Liver transplant - Let's support each other

Posted by lmctif @lmctif, Oct 29, 2018

What topics do people who are waiting for a liver transplant want to talk about? Who has had a liver transplant and wants to talk about?

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@khh

3 years ago, I went in to have my gallbladder out and found out I was a Metavir 4. My mother does as well. I quit any social drinking, aleve,aspirin, everything that day. My meld varies but stays just below what is “required” for the list. However, the remainder of my findings are just about incompatible with life. I am a physician so I can realize the severity of my US, CT etc. I am 52 years old and I believe I could have many more years to help patients. I am a good pathologist. The NP that sees me down here looks at the MELD score and has not let me have a consult with a transplant surgeon, who I would think would be more likely to look at the totality of my findings. I have followed every letter of the law for 3 years with not even a consult. That is where I am now.

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Hi @khh, has the NP explained why you haven't had a consult with the transplant surgeon? May I ask, are you a patient at Mayo Clinic or another institution?

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@colleenyoung

Hi @khh, has the NP explained why you haven't had a consult with the transplant surgeon? May I ask, are you a patient at Mayo Clinic or another institution?

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Did you get any of that or did I lose the entire thing I typed?

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@khh

Did you get any of that or did I lose the entire thing I typed?

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@khh, I’m sorry to say that your message did not come thru. I hope you will send another one.

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@colleenyoung

Hi @khh, has the NP explained why you haven't had a consult with the transplant surgeon? May I ask, are you a patient at Mayo Clinic or another institution?

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I guess I lost it. Anyway, she has stated upon my request, that she will set one up for after my appt the next time. That hasn’t happened. She is one of the NPs with the GI/liver people. No I’m not on any program list This is the first time I have reached out. I know 2 others on the list here at UMC; things have not gone well. She has not even worked me up yet. All of my friends who had transplants have gone elsewhere. I know your Jacksonville facility would be closer, but I was initially thinking about my family in Illinois and my boyfriend in Grand Rapids. Sorry I dozed off while I was typing.

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@khh

I guess I lost it. Anyway, she has stated upon my request, that she will set one up for after my appt the next time. That hasn’t happened. She is one of the NPs with the GI/liver people. No I’m not on any program list This is the first time I have reached out. I know 2 others on the list here at UMC; things have not gone well. She has not even worked me up yet. All of my friends who had transplants have gone elsewhere. I know your Jacksonville facility would be closer, but I was initially thinking about my family in Illinois and my boyfriend in Grand Rapids. Sorry I dozed off while I was typing.

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@khh I'm not sure what UMC is but you need to think of yourself and your own wellbeing. It sounds as if you know people who are faring better going elsewhere, perhaps you should also.
What is UMC?
JK

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@khh

I guess I lost it. Anyway, she has stated upon my request, that she will set one up for after my appt the next time. That hasn’t happened. She is one of the NPs with the GI/liver people. No I’m not on any program list This is the first time I have reached out. I know 2 others on the list here at UMC; things have not gone well. She has not even worked me up yet. All of my friends who had transplants have gone elsewhere. I know your Jacksonville facility would be closer, but I was initially thinking about my family in Illinois and my boyfriend in Grand Rapids. Sorry I dozed off while I was typing.

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@khh, Like you, I have lost some of my replies. It mostly happens when use my laptop, Grrrrh. I am sorry it happened to you, and thankfully you were successful this time! Did you get a chance to check out the information that I sent you?

I understand your concern about a location that would e nearest to your loved ones. You are correct in considering that because of the support, emotional and physical, that will be needed along the way. I was originally listed locally, but complications resulted in me being transferred to Mayo Rochester. Fortunately my husband was retired and he was able to be at my side I have met others who have managed their long distance transplant quite well, too.
I was under the care of GI who consulted with a liver specialist at the regional transplant center. My numbers had been pretty much stable for years, but when my labs, MELD, and symptoms indicated that my condition was deteriorating, he referred me to the transplant center, where I was examined and accepted as a patient.

Do you know why your NP has not made an appointment with the doctor in the liver department? Have you been diagnosed yet with any particular liver condition?

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@contentandwell

@joanaiken I hope the biopsy went well. Tests like that can be so unnerving.

@jeanne5009 With a MELD of just 8, how severe are your HE episodes? Have any of them caused you to be inpatient?

