Loss and Grief: How are you doing?

Posted by Teresa, Volunteer Mentor @hopeful33250, Jan 16, 2018

When my dad passed away several years ago I lost my keys 4 times in one month, I would wake up at 3 a.m. several days every week feeling startled. Sound familiar? These are reactions to grief. Grief is a very personal experience - everyone grieves differently – even in the same family because the relationship of a father is different than that of a wife or a granddaughter. Unfortunately, often we grieve alone. Sometimes we don’t want to “bother others” with our grief, and sometimes friends and family tell us that we should be over it by now. After all the person we lost was ill for a long time or was very old and “it was their time” or “they are in a better place now.” Sound familiar?

Grieving is often described as the "work of grief." It does feel like hard work doesn’t it? Grief can be difficult because of the many factors related to the loss. If the loss followed a prolonged, serious illness you undoubtedly did some “anticipatory grief work” prior to the actual death of the loved one. If the loss, however, was sudden, i.e., accident related, suicide, a result of crime, etc. the sense of grief is coupled with shock.

The relationship that you had with the loved one also affects your grief experience, i.e. was your relationship close or had it been strained? Do you feel guilt that you were not closer or do you feel guilty because you don’t feel you did enough to help while your loved one was ill?

Sometimes anger plays a part in the grief process. Did your loved one get poor medical treatment or a wrong and/or late diagnosis? Did your loved one not follow your doctor’s orders with regard to their health (diet, smoking, attention to meds or exercise)? All of these factors contribute to your experience of grief.

Also, some losses are not so evident to others. These would include a miscarriage or a stillborn. Sometimes these losses are not considered as relevant to others as the loss of a person who has lived a longer life. In the case of a miscarriage, others might not even be aware of your loss.

You may think of that person on anniversary dates (their birthday, date of their death) or you might think of them constantly. Unfortunately, sometime people say things that can multiply grief. Have you ever heard someone say, “you should be over this by now?” or “I had a similar experience and I’m OK.” Well, most likely their similar experience was not the same as yours. Thinking you should be over it might compound your grief with feelings of guilt or frustration.

Whether a recent loss, or a loss you experienced a long time ago, let’s talk about it. Whatever your experience, I'd like to hear your stories and together find a way to relocate that loved one so that we can experience peace in our lifetime.

Together let us support each other in our grief journey.

Teresa

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Loss & Grief Support Group.

@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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Hello @mar1222 While I am sorry to read of your journey though grief, I am pleased you found Mayo Connect! I am Scott and I lost my wife almost exactly two years ago now. The doctors said her chance of dying from her situation was "one in a million". The odds make no difference in loss. Just as I have individually found my grief does not follow the supposed steps or stages of grief I have read about. I am still learning to, and working on, managing my grief over this loss. The same is true for our adult children as well as her closest friends. We each follow a path as unique in grief as was our love for the person we lost. Unfortunately, I cannot offer any magical words or equation for escaping our new world.

Often (well meaning) folks say things essentially suggesting I need to 'move on' or 'get over it'. I have now taken to replying "I was married to my wife for 41 years. When I have grieved for 41 years, perhaps then you can tell me to 'get over it'. My grief is now a part of me just as my wife is not. You cannot tear a part of you away and not hurt from it!

We who are grieving are living, not in a 'new normal', but in a different world where grief is now a partner with us. Our love for the person we lost is now replaced by the grief over that love lost. It is not simple, easy, nor quick to overcome. Love is like that, right?

The one physical thing I do is keep a running list of things I want to do. Usually simple things like call a certain friend, write someone, fix something, and on occasion go someplace. I never complete an item on the list without adding a new one to the bottom so the list never ends. This helps me (it may not help others) move towards tomorrow since I know there is something for me to look forward to.

I look forward to also hearing from you again!

I wish you continued strength, courage, and peace.

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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@hopeful33250 So true. I know I can be a downer and trying to change. I know I do not stay around negative people if I can help thus. I am sorry for not being more encouraging. I am working on this.

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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Thank you for your response
He was younger
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@2011panc

Hello @mar1222 and thank you for sharing your situation. Loss is always hard, what helped me most was my faith and knowing that this was the proper order of things in order for us all to be reunited later. Next I learned the 5 phases of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Next I had to learn to assess how I was an what stage I was in, then I researched ways to cope and move beyond my current stage. I moved to depression very quickly and dealt with that by "suiting up and showing up". I made sure to complete basics every day: eat, sleep, shower, dress. My secondary list included basics that need to be done on a regular basis: go to work, do laundry, cook, clean the kitchen, clean the bathroom, hang up or fold my clothes, clean the floors, etc. After doing that for a while I realized that "faking it until I made it" was working and I spent less time each day in mourning and feeling sorry for myself.

Just remember that everyone moves at their own pace. Just because someone else has moved on does not mean yu are ready to, just keep taking care of what you need to and do what you can to keep living. Living means having fun. It is okay for you to laugh and enjoy your favorite things. Keep coming back. We have all been through our own grief.

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Thank you so much for this @2011panc
I’ve been doing all the basics
Going to work, chores
But for me it’s gotten harder to fake it
I think I’m stuck in the denial/depression phase...
I went to play tennis today which I haven’t done in years. I’m going to be kind to myself but I also need to jolt myself out of this. Thank you again

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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I’m just sitting here crying @IndianaScott I am so sorry for your loss. What an incredible love story, though!
I have had people tell me to “Get over it” also and it’s infuriating. The one time I broke down at work (I’m a teacher) one if my principals said she wished I could schedule these things better and not interrupt the work day..... that felt awful.
I really love the list idea and I am going to start it RIGHT NOW!
Thank you again and thank you for sharing your story.

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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@parus I believe that you will succeed! Teresa

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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@IndianaScott

Scott, I just love what you say about, "We who are grieving are living, not in a 'new normal', but in a different world where grief is now a partner with us. Our love for the person we lost is now replaced by the grief over that love lost." You have created a great word picture about "partnering with grief" this is so true! Thanks for those thoughts.

Teresa

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

This discussion group has been rather quiet for a while and I was just wondering how you were all doing. I hope that you are enjoying the summer weather and the absence of snow and ice - I certainly am.

Today, in my email box was an email from Dr. Amit Sood. He provided a couple of links to talks of his that are on Youtube. I thought of you all because the first one deals with tears - I know we usually don't like to cry! However, Dr. Sood provides some pretty compelling reasons why to let those tears flow. Take a look at this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6dgQTlQrEk
In this same email he gives another link to a talk on who we should listen to and why. When we are dealing with grief, especially in our family, many unhelpful voices come to the surface. Here are some suggestions for filtering those voices - the voices you should listen to (and be reframed by) and the ones to ignore:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsLwXaU3Eg
After watching these videos, I'd like to discuss them.

Teresa

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Thank you, Teresa, aka @hopeful33250

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@hopeful33250

Hello All:

I just happened to see this article from the New York times about grief and I thought of you all. It is not heavy duty reading but instead a collection of pictures and thoughts about the unpredictableness of grief and the reactions of us and those around us. I would especially encourage you to look at "Triggers."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/sunday-review/how-to-speak-grief.html
I'm wishing for you all memories that create a sense of gratitude and peace.

Teresa

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Hi, @muppey -- just thinking of you and wondering how you are getting along. How is that tooth abscess you had?

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@mar1222

I am so glad that you keep posting! This is the way to healing, we need to get those feelings that are bottled up and put them out in the open. Keep talking, keep writing and if you still feel "stuck" remember professional resources are as close as a call to your primary care doctor. Sometimes we all need help pulling ourselves out of difficult places.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Teresa

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