Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) Surgery Options

Posted by wpasternak @wpasternak, Aug 4, 2020

I had a Urolift procedure last February for my BPH symptoms and it was a total failure. The implants are still in position though. I am looking for a different procedure to alleviate my BPH problem and Rezum seems to be a good alternative. Can it be done considering my prior Urolift procedure. If not, what would be your recommendation.

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@mandarin007
I just had a highly successful Holep on 19 June. Totally painless and uneventful recovery in my 6th week. But I would NOT recommend Holep for a 42YO because men at this age would still be likely be fathering children. Holep is best for those who are past fathering children because male fertility is 99% compromised. There is a modified Holep called “Part Holep” where the bladder neck tissue is left intact, to reduce the occurrence of retrograde ejaculation.

For a young man your age, I would recommend in this order:

1. P.A.E. (Prostate Artery Embolization - no prostate tissue removed, no risk of fertility loss from retrograde ejaculation

2. Aquablattion

Discuss with your urologist these 2 procedures. There is another new procedure (OPTILUME BPH) I came across today that is guaranteed NOT to compromise male fertility.: https://www.gaurology.com/optilume-bph/

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@heath2026 Aside from the poster’s age, might HoLEP be favored over aquablation due to the size of his prostate?

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@heath2026 Thanks for the info. At 73 I am going for the aqublation.

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@psblin99 May I ask why you’ve opted for aquablation over HoLEP? My urologist recommended both, but favored HoLEP. FWIW, I’m 74, and my prostate is 124/133 grams.

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@psblin99 May I ask why you’ve opted for aquablation over HoLEP? My urologist recommended both, but favored HoLEP. FWIW, I’m 74, and my prostate is 124/133 grams.

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@amishboy51 To be honest I realize at 73 technology is leaving me behind. The decision was difficult. I guess Aqublation won because a robotic computer does it.

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@mandarin007 I’m sorry for your issues. Any info as to why the Finasteride and tamsulosin weren't effective?

I ask because I’m 74, and my prostate is 124/133 grams. I’ve been on first Tamsulosin and now Alfuzosin for about four years. All was going well until I had general anesthesia during a routine outpatient surgery three months ago, which caused (post-operative) urinary retention.

I was too big a weenie to do self-catheterization, so instead had an indwelling catheter. After eight (yes) weeks of voiding trials (catheter out, catheter in), my doctor recommended HoLEP. Since I couldn’t get an appointment with the recommended surgeon for over a month, and I thought I was feeling some bladder sensation, I requested one more voiding trial. The following week, my bladder voided, with minimal retention.

I scheduled an appointment for a “second opinion” with another surgeon (who was able to see me sooner), & he endorsed a trial of finasteride, with no surgery unless & until I had another episode of retention.

Your situation at 42 might be completely different, but FWIW, I thought I’d share my experience. Good luck!

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@amishboy51
Thanks for your response.
My prostate is mildly enlarged at 27cc but with 1 cm intravesical extension. Bladder: Mild trabeculation. Results from cystoscopy last year. Have been taking finasteride for past 8 months but haven't seen any effect.

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@heath2026 Aside from the poster’s age, might HoLEP be favored over aquablation due to the size of his prostate?

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@amishboy51

Technology and Technique

Aquablation: Employs a high-velocity, heat-free water jet guided by real-time ultrasound and robotic programming to remove obstructing prostate tissue.

HoLEP (Holmium Laser Enucleation of the Prostate): Uses laser energy to meticulously peel (enucleate) the entire inner adenoma block from the surgical capsule, akin to peeling an orange.

Sexual Function and Ejaculation
Aquablation: Superior rates of preserving antegrade (normal) ejaculation because the heat-free mechanism and robotic mapping protect the vital structures and ducts near the verumontanum.

HoLEP: Carries a significantly higher risk of retrograde ejaculation (dry orgasm) or loss of normal ejaculation due to the complete sweep of tissue at the bladder neck.

Efficacy and Prostate Size
Aquablation: Highly predictable and effective for small-to-very-large prostates, though extremely massive glands (>150 ml) can sometimes carry higher retreatment considerations depending on study parameters.

HoLEP: Considered the ultimate size-independent "gold standard" for massive prostates, completely clearing out tissue so that regrowth or secondary operations are exceptionally rare (<2%)

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Tissue-Removing Surgical OptionsTURP (Transurethral Resection of the Prostate): Cuts away excess prostate tissue blocking the urine path.GreenLight Laser: Melts and vaporizes the blocked tissue and can remove previous UroLift metal clips.HoLEP: Uses a laser to precisely shell out and remove large amounts of obstructive prostate tissue.Minimally Invasive OptionsAquablation: Uses a robot-controlled water jet to remove tissue, safely performed even after prior UroLift.Rezūm Therapy: Uses water vapor (steam) to shrink extra prostate tissue if the gland size is still appropriate.

