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Vit D-3 and K-2

Posted by naiviv @naiviv, 2 days ago

Hello. Has anyone heard about the benefits of taking Vit D3 with K2 for heart health?

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Fred | @fred1 | 15 hours ago
In reply to @kjoed53 "@fred1 To me it sounds like you're discounting anything not supported by large scale studies. If..." + (show)
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To me it sounds like you're discounting anything not supported by large scale studies. If I'm wrong then I misinterpreted your comment. If I'm right then it would be tossing aside many of the options available to us, which is anyone's prerogative. I'm on 3mg LDN which is helping me transition from prednisone to kevzara. It is an off label use that is not supported by large scale studies. LDN is more widely studied and prescribed for fibromyalgia than for PMR, MS, chronic pain or fatigue but even those studies are small in comparison to the studies required for new drugs. Kevzara is approved for PMR but actemra is not, even though both are very similar. Actemra did not have the results from a large scale study to support FDA approval for PMR treatment, but it is sometimes still prescribed and works.

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@kjoed53, Sir, you have definitely misinterpreted my comment. Pleas read my response, quoting the statement from the original AI article that I posted. Thank you.

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kjoed53 | @kjoed53 | 14 hours ago
In reply to @fred1 "@kjoed53, Sir, you have definitely misinterpreted my comment. Pleas read my response, quoting the statement from..." + (show)
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@kjoed53, Sir, you have definitely misinterpreted my comment. Pleas read my response, quoting the statement from the original AI article that I posted. Thank you.

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I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just trying to understand what is the meaning of your post. Your AI comment says that small studies support the cardiovascular benefits while large studies are inconclusive. Because your comment includes the caveat that large studies are the gold standard, it leads to the interpretation that small studies do not matter. I will also add that imo most cardiovascular studies of vitamin and mineral supplements are inherently imperfect in that it's nearly impossible to take a group of individuals and determine what would happen if they take a supplement vs if they don't take a supplement. Each individual carries their own risks for cardiovascular disease that is not replicated in any other individual. It leads to an interpretation of the results and a conclusion that could be entirely different if a new study was to begin with a whole different set of individuals. Low vitamin D3 is associated with risks because of the important role it plays in our health. Maybe I just don't understand the point you were trying to make.

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greengold | @greengold | 9 hours ago

No one has mentioned that there is Vitamin K2, K2-4 and K2-7. All different.
Yes, K2 is found in leafy greens and should not be taken with blood thinners. K2-7 and K2-4 are for the bones and will keep calcium out of your soft tissues and direct it into the bones. I take 100mcg (note mcg) of K2-7 every morning. Morning, as it can cause insomnia if taken late in the day. It is made from natto (fermented soybeans) It seems that we cannot get K2-4 in Canada.
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njx58 | @njx58 | 8 hours ago
In reply to @greengold "No one has mentioned that there is Vitamin K2, K2-4 and K2-7. All different. Yes, K2..." + (show)
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No one has mentioned that there is Vitamin K2, K2-4 and K2-7. All different.
Yes, K2 is found in leafy greens and should not be taken with blood thinners. K2-7 and K2-4 are for the bones and will keep calcium out of your soft tissues and direct it into the bones. I take 100mcg (note mcg) of K2-7 every morning. Morning, as it can cause insomnia if taken late in the day. It is made from natto (fermented soybeans) It seems that we cannot get K2-4 in Canada.
Google them!

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@greengold I believe it's K1, K2-MK4, and K2-MK7.

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greengold | @greengold | 7 hours ago

Thanks for the specifuc correction. It will make it easier for people to look it up in Google.

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