To move near family or stay put

Posted by beckboop13 @beckboop13, Jul 28, 2024

we have been living in a retirement community for 21 years, and our children are encouraging us to move back to our previous community and be near them. We have long-term care insurance which could cover us in either place should we have the need?

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Oh my goodness, reading these posts is certainly eye opening. I am going to respond to the couple that is thinking of moving to Phoenix, Arizona and Mayo Clinic. First of all we are a couple without children but have taken care of plenty when we were younger. Those that have responded regarding child care are "right on", the fact that your son and future daughter-in-law are asking you to move closer to be their "nanny's" to me if very telling. If you are to do that you need to have frank discussions and set some boundaries otherwise you might be in for a very rude awakening on both of your parts. Everyone means well but when reality hits it becomes a whole other story. What will happen when you can no longer either physically or mentally fulfill their wishes and you will be needing the care? Might they be too busy with work and now children to be able to help you out?
Next moving to Mayo sounds great, but - - - do you even know if you will be able to establish care at Mayo? While Mayo is "top notch" medical care it is not easy to become a Mayo Patient. Take it from someone who's husband is one. Some of the departments are "closed" to outside patients as they are so overwhelmed with the patients that they have. Also what type of insurance do you have? Mayo will except conventional Medicare but not the HMO Medicare advantage plans. So check this out before you make any decisions.
Next someone mentioned Arizona heat, it is real and it is HOT! You are pretty much indoors from May until late September if you are in the Phoenix area, we live just south of Phoenix and we know. The other thing is the dust, dust, and more dust so if you have any breathing issues Arizona is not the place to be. We are struggling with contemplating a move just because of the dust. Right now we are able to travel for part of the summer to cooler climates where we can at least be outside but when we come home to a dirty dusty house it is disgusting.
So what I say it do your research and think things thru, don't do anything in haste and the best to you in your decisions.

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We love Oregon, where we live. Our son is a horse vet in Phoenix. We won't move unless I die first, and my wife may move. Unless we're needed, we're staying here.

But . . . he's getting married to another vet and they want a family. With child care costs today, he and his fiance asked us to move near Phoenix to help keep the kids they don't have yet so child care isn't an issue. Of course, we'll go, since they asked for help, and that's what we'll do when the time is right.

For me, I have CHF, a tumor, maybe an adenoma, in my brain, and a very sad case of arthritis everywhere. I will be so glad to become a Mayo patient.

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@johnnoregon
John, I replied to your post but did not hit the "reply" section so my reply is at the end on page 25. It includes thoughts/ideas for you to check out before moving to Phoenix, AZ Check it out if you are interested.

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@kjoed53
I’m in the first year of having my two daughters live so far away from me—as I’ve said in my post one lives in Alaska, other in Amsterdam and traveling to see either one of them takes about the same amount of time since getting to see my Alaska daughter involves a four or five hour ferry trip, and a flight of eight hours.
What has helped me the most is volunteering—the library, reading tutoring for elementary schools and working at a food pantry distribution center.
I did childcare for my daughter’s three children 2-3 days/week for the last seven years, so their absence really has made a difference in my weekly life. I began doing childcare for them two months after I retired, and really didn’t develop my retirement life because of this. They appreciated me for sure and I appreciated the time with them, but when they moved, it left a big hole in my life.
I still haven’t come to a decision on staying put or moving to Portland, which is much busier than my town in southern Oregon. I hedge on going forward with this because of all the traffic that I hear about from my sister who on the other hand strongly encourages me to come up there to be nearer family—3 sisters, 2 brothers—all aged 62-74. I plan to go up in the next month for a few days to look around neighborhoods that she will show me to see if I’ll be able to visualize making the change.
I appreciate this thread in the ability to read decision-making and circumstances of others in my age – – it’s not an easy time, this transition.

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@merwin I like your Portland idea to move near siblings. There are quite a few areas around Portland that are quieter, and less traffic. And, Portland has a good healthcare system..

