataract in that left eye and I had to have a traditional catarectomy done on the eye in December 2019. Then, I had to have cryosurgery about 2 weeks later because of ANOTHER retinal tear in same place.

Since the cataract surgery and retinal surgery of Dec 2019, the floaters are MUCH WORSE. There is a “flag” that contains about 150 floater dots that continually passes through my field of vision. There are a number of other floaters like squiggly lines and small circles/dots and It’s especially hard to be confident driving and difficult seeing in general. Surgeons are willing, but not too enthused, to do the vitrectomy. I wonder if having the 2 retinal tears makes me a much higher risk?? What I read seems to tell me it’s only a little less successful for anyone who has had previous retinal tears (like 93 percent successful vs 95 percent). In summary, this “debris” in my vision is a mess and miserable but I sure don’t want the procedure to make it worse! Any insight is very much appreciated.

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@susan2018

@michaels777, @colleenyoung In fact, I had my second surgery in Edina MN last Tuesday, April 23. The first eye seems to have recovered nicely since the vitrectomy the end of February. All the blotchy moving gauzy blotches are gone from that eye, my “distance” eye, since I have vision correcting lens implants. I no longer fear that while driving they might float across my field of vision obscuring the road and traffic. Last week’s surgery was on my “near vision” eye, both a vitrectomy, removing the gel in the back of the eye, and an epiretinal membrane stripping from the retina. This membrane can form from seeding cells from a degenerating vitreous and can eventually cause distorted vision. So far so good on this one. I saw the surgeon the day after surgery, will again two weeks after, and then a month. The moving floaters in this eye had been particularly bothersome, causing effort with reading and it was immediately noticeable that they are gone. In place of the gel, a gas bubble is placed in the eye, which will dissipate naturally as my body replaces the space with clear fluid. The bubble is sitting down in my field of vision for reading so I am eagerly awaiting it being gone, about 1-2 weeks, if it goes like the first eye. I am on antibiotic and steroid drops and a weight restriction. The results of the vitrectomy surgery have been nothing short of a miracle, and I don’t use that word loosely. I do not understand why it took so long for my diagnosis. I went for two years plus with multiple ophthalmologist visits until a new opthalmologist referred me to a retinal specialist. After so many doctor visits and trying so many things with no relief, I almost didn’t make the effort to travel 150 miles to the retinal specialist office, not quite believing that there was an answer to my problem. Once I saw him, I proceeded quickly to surgery and now am so grateful for the help I got.

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Thank you for writing about this as I'm experiencing terrible floaters and blurring in one eye so only one eye is functioning. I've been to eye doctors 3times and Monday a different eye doctor but keep getting put off...told nothing to do. Eye surgery is discouraged. What do you suggest I should inquire or questions to ask? Thanks for your input.

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@marjou

Thank you for writing about this as I'm experiencing terrible floaters and blurring in one eye so only one eye is functioning. I've been to eye doctors 3times and Monday a different eye doctor but keep getting put off...told nothing to do. Eye surgery is discouraged. What do you suggest I should inquire or questions to ask? Thanks for your input.

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The first and most important thing is to get to a retinal specialist/surgeon. I was referred to one but had to travel to a large city. Even they can’t see what you’re seeing but should understand and certainly have the ability to safely perform the vitrectomy. As with any surgery, understand the risks (in this case a retinal detachment) but make sure the physician also understands your desperation. I had little luck getting my optometrist or ophthalmologist to understand my problem because I didn’t understand myself what was wrong and probably didn’t do a good job of explaining what I was experiencing. I’m not sure sure it’s helpful to just complain of floaters because what I saw was unlike any floaters I had had before. Like you, my vision was continually being obscured by moving clouds of debris from the deteriorating vitreous. It started in one eye but eventually involved both eyes. I think there was a time surgery was discouraged because the need depended on a patient’s subjective report of the problem as well as the accompanying potential risk of a detachment, perhaps especially more so in the past. I almost gave up finding help but am so glad I didn’t.

