Aging from a useful man to something considerably less

Posted by twday67 @twday67, Sep 1 9:21am

For the first 70 years of my life, I made my living and earned my place being useful. I have been fixing, building, and designing everything from salvaged homes to consumer electronic products since I was 17. As an electronics engineer, I have been a designer, a manufacturing engineer, a manufacturing and customer service manager, a field clinical engineer (in medical devices), and a reliability assurance engineer. Along the way as my family's single income source, I have bought and upgraded five houses. I did almost all of the repairs to our family vehicles, my own motorcycles, and pretty much any piece of equipment related to work or home.

Since passing 70, my ability to do all or any of those things is rapidly in decline. About the only car repairs I do now is oil changes. Due to myasthenia gravis and vision issues, I sold my last motorcycle 2 years ago and, after 60 years on two wheels, I'm down to an occasional local ride on an e-bike. So far, I have been able to do all the repair work on my e-bikes. 😉 I have had an electronic shop in a garage or room of our homes for more than 50 years, but early this summer I started selling and giving away those tools and parts.

Between my job and chores and hobbies, doing stuff has been core to my self-identity. The stuff that I can do is rapidly shrinking and, with it, goes a good bit of who I have always thought I am. I know there have to be a lot of people in the same situation and I would love to know how you have handled it.m

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@methel when we moved into the house where we currently live, downsizing from two and a half acres to a third acre, I started container gardening. And for a dozen years that was productive, fun, and a little bit encouraging. But our Mississippi Valley hometown is built on a wide collection of hills and our house is on one of those hills. Lugging water off a steep hillside, where my containers are (so they can get some sun) became an issue this year. Same for the orchard I planted 12 years ago. Due to the heat and drought we didn't have any cherries this year, but even though I neglected the apples They are packed right now and I'm not up to collecting them. The spouse and I are at odds as to whether we can keep this place or need to move to something smaller with flatter landscape. It's a continuing argument.

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@twday67

Yes, getting the watering right is probably my biggest challenge in containers. Where I live I can rely on the rainfall most years and so I gave up hanging baskets because I couldn’t keep enough water on them. And I do miss a lot about ‘real’ gardening, but this is my life now and I’ve found container gardening more fun (and challenging) than I thought possible 20 years ago.

Best wishes as you go forward.

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Profile picture for edsutton @edsutton

Twday, I have not had any degree of loss comparable to yours, nor did I ever have your degree of competency and success, so I don't have great examples of personal adjustment to offer. Perhaps I can offer a few light generalities.
I'm learning to respect my body's new limits. Halfway to the barn this morning I had to put down the stack of boards and make two trips where I'd expected to make one. I've had to learn to respect someone else's way to do a job. I'm learning teamwork and to just be a helper in situations where I would have been in charge. Actually it can be fun to see that other people can also get things done.
The things I can do are precious. I'm learning to rest when my energy is drooping, not to push through. I'll enjoy the rest and I'll enjoy the work when I return in better form.
I still struggle accept my lesser productivity, and that leads to a new approach to life. Being proud of my productivity was a way to avoid deeper thoughts about life. It gave me something I could measure every day and chart my "progress."
Hmm. You're a designer at heart, and you still have that capacity. Maybe you could design a new curriculum for yourself, discover a new purpose, or even find a way to live happily without purpose. How's that for a challenge?

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@edsutton
“Designing a new curriculum for yourself.”
I really like this idea! Thank you.

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@twday67 thanks for sharing. I’ve had the same experience with my grandparents and parents who lived well into their 90s. Their last 10 years were miserable. Just miserable.
When a doctor asks if I want to live a long time, I say “No”!

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@jwcarroll54 one of many things that I love about the Mayo Clinic is wherever I go in their system, my living will a DNR order follows me.

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@twday67

Yes, getting the watering right is probably my biggest challenge in containers. Where I live I can rely on the rainfall most years and so I gave up hanging baskets because I couldn’t keep enough water on them. And I do miss a lot about ‘real’ gardening, but this is my life now and I’ve found container gardening more fun (and challenging) than I thought possible 20 years ago.

Best wishes as you go forward.

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@methel just today I experience, or re-experienced, one of the more hilarious things about being old and trying to hang on to gardening. We've been in a spring, summer, and fall long drought in Minnesota and I'm used to watering my vegetables from a rain barrel. That requires me to fill a couple of two and a half gallon buckets and Hike the water up the hillside in my backyard to where the plants are trying to live. This year in particular, I have regularly accidentally emptied my rain barrel but forgetting to turn it off after the buckets are filled. That's a pretty funny reminder of where my mind is going.