@racing212 I too had HE a number of times that landed me in the hospital for two or three days. I have heard of people being in the hospital for much longer periods with HE though. In retrospect, I wish I had been transferred to my transplant hospital in Boston, rather than being in the local hospital here in southern NH. They were not very knowledgeable about HE and the treatment I had there was deplorable.
HE is scary and depressing. I consider my mind to be my best asset and to be so confused and irrational was very upsetting. I could feel them coming on and always thought if I just resisted enough I would not get one, but of course I did.

@beckyy39 If you have two willing donors who may be a match can they get tested and possibly have a transplant elsewhere? Having a living donor would certainly quicken the process.

@khh I too welcome you to Connect. I am very surprised that you have not seen a doctor. When I was to have my first appointment with a hepatologist they suggested that I could see her NP sooner than I could see her but I said that I wanted to be seen by a doctor and I was. On every appointment while I was pre-transplant I was seen first by the NP and then the doctor came in. Is there a different transplant center close enough to you that you could switch? For me, not seeing a doctor in all of that time would not be acceptable. If you go to the SRTR database it lists all of the transplant hospitals in the country. I had my transplant at Mass General in Boston and can not say enough good about them. They were wonderful and continue to be post-transplant.
JK

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@contentandwell
I have not had anything severe enough to send me to the ER. Always able to get to the doctor. Mine is mild with headache, extreme tiredness, crazy dreams and irritability. I take Rifaximin 2 times a day and was on lactalose but cut back on that just recently when I developed chronic diaherria. Going in for an EDG and biopsy of colon next week. I have also developed vertigo and interstitial cystitis. Both are really challenging. Never a dull moment. AND...my caregiver has developed a cyst on his pancreas. He is deciding when to have the Whipple procedure done. Lets talk about stress. We are all dealing with roadblocks that can sideline our efforts to ....taking care of us.

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@jeanne5009

@contentandwell
I have not had anything severe enough to send me to the ER. Always able to get to the doctor. Mine is mild with headache, extreme tiredness, crazy dreams and irritability. I take Rifaximin 2 times a day and was on lactalose but cut back on that just recently when I developed chronic diaherria. Going in for an EDG and biopsy of colon next week. I have also developed vertigo and interstitial cystitis. Both are really challenging. Never a dull moment. AND...my caregiver has developed a cyst on his pancreas. He is deciding when to have the Whipple procedure done. Lets talk about stress. We are all dealing with roadblocks that can sideline our efforts to ....taking care of us.

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@jeanne5009 I hope your HE continues to be that mild. Some people never have it at all so it probably will.
As I mentioned, for a very long time I just took xifaxan two times a day and that kept me HE free.
I hope your EDG and biopsy don’t unearth additional problems, and that your caretaker’s cyst will be taken care of easily. You and he have your hands full.
JK

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@contentandwell

@jeanne5009 I hope your HE continues to be that mild. Some people never have it at all so it probably will.
As I mentioned, for a very long time I just took xifaxan two times a day and that kept me HE free.
I hope your EDG and biopsy don’t unearth additional problems, and that your caretaker’s cyst will be taken care of easily. You and he have your hands full.
JK

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I’m trying to hold it together and yes I’ve had trouble with HE. I have been taking Xiphaxan for almost 3 years now. Unfortunately. This is only the tip of my iceberg. I don’t think anyone knows how I’m walking around. I guess I’m very stubborn. I can’t always respond to everyone bc I’m still working full time and I fall out when I get home. Most recently my AFP began elevating.
I just want to be evaluated by someone with more experience and knowledge than the NP I’m seeing. Thank you for your prayers!

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@khh

I’m trying to hold it together and yes I’ve had trouble with HE. I have been taking Xiphaxan for almost 3 years now. Unfortunately. This is only the tip of my iceberg. I don’t think anyone knows how I’m walking around. I guess I’m very stubborn. I can’t always respond to everyone bc I’m still working full time and I fall out when I get home. Most recently my AFP began elevating.
I just want to be evaluated by someone with more experience and knowledge than the NP I’m seeing. Thank you for your prayers!

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I've been hospitalized twice for HE but haven't had further issues once I was put on xifaxan 2 x daily and lactulose. I wasn't aware it was happening and was driving in that condition. When I had coworkers, clients, and my son notice strange behavior, I was sent to the ER and my ammonia level was near 90. I didn't even know my name, address, or even that I was at the hospital...I have never been so scared, so my heart goes out to you. Fortunately my eval visit starts on March 10 and it is about 100 miles to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville from where I live so my 17 year old son (caregiver) and I will be in a hotel that whole time and I hope the process is smooth...have had a very hard week.

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