Pulmonary Rehabilitation - quality of program
I would like to know about the experience of others. Especially if they are on oxygen. Did they have a daily progress report? Were they taught breathing before exercise? Were they given a special exercise program designed for them?
I was interested in developing better breathing techniques since I am oxygen dependent for exertion and sleep, have pulmonary fibrosis and a little pulmonary hypertension and I have a cardiac stent. So I signed up for pulmonary rehabilitation
I am wondering how exactly PR should flow since my experience seems strange......I am having doubts about the quality of this program because of my experience on two visits.
1) For the evaluation, the person insisted on taking my blood pressure over a heavy bulky sweatshirt. She said as long as she could hear my pulse it was OK....I know that is not the recommended way to do it and I offered to slip my arm out, but she said no.
2) They told me my first time, someone would teach me the exercises. After there is a class.
I went and someone (not RRT) came, she had my file but did not take my O2 or blood pressure before or after. No progress report is posted on MyChart.
There were no instructions, no warmup exercises no cool down exercise after nor any information on breathing techniques before starting.
She just gave me oxygen tank set at my prescription of 2 L, put an oximeter on my finger, and put me on treadmill and told me to go as fast as I could. She waited for the oximeter to stabilize then walked away and came back 5 + min later and my O2 was under 88. So she said "guess we should bump it up" and she set it at 4L
After she asked me what I wanted to do weights or rowing etc. I did sitting, moving arms and feet - she went away for 5 min and then came back and said oh should lower O2 setting back to 2L
I asked two questions 1)I have pulmonary fibrosis with a stiff chest, should I take off my bra during exercise - she said we should ask the respiratory therapist when she gets back from vacation
2) since I am breathless when I bend over, I asked if I could even do the rowing machine since that would cut off my breathing....she did not know
I am wondering if I should stop going.
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Find a different setting. Mine takes. BP, pO2, and pulse at beginning and pulse at the end. We were taught how to set the equipment then to use each for 10 minutes. If settings were to high she adjusts it individually, if 10 minutes isn't doable do what you can. Education is a part of each session.
By law regulation they have to check vitals in order to get paid by insurance company. Report this to the insurance company.
@denzie Agreed, my idea was to switch and ask questions first. I left a message for site "manager" who did get back to me so I told him my issues. He set me up with an appointment with the Respiratory Therapist to go over my plan and monitor my O2 on the machines .... I told them I expect a written plan, and daily progress reports and careful monitoring and coaching on breathing exercises. I already know how to use exercise equipment!. For people with lung / oxygen issues it is important to track O2 over time. I am always on the alert for worsening pulmonary fibrosis - right now I am fortunate because it is stable. But the fibrosis limits my options to treat the lung cancer so I require serious exercise plan as I need my lungs as good as I can keep them . I also sent an email to their Patient Relations who called me the next day after I had spoken to the site manager. They said let them know if I need something. If you don't speak up, things don't change by themselves. That is what they mean in by being your own advocate in healthcare!
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4 Reactions@vic83 much respect for you and your advocacy. I'm doing Pulm rehab for the 3d time in 10 years. I've never seen anything as sloppy as the program you described. I hope others read this and learn from you.
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1 Reaction@vic83 It’s been about a month since you posted some real concerns about the pulmonary rehab program you were in. Did you stick it out? And did the program make some changes to be more helpful and appropriate for your needs?
@ckscoville Yes, I reported my experience to Patience Experience and they called me. But after the Respiratory Therapist returned and has been working with me. What I did was go in with my own progress report format for them to fill out. I built it based on ChatGpt suggestions. I will post it later
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3 ReactionsHi. I am glad I found this discussion as I have some of the same concerns.
I went for an intake appointment for Respiratory therapy and it was not what I expected. I know how to use a treadmill, stepper and free weights. I wanted to learn breathing techniques and hopefully expand my lung capacity following a chemical burn from chlorine inhalation.
I will ask for the Respiratory Therapist when I go for my first session and ask about a written plan and progress reports. Thanks for the tips. Lynn
Here is the Progress Report I take with me to Pulmonary Rehab (I used ChatGPT to create)
Pulmonary Rehab Tracking Template
1. Patient Baseline (first page – filled once)
• Diagnosis (e.g., pulmonary fibrosis, COPD, post-SBRT pneumonitis)
• Oxygen use:
o At rest: ___ L/min
o With exertion: ___ L/min
• Baseline vitals:
o Resting SpO₂:
o HR:
o BP:
• Functional status:
o 6-minute walk distance (if available)
o Dyspnea scale (e.g., Borg baseline)
________________________________________
📋 2. Daily Session Log (core of the program)
A. Pre-Exercise
• Date:
• Resting SpO₂:
• Heart Rate:
• Blood Pressure:
• Oxygen (L/min):
• Symptoms (circle/check):
o SOB / fatigue / cough / chest pain / dizziness
• Borg Dyspnea Score (0–10):
• Borg Fatigue Score (0–10):
________________________________________
B. Exercise Details
Activity Duration Intensity SpO₂ (lowest) HR (peak) Oxygen (L/min) Symptoms
Treadmill / Walk ___ min speed/incline ___% ___ ___ ___
Bike ___ min resistance ___% ___ ___ ___
Strength ___ reps weight — ___ ___ ___
Breathing exercises ___ min type — — ___ —
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C. During/Peak Response
• Lowest SpO₂:
• Peak HR:
• Max Borg Dyspnea:
• Any desaturation < 88%? Y/N
• Recovery time to baseline:
________________________________________
D. Post-Exercise
• SpO₂:
• HR:
• Symptoms:
• Patient tolerance:
o Good / Moderate / Poor
________________________________________
📘 3. Education Tracking
Date Topic Instructor Patient Understanding (1–5) Notes
Breathing techniques (pursed lip, diaphragmatic)
Energy conservation
Oxygen safety
Medication use
Exacerbation recognition
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🧠 4. Home Program / Compliance
Date Activity Done Duration O2 Used Symptoms Comments
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📈 5. Weekly Summary (critical for decision-making)
• Average exercise duration:
• Trend in SpO₂ (stable / declining / improving):
• Oxygen needs (same / increased / decreased):
• Dyspnea trend:
• Functional improvement:
• Any red flags:
o ☐ Increasing oxygen requirement
o ☐ More frequent desaturation
o ☐ Reduced tolerance
o ☐ New symptoms
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⚠️ 6. Red Flag Tracking
Track separately if present:
• Desaturation < 88% despite oxygen
• Increasing disease symptoms
• Chest pain
• Hemoptysis
• Rapid drop in exercise tolerance
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🧾 7. Staff Documentation (quality control)
• Who supervised session:
o RT / RRT / PT / RN
• Was physician available? Y/N
• Any protocol deviations?
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💡 What Makes a “Good” Pulmonary Rehab Log (Expert Level)
The log should allow you to detect:
• Subtle oxygen creep upward over weeks
• Earlier desaturation during exercise
• Decline in recovery time
• Increasing Borg dyspnea at same workload
Those are often the earliest warning signs of progression or treatment toxicity—well before CT changes.
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@lynn611 I posted my report format which one can adjust. I am on oxygen so it is really important for me to track my oxygen levels at various points.