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@binw

I think you have a point. This advice ‘ to just do the right things’ stuff ignores the strong influence of just luck. My advice is that as you get older, things inevitably will go wrong with your body. Try to only have the ones which modern medicine can fix. I am almost 84 and so far have mainly had that kind of luck. That said, I used to be an avid hands on, all over the yard gardener. Now my physical limitations have forced me to become primarily a container gardener. I still find joy in growing green things and this year had cucumbers to give away. A tremendous boost to my self-image.

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@methel Good for you! As others have said here, adapt, and appreciate what you are able to do, and not focus on what you can't. 🙂 Some days I just allow myself to wallow in some self pity. Lol. It's always better the next day.

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For all people who are aging (and who isn’t?)- your life is mostly what you make it. And it is a series of challenges sometimes that seem impossible to surmount, but the one thing we can do is face those challenges with as much determination and information as possible. The glass is either half full or half empty. My experience with seniors is that people who complain the loudest have the least reason and those who do not complain have the most reason.

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@tsch , so true!

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@methel when we moved into the house where we currently live, downsizing from two and a half acres to a third acre, I started container gardening. And for a dozen years that was productive, fun, and a little bit encouraging. But our Mississippi Valley hometown is built on a wide collection of hills and our house is on one of those hills. Lugging water off a steep hillside, where my containers are (so they can get some sun) became an issue this year. Same for the orchard I planted 12 years ago. Due to the heat and drought we didn't have any cherries this year, but even though I neglected the apples They are packed right now and I'm not up to collecting them. The spouse and I are at odds as to whether we can keep this place or need to move to something smaller with flatter landscape. It's a continuing argument.

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@twday67 Your spouse is invested in you as well. He/she needs you to be whole, as healthy as possible, not hurting and injured, but also not down on yourself and depressed because of the growing list of limitations. She/he would give you permission, if you asked for it, to move last week if it meant you were happier and could do more together instead of fretting over things that need doing. If you two are team players, and each of you comprises THE team, then talk frankly and plan now for the eventualities, and show each other the love and understanding.

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In most areas we are definitely a team of sorts. However, she is dramatically more emotional and reactionary. When we moved into this house, we hit the ground running knowing that we had a very limited time to get a lot of work done before we would run out of capabilities. It has been highly personalized and it all means a lot to her, emotionally. I have given up so many things in this last decade that is no longer a consideration for me.

We've joked for most of our 59 years together that I am compulsive while she is impulsive. I'm the kind of nut job who carefully organizes all of the trees in my toolbox so that like tools are next to each other. She is pushing the limits of her tolerance just getting the tools back on the bench. So, and this dilemma I'm trying to plan a couple of years ahead to address our declining abilities while she is wildly hoping we can just keep going as we are forever.

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I am very impressed with all of your accomplishments! You must be a very intelligent person to do all of those things and do them apparently very well! My husband was similar in that he could fix anything electrical, mechanical or build beautiful things for our home. His shed was filled with numerous chop saws, electric screw saw things etc. As he got more ill with lung cancer, he was unable to do all of the things that he used to do. He couldn't even leaf blow the lawn anymore. It really bothered him. However, I got him to focus more on other things that he enjoyed such as doing 1000 piece jigsaw puzzles and watching John Wayne movies on TV. He also tutored me in dealing with issues that came up in the house like if the drain was plugged. He'd tell me the correct way to use the Drano plus many other things that he always used to handle. This helped me immensely after he died in 2024 and I was alone.

Prayer also helped us. We turned to God and he got us through that bad time. I'll say a prayer for you.
I wish you the best.
PML
PML

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Profile picture for mariannewmoon @mariannewmoon

I would just like to say that I admire all of you men who did so well at taking the responsibility of supporting yourselves and your families. Neither of my two husbands came even close to what you all have done. They basically expected me to support them. I tried, but I was never very good at it. Even though you are going through the trials of "old age", you should all be proud of what you have done for your families and yourselves. Now is the time to slow down, rest and find other interests like some of you have already. But never stop being proud of what you have accomplished in the past.

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@mariannewmoon
I'm sure that you did your best and that's all any of us can do. Give yourself the credit you deserve for getting this far. Our generation and the one before didn't make it easy for women to be the breadwinner. It's the transition to retirement that is difficult. After 45 years of balancing career and family, it's difficult to deal with all the free time coupled with our declining physical abilities. It gives us too much time to think. I know that is a dangerous combination for me...lol

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