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Oh my goodness, reading these posts is certainly eye opening. I am going to respond to the couple that is thinking of moving to Phoenix, Arizona and Mayo Clinic. First of all we are a couple without children but have taken care of plenty when we were younger. Those that have responded regarding child care are "right on", the fact that your son and future daughter-in-law are asking you to move closer to be their "nanny's" to me if very telling. If you are to do that you need to have frank discussions and set some boundaries otherwise you might be in for a very rude awakening on both of your parts. Everyone means well but when reality hits it becomes a whole other story. What will happen when you can no longer either physically or mentally fulfill their wishes and you will be needing the care? Might they be too busy with work and now children to be able to help you out?
Next moving to Mayo sounds great, but - - - do you even know if you will be able to establish care at Mayo? While Mayo is "top notch" medical care it is not easy to become a Mayo Patient. Take it from someone who's husband is one. Some of the departments are "closed" to outside patients as they are so overwhelmed with the patients that they have. Also what type of insurance do you have? Mayo will except conventional Medicare but not the HMO Medicare advantage plans. So check this out before you make any decisions.
Next someone mentioned Arizona heat, it is real and it is HOT! You are pretty much indoors from May until late September if you are in the Phoenix area, we live just south of Phoenix and we know. The other thing is the dust, dust, and more dust so if you have any breathing issues Arizona is not the place to be. We are struggling with contemplating a move just because of the dust. Right now we are able to travel for part of the summer to cooler climates where we can at least be outside but when we come home to a dirty dusty house it is disgusting.
So what I say it do your research and think things thru, don't do anything in haste and the best to you in your decisions.

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@healthconscious And one other danger, although it is generally remote....not many people contract it, but it is a known disease, and it's called 'desert lung', or mycosis. More specifically, it's coccidia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis. I wouldn't have bothered to mention it, but my own father developed a cough 20 years ago and it persisted. He went to the Mayo Clinic at his sister's urging (she and her husband were very well connected, if you know what I mean). They found it was coccidia, he being a snowbird from Canada who spent winters in Bullhead City. It required a full year of treatment. That was, as I said, 20 years ago, when my dad was 75. Did the treatment Mayo provided work? Yes, he ended himself with MAID this past February (long story, and we supported his way of ending himself due to deteriorations). He had lived well another 20 years, but would have succumbed to pneumonia or some other secondary infection in due time had he not been both diagnosed properly and treated.

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Oh my goodness, reading these posts is certainly eye opening. I am going to respond to the couple that is thinking of moving to Phoenix, Arizona and Mayo Clinic. First of all we are a couple without children but have taken care of plenty when we were younger. Those that have responded regarding child care are "right on", the fact that your son and future daughter-in-law are asking you to move closer to be their "nanny's" to me if very telling. If you are to do that you need to have frank discussions and set some boundaries otherwise you might be in for a very rude awakening on both of your parts. Everyone means well but when reality hits it becomes a whole other story. What will happen when you can no longer either physically or mentally fulfill their wishes and you will be needing the care? Might they be too busy with work and now children to be able to help you out?
Next moving to Mayo sounds great, but - - - do you even know if you will be able to establish care at Mayo? While Mayo is "top notch" medical care it is not easy to become a Mayo Patient. Take it from someone who's husband is one. Some of the departments are "closed" to outside patients as they are so overwhelmed with the patients that they have. Also what type of insurance do you have? Mayo will except conventional Medicare but not the HMO Medicare advantage plans. So check this out before you make any decisions.
Next someone mentioned Arizona heat, it is real and it is HOT! You are pretty much indoors from May until late September if you are in the Phoenix area, we live just south of Phoenix and we know. The other thing is the dust, dust, and more dust so if you have any breathing issues Arizona is not the place to be. We are struggling with contemplating a move just because of the dust. Right now we are able to travel for part of the summer to cooler climates where we can at least be outside but when we come home to a dirty dusty house it is disgusting.
So what I say it do your research and think things thru, don't do anything in haste and the best to you in your decisions.

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@healthconscious THANKS! I spoke to family residents of Scottsdale who seem to think the heat is manageable by doing errands in am and using indoor gyms. They are not concerned about floods of rains in monsoon season, fires because they “live in desert”, water issues, dust, etc. As I wd be new to area and have four seasons it seems a lot more than I might readily adjust to. I do not have good geriatric care but the med system is beyond broken and to send me 60 miles one way is not something I can do. ER trips were nightmares. Urgent care much like ER. Exposes to more illness for which I cant be treated due to drug reactions. Been told to go to ER if bleeding badly, having heart attack or broken bones. Otherwise just use regular meds. It is not safe for nany of my friends who give up kn meds. Beg meds from others, go to a dr who doesnt have time nor know them, or at 90 drive on ice to unknown places. It is sad. Few choices but lots of money helps

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