To move near family or stay put
we have been living in a retirement community for 21 years, and our children are encouraging us to move back to our previous community and be near them. We have long-term care insurance which could cover us in either place should we have the need?
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Oh my goodness, reading these posts is certainly eye opening. I am going to respond to the couple that is thinking of moving to Phoenix, Arizona and Mayo Clinic. First of all we are a couple without children but have taken care of plenty when we were younger. Those that have responded regarding child care are "right on", the fact that your son and future daughter-in-law are asking you to move closer to be their "nanny's" to me if very telling. If you are to do that you need to have frank discussions and set some boundaries otherwise you might be in for a very rude awakening on both of your parts. Everyone means well but when reality hits it becomes a whole other story. What will happen when you can no longer either physically or mentally fulfill their wishes and you will be needing the care? Might they be too busy with work and now children to be able to help you out?
Next moving to Mayo sounds great, but - - - do you even know if you will be able to establish care at Mayo? While Mayo is "top notch" medical care it is not easy to become a Mayo Patient. Take it from someone who's husband is one. Some of the departments are "closed" to outside patients as they are so overwhelmed with the patients that they have. Also what type of insurance do you have? Mayo will except conventional Medicare but not the HMO Medicare advantage plans. So check this out before you make any decisions.
Next someone mentioned Arizona heat, it is real and it is HOT! You are pretty much indoors from May until late September if you are in the Phoenix area, we live just south of Phoenix and we know. The other thing is the dust, dust, and more dust so if you have any breathing issues Arizona is not the place to be. We are struggling with contemplating a move just because of the dust. Right now we are able to travel for part of the summer to cooler climates where we can at least be outside but when we come home to a dirty dusty house it is disgusting.
So what I say it do your research and think things thru, don't do anything in haste and the best to you in your decisions.
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John, I replied to your post but did not hit the "reply" section so my reply is at the end on page 25. It includes thoughts/ideas for you to check out before moving to Phoenix, AZ Check it out if you are interested.
@merwin I like your Portland idea to move near siblings. There are quite a few areas around Portland that are quieter, and less traffic. And, Portland has a good healthcare system..
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1 Reaction@healthconscious And one other danger, although it is generally remote....not many people contract it, but it is a known disease, and it's called 'desert lung', or mycosis. More specifically, it's coccidia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis. I wouldn't have bothered to mention it, but my own father developed a cough 20 years ago and it persisted. He went to the Mayo Clinic at his sister's urging (she and her husband were very well connected, if you know what I mean). They found it was coccidia, he being a snowbird from Canada who spent winters in Bullhead City. It required a full year of treatment. That was, as I said, 20 years ago, when my dad was 75. Did the treatment Mayo provided work? Yes, he ended himself with MAID this past February (long story, and we supported his way of ending himself due to deteriorations). He had lived well another 20 years, but would have succumbed to pneumonia or some other secondary infection in due time had he not been both diagnosed properly and treated.
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2 Reactions@healthconscious THANKS! I spoke to family residents of Scottsdale who seem to think the heat is manageable by doing errands in am and using indoor gyms. They are not concerned about floods of rains in monsoon season, fires because they “live in desert”, water issues, dust, etc. As I wd be new to area and have four seasons it seems a lot more than I might readily adjust to. I do not have good geriatric care but the med system is beyond broken and to send me 60 miles one way is not something I can do. ER trips were nightmares. Urgent care much like ER. Exposes to more illness for which I cant be treated due to drug reactions. Been told to go to ER if bleeding badly, having heart attack or broken bones. Otherwise just use regular meds. It is not safe for nany of my friends who give up kn meds. Beg meds from others, go to a dr who doesnt have time nor know them, or at 90 drive on ice to unknown places. It is sad. Few choices but lots of money helps
I’m having the same issue, I have four children living in Georgia and I live in South Carolina about an hour and 15 minutes away, and they are begging me to move back closer to them, and I wouldn’t be opposed to it outside of a few factors, one being me having to change my healthcare set up and the other being that I’ve been living in South Carolina for eight years now and in the entire eight years that I’ve been here they’ve not been to visit me more than 10 times and I think that’s ridiculous!!! because I go back-and-forth to Georgia where they live usually around 2 sometimes three 3 times a month , so that makes me wonder if none of them seem to have time to drive an hour to see me at least once a month , how often will they visit if I’m 20 or 30 minutes away. I just kind of think it’s asinine that they would rather have me uproot my life and pay thousands of dollars to move me closer to them as opposed to just driving an hour every now and then to come and visit, Then whenever I ask them about a visit their excuse always has to do with their vehicles. Somethings always wrong with them, but those same vehicles take them every place else they wanna go. A a few weeks ago one of my daughters and her husband found out about a restaurant an hour away from the house that they wanted to try out and they went on a random Tuesday with no problem and no mention about the problems they were supposedly having with the Car. I’m starting to think maybe they don’t like me that much, they just want me closer in case something happens to me, they won’t have to be inconvenienced by driving the distance to come and deal with the situation. so actually the more I think about it, the less inclined I am to do it.
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You don't mention whether they have children, jobs and other obligations.
You are there in Georgia so often that I wonder what their incentive might be to go to South Carolina more often.
It seems that you have an expectation or a desire that may or may not be realistic or desirable for them. You wonder if they don't like you but I wonder if you have all communicated your individual desires to one another. Expectations are another thing all together and if
yours and theirs don't match it can lead to frustration and sadness.
Can they set limits on visits without feeling that they have hurt you or that they are bad or wrong? I only ask because you seem to indicate that they make excuses for not coming more often rather than being straightforward about what they want and don't want. There is nothing wrong in feeling hurt or disappointed. It is how you handle it that counts.
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We have lived in the same town, 100 miles away, 300 miles away and are now about 70 miles away. Distance in our case doesn’t make much of a difference. They are all married and have families so they have lives of their own. It’s not a matter of if they like you or not just that I am guessing like me you raised them to be independent. So if you are happy with where you currently live and don’t mind traveling to see them then by all means stay there. Be honestly brutal with them (tough love) and ask them straight out will I see you more if I move closer, why do you feel I need to be closer etc. and don’t be afraid to tell them exactly how you feel just like you voiced to all of us in your post.
Changing healthcare although a pain is not all that hard( just did it in March) so don’t use that as an excuse.
Do what makes you happy and I wish you the best of luck with your future
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4 Reactions@mrskim stay where you are! Good medical care is not easy to find! Also … is it that necessary for you to visit your kids two or three times a month, considering the price of gas these days? If I were in your shoes I would visit perhaps once in six weeks or so. In this technological era, you can just as easily “visit” them on FaceTime. Less wear and tear on you and your car!
Young people with families lead very busy lives, with work and kids’ extracurricular activities. It is unlikely you will see your family more often even if you moved closer.
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9 Reactions@mrskim , you make good points. I agree with your reasoning, except about the family members motivation. It’s likely they like (love) you just fine. My theory is that adult children and grandchildren stay focused on their hectic schedules, activities, work, etc. Visiting just doesn’t become a priority for them. And, they put it on the back burner. Something they’ll do later……but later gets postponed from year to year.
As an adult child who does make visiting/caregiving a priority, I can report that based on my observations, even children who live in the same town might not make it by to visit that often. It’s extremely common. If fact, I see so little visiting/helping with senior parents in my community that I am amazed that anyone considers it a real option. Of course, there are exceptions, but in general I don’t see this happening anymore. And, I don’t think it has to do with a lack of love. Jmo
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