Draining My Pouch

@susanf8
I have tried so many and continue to have the problem. The only thing that helps is to add a decent amount of the deodorant solution every time I drain.
On average I drain 4 to 5 times a day

@pidge32 it sounds like adding the deodorant solution is working. Since you do have to drain multiple times a day, having a closed pouch wouldn't make that much sense.

It's always good to look for something that works better, but for now it sounds like you have a working solution?

@susanf8
Are you talking about buildup around the stoma? Inside the pouch sealand apparatus?
If that’s what you’re dealing with, using a combo of the M9 and the adapt lubricant works up to a point. But you gotta get it in the pouch first.
I keep squirt bottles like empty deodorizer bottles on the back of the commode. I use those to put water inside the pouch. I alsodon’t squeeze the poop out out like toothpaste. I try to just help it out the best I can, let gravity do as much as possible.
So once I get out all I can that way, I squirt four or five good gentlesquirts of water inside the pouch, let the first fold take hold at the outlet so it doesn’t purge until you are ready. Holding the outlet up a little bit, rinse the bag out. It’s a little tricky, but it sure does help. I’ll do this two or three times working my way up to where the stoma enters the pouch apparatus.
I’ve been doing it for about a month now with great success other than a couple of messes around the commode as I still have neuropathy a bit it makes it easy to be a fumble fingers.
But when you do it right and you don’t make a mess, it only takes a dab of toilet paper to clean it up at the closure.
A tiny bit of each deodorizer liquids and it is a great failing to be cleaned out top to bottom.
It has no effect on the seal. It’s just water.

@pidge32 it sounds like adding the deodorant solution is working. Since you do have to drain multiple times a day, having a closed pouch wouldn't make that much sense.

It's always good to look for something that works better, but for now it sounds like you have a working solution?

@susanf8
The longest I can get by without a leak is three days any longer and I have a problem.
This all began when the surgeon did the second surgery due to a prolapse on the other half of my intestine. It pushed through the stoma hole and caused a problem. The surgeon removed about 9” of intestine and sewed it to the stoma intestine. I have a little gully now in with my stoma intestine and the leak emanates from that intestine. Tried everything and also working with the WOCN. It looks like I’m doomed to changing every 3 days.
As far as the back up problem I have to make sure I use the deodorant liquid every time I drain and that helps. Makes things a little watery but at least it’s moving down.

@pidge32 I'm sorry to hear that you are not getting the wear time you would like. I change every four days, but sometimes it's every three days. I know some people get a lot longer wear time, but I am never going to be one of them.

The main thing is if it is predictable. If you can change every three days and not experience leaks, then that sounds like a good result.

@susanf8
Are you talking about buildup around the stoma? Inside the pouch sealand apparatus?
If that’s what you’re dealing with, using a combo of the M9 and the adapt lubricant works up to a point. But you gotta get it in the pouch first.
I keep squirt bottles like empty deodorizer bottles on the back of the commode. I use those to put water inside the pouch. I alsodon’t squeeze the poop out out like toothpaste. I try to just help it out the best I can, let gravity do as much as possible.
So once I get out all I can that way, I squirt four or five good gentlesquirts of water inside the pouch, let the first fold take hold at the outlet so it doesn’t purge until you are ready. Holding the outlet up a little bit, rinse the bag out. It’s a little tricky, but it sure does help. I’ll do this two or three times working my way up to where the stoma enters the pouch apparatus.
I’ve been doing it for about a month now with great success other than a couple of messes around the commode as I still have neuropathy a bit it makes it easy to be a fumble fingers.
But when you do it right and you don’t make a mess, it only takes a dab of toilet paper to clean it up at the closure.
A tiny bit of each deodorizer liquids and it is a great failing to be cleaned out top to bottom.
It has no effect on the seal. It’s just water.

@charlescarnohan
Thank you.
What is M9. Can’t remember of ever hearing of it.

@susanf8
You’re right Susan. I guess I was acting kind of greedy wanting more. I’m certainly better off than I was.
Thanks for putting things into perspective.

@charlescarnohan
Thank you.
What is M9. Can’t remember of ever hearing of it.