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@susan2018

The first and most important thing is to get to a retinal specialist/surgeon. I was referred to one but had to travel to a large city. Even they can’t see what you’re seeing but should understand and certainly have the ability to safely perform the vitrectomy. As with any surgery, understand the risks (in this case a retinal detachment) but make sure the physician also understands your desperation. I had little luck getting my optometrist or ophthalmologist to understand my problem because I didn’t understand myself what was wrong and probably didn’t do a good job of explaining what I was experiencing. I’m not sure sure it’s helpful to just complain of floaters because what I saw was unlike any floaters I had had before. Like you, my vision was continually being obscured by moving clouds of debris from the deteriorating vitreous. It started in one eye but eventually involved both eyes. I think there was a time surgery was discouraged because the need depended on a patient’s subjective report of the problem as well as the accompanying potential risk of a detachment, perhaps especially more so in the past. I almost gave up finding help but am so glad I didn’t.

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@susan2018 Thanks for your response as it is very helpful. I need to insist on getting referral to retinal specialist.

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@susan2018

The first and most important thing is to get to a retinal specialist/surgeon. I was referred to one but had to travel to a large city. Even they can’t see what you’re seeing but should understand and certainly have the ability to safely perform the vitrectomy. As with any surgery, understand the risks (in this case a retinal detachment) but make sure the physician also understands your desperation. I had little luck getting my optometrist or ophthalmologist to understand my problem because I didn’t understand myself what was wrong and probably didn’t do a good job of explaining what I was experiencing. I’m not sure sure it’s helpful to just complain of floaters because what I saw was unlike any floaters I had had before. Like you, my vision was continually being obscured by moving clouds of debris from the deteriorating vitreous. It started in one eye but eventually involved both eyes. I think there was a time surgery was discouraged because the need depended on a patient’s subjective report of the problem as well as the accompanying potential risk of a detachment, perhaps especially more so in the past. I almost gave up finding help but am so glad I didn’t.

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Hi Susan, Thanks for relating your experiences as I’ve gone through something similar. I’m almost 62 and nearsighted all my life. My floaters in both eyes are maddening and obstructive. Night driving has gotten to be “white knuckled”. I love watching hockey but have trouble finding the puck, or finding the RIGHT puck (eyes watch a floater rather than puck).

Anyway, have you had the vitrectomy or are you still considering it? I have been checking out Dr Jerry Sebag at online Presentations he did at Ophthalmology conferences on Youtube at SOE 2017 and 2019 and otherwise. He seems to be the quintessential expert on the vitreous and floaters. He has defined Vision Degrading Myodesopsia as an actual, clinically measurable DISEASE. He does Contrast Sensitivity and quantitative ultrasound testing (and other testing/questionnaires) to determine how significantly the floaters are affecting a person’s vision and, thereby, quality of life.

Dr Sebag’s practice is in California and I am in Pennsylvania. However, he was kind enough to recommend a retinal surgeon in my area. At this point, I’m STILL considering the surgery and I’m glad that I am, somewhat, more knowledgeable for my discussion with the surgeon.

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Yes. If you go back in this thread I relate my experiences with having a successful surgery in metro Minneapolis. A VitreoRetinal specialist can help.

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@susan2018

Yes. If you go back in this thread I relate my experiences with having a successful surgery in metro Minneapolis. A VitreoRetinal specialist can help.

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Thank you! Sorry, for my poor job following the thread.

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@susan2018

Yes. If you go back in this thread I relate my experiences with having a successful surgery in metro Minneapolis. A VitreoRetinal specialist can help.

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Dear Susan, It being well over a year since your vitrectomys, I wonder how you are doing? I hope well. Are all the floaters gone? How is your vision? How is the health of your eyes otherwise?

I have appointments set up with my optometrist and my retina surgeon for the next couple of months (Covid has set the doctors’ appointments back). Do you, or does anyone, know whether the fact that I’ve had 2 retinal repairs and cataract removed on my eye makes me a better or worse risk for a successful vitrectomy? Thanks so much for starting this discussion topic!

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@bobbyo I just last week had my annual visit to my local ophthalmologist. She reported that my eyes look healthy, no macular degeneration, no glaucoma, retina is fine. She was pleased and so am I. I don’t know whether your retinal repairs are a factor in the possibility of your having the Floaters Only Vitrectomy but I can tell you that I had cataract surgery on both eyes prior to the Vitrectomy. In addition on one of my eyes I had had several additional surgeries including having the corrective lens that was placed during cataract surgery needing to be replaced (because it had moved out of position) and PRK to tweak my correction. As for the floaters, in one eye they are completely gone. In the other, after the Vitrectomy I did notice a small one linger but it eventually settled down. My vision is good, I pass the drivers test without eyeglasses although I choose to wear them when I drive. Otherwise I don’t wear glasses. Good Luck to you. Don’t hesitate to ask if there is anything I can help with.

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