RLS my living nightmare!

Posted by shiner58 @shiner58, Jun 1 3:49am

What else can I do? I’ve struggled with RLS since I was a kid. It’s got increasingly worse over the last 10 years. I’m 68 non drinker, non smoker, and no recreational drugs. I’m on gabapentin and Ropinirole at the present time. I also have a sleep apnea machine monitor by a Neurologist specialist. I cannot take iron because it causes a severe constipation in my body even if I take it along with magnesium. Magnesium worked in the beginning, but doesn’t work anymore. These last two months have been a living nightmare for me. I am literally up all night long. I have to stand to get relieve. I’m wearing down emotionally and mentally. I’m taking the max dose of Ropinirole now and the only thing that seems to give relief is taking more of it or more gabapentin which my doctor advised me not to do. I walk my neighborhood in the middle of the night so I don’t have to just stand. Deep massage rarely works. Sometimes deep heat will work, but only while I have the deep heat meaning if I stand in the shower, sit in a hot tub full of water I’m beginning to be super sensitive to air conditioning. I have lost 85 pounds this past year while taking Zepbound that was prescribed to help with the restless leg and even though I’ve lost that weight, the restless leg has not gone away. I’m curious if anyone has found a diet or any natural remedies that help? Hot tubs or sauna? Compression pants?

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I too have RLS and PILM but not as severe as some people. I started taking high doses of Vitamin D3 which worked great for the RLS and once I found that worked, I slowly reduced the dosage to 2000 MG at night.

The PILM is triggered by Benydryl, Ambien and like medications. For that I am prescribed 100 MGs Gabapentin but I try to avoid the triggers as I feel the Gabapentin makes me unsteady on my feet.

My mother had severe RLS and had to stand or walk around to get relief. I think maybe the Vitamin D3 is keeping the RLS under control. It's pretty benign so I hope you give it a try and see if it at least eases your symptoms. I started with 40,000 mgs and reduced to 20,000.

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I too have RLS and PILM but not as severe as some people. I started taking high doses of Vitamin D3 which worked great for the RLS and once I found that worked, I slowly reduced the dosage to 2000 MG at night.

The PILM is triggered by Benydryl, Ambien and like medications. For that I am prescribed 100 MGs Gabapentin but I try to avoid the triggers as I feel the Gabapentin makes me unsteady on my feet.

My mother had severe RLS and had to stand or walk around to get relief. I think maybe the Vitamin D3 is keeping the RLS under control. It's pretty benign so I hope you give it a try and see if it at least eases your symptoms. I started with 40,000 mgs and reduced to 20,000.

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@degarden_girl Actually, Vit.D-3 is not benign. Too much can actually cause problems. Vit D3 works with calcium throughout the body and too much calcium can cause major problems.
From Google:
Upper Limit: The tolerable upper limit for daily supplementation without medical supervision is typically 4,000 IU for most adults.Primary SourcesSunlight: The most natural way to get D3 is through safe, unprotected UVB exposure, though factors like geographic location, skin tone, and sunscreen use can limit production.Food: Naturally occurring sources are limited but include fatty fish (like salmon and mackerel), fish liver oils, and egg yolks.Supplements: Because food and sunlight are often insufficient, D3 supplements (often derived from lanolin or lichen) are widely used.Health Benefits & RisksBone & Muscle Health: Prevents brittle bones and rickets/osteomalacia by promoting the gut's absorption of calcium and phosphorus.Immunity: Vitamin D receptors are found in virtually all tissues, and the vitamin plays a vital role in modulating immune function and reducing inflammation._Risk of too much: Taking excessively high doses (routinely >10,000 IU daily) can lead to vitamin D toxicity, causing a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which may lead to nausea, weakness, and kidney issues.
Your doctor may have OK’d your high doses of D-3, but I don’t want everyone to think it’s OK without a doctor’s knowledge and agreement

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I have had RLS for 25 years or so and am on 4 mg Ropinirole and 600 mg Gabapentin at night. If that doesn't work I take more Gabapentin and if that doesn't work I take another Ropinirole and if that doesn't work I take a pain pill, Hydrocodone 10 mg usually knocks it out. I've even been known to hit my legs with something so make them hurt instead of the horrible RLS feeling. That seems to break the spell as well. Sounds extreme but you do what you need to do to make it stop.

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I just heard that RLS is connected to Vit. D defency. Please get yourself tested.

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I just heard that RLS is connected to Vit. D defency. Please get yourself tested.

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I have always had a Ferritin level drawn as it's Iron level that needs to be a little higher than a normal dose. Vit. D helps in many ways but I hadn't heard it with RLS. I've always been on a good dose of Vit D for RA and for my bones. Still had RLS. Wondering where you heard this? Maybe new research?

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Sadly, I can't recall where I read this but I know it was a reliable source or I wouldn't have mentioned it. My husband has RLS and I am seeing that he takes 5000 units a day. (Researchers followed people for 7 yrs and saw no harm done.) I will report on his progress as he has just started.

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@degarden_girl Actually, Vit.D-3 is not benign. Too much can actually cause problems. Vit D3 works with calcium throughout the body and too much calcium can cause major problems.
From Google:
Upper Limit: The tolerable upper limit for daily supplementation without medical supervision is typically 4,000 IU for most adults.Primary SourcesSunlight: The most natural way to get D3 is through safe, unprotected UVB exposure, though factors like geographic location, skin tone, and sunscreen use can limit production.Food: Naturally occurring sources are limited but include fatty fish (like salmon and mackerel), fish liver oils, and egg yolks.Supplements: Because food and sunlight are often insufficient, D3 supplements (often derived from lanolin or lichen) are widely used.Health Benefits & RisksBone & Muscle Health: Prevents brittle bones and rickets/osteomalacia by promoting the gut's absorption of calcium and phosphorus.Immunity: Vitamin D receptors are found in virtually all tissues, and the vitamin plays a vital role in modulating immune function and reducing inflammation._Risk of too much: Taking excessively high doses (routinely >10,000 IU daily) can lead to vitamin D toxicity, causing a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which may lead to nausea, weakness, and kidney issues.
Your doctor may have OK’d your high doses of D-3, but I don’t want everyone to think it’s OK without a doctor’s knowledge and agreement

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@becsbuddy Thank you for clarifying this information. I did consult my doctor and never exceeded 4000 IUs of Vit D3 and I only took that for a couple of nights as once I found it worked, I reduced the dosage to 3000 per night and then to 2000 per night. In my original post I incorrectly listed the dosages I was taking.

I should have been more accurate and more specific in my message.

Donna

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The VA has prescribed Ropinirole HCL, which I believe works well for me, most of the time. The VA also prescribed a device call Nidra which is a band that is place directly below the knee, and provide an electric stimulus to the muscle and nerves of the leg and foot. I have had spasms and cramps starting in my feet and legs and this device after 30 minutes stops it. I hope someone can benefit from my experience.

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Hi Jim,
I see you were prescribed Nidra by the VA. I am in the process of applying to get Nidra. Does the VA pay for it, or do you have other insurance? I am excite hoping to hear that it works well for you, and am hoping to get one. Thanks for posting about it.
@gail4

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