DO NOT : TURP and Greenlight.
Why? TURP, by 2026 standards is BARBARIC, painful, and relatively longer recovery-very old school technology with high bleeding - unsuitable for those on blood thinners.
GREENLIGHT: Outdated. I had Greenlight in 2012. Easy procedure, Went home same day, no catheter. But prostate will REGROW, so I had HOLEP on June 19 this year. Finishing week 6 of recovery. BEEN 100% PAIN FREE AND TEXT BOOK RECOVERY.

Whatever you do, stay away from outdated TURP and even Greenlight has been superseded by more advanced procedures. TURP is still around because it is a simple, unsophisticated procedure taught to all medical students. It is a very cheap procedure that does not require expensive modern equipment.

HOLEP was in its infancy in 2012 when I had Greenlight. In 2026, HOLEP is arguably the new GOLD STANDARD. But it requires very expensive robotics equipment, and urologists have a steep learning curve to master this technique. My urologist on June 19 this year, is one such GENIUS.

See attachment below: I submitted a summary report to the urologist, of my textbook recovery, over 5 weeks since my Holep on June 19.

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Post Holep Tracker 2026 HT (Post-Holep-Tracker-2026-HT-1.pdf)

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@psblin99 May I ask why you’ve opted for aquablation over HoLEP? My urologist recommended both, but favored HoLEP. FWIW, I’m 74, and my prostate is 124/133 grams.

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@amishboy51

One factor that can determine choice of procedure is whether patient is on blood thinners. Ask your doctor. I had to stop my blood thinners for a total of 10 days, starting, 5 days before procedure then another 5 days after procedure.

When I had Greenlight in 2012, I wasn’t yet on blood thinners.
Since having Holep, on June 19, I have resumed running, on July 17( 4 week ban on exercise post Holep) with NO side effects - no bleeding. No wetting of pants.

Whatever you do, stay away from TURP, or even Greenlight. TURP is old school method, very cheap requiring no special equipment, and taught in medical school. All other methods like Holep, Aquablation, Rezum, etc require extensive training for already qualified doctors/ urologists to master. Holep, for example require very expensive, advanced robotic equipment for the surgeon to perform it. Not taught in the basic medical degree. Practising surgeons have to learn it.

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I think that the first procedure that should be considered is the prostate artery embolization. It is performed by an interventional radiologist…not a urologist. Which is probably why the urologist does not recommend it.

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@amishboy51

One factor that can determine choice of procedure is whether patient is on blood thinners. Ask your doctor. I had to stop my blood thinners for a total of 10 days, starting, 5 days before procedure then another 5 days after procedure.

When I had Greenlight in 2012, I wasn’t yet on blood thinners.
Since having Holep, on June 19, I have resumed running, on July 17( 4 week ban on exercise post Holep) with NO side effects - no bleeding. No wetting of pants.

Whatever you do, stay away from TURP, or even Greenlight. TURP is old school method, very cheap requiring no special equipment, and taught in medical school. All other methods like Holep, Aquablation, Rezum, etc require extensive training for already qualified doctors/ urologists to master. Holep, for example require very expensive, advanced robotic equipment for the surgeon to perform it. Not taught in the basic medical degree. Practising surgeons have to learn it.

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@heath2026 Thank you for your very informative replies. At the moment, I've recently started on Finasteride, which hopefully will make surgery unnecessary. However, as I've said, my urologist in South Florida only referenced aquablation and HoLEP, never mentioned Greenlight, TURP, or Urolift (in fact, he didn't even mention PAE until I, alerted by a friend, inquired about it).

Regardless, thanks for sharing, and best wishes for continued good health!

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@psblin99 Forget Greenlight. It is “outdated”in 2026. Holep is superior. I had Greenlight in 2012, but the prostate kept growing back, and hence I had Holep on June 19 this year. Painless and uneventful recovery. This is my 6th week, and from 4th week, I have returned to running after a 4 week ban, and today was my first day NOT wearing Depend! The most amazing aspect of Holep is totally pain free and blood free in the weeks after it. But I wouldn’t recommend Holep or Aquablation to younger men who are still fathering children. PAE and OPTILUME BPH are the only two prostate reduction procedures that can guarantee preservation of male fertility, hence ideal for men well below 50.

Between Holep, and Aquablation, the risk of retrograde ejaculation (male fertility loss) is about the same, and reading the experiences of those who had Aquablation, I can say my Holep experience is far less painful and easier, for the same risk of loss of male fertility.

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@heath2026 Greenlight may not be state of the art today, but I had it in 2005 and no issues since.

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