Demoralization or Depression?

@lacy2 My daughter and I both react to shots you get at dentist. We get shaky,anxious and lightheaded. My dentist at the time said many people do that reaction.He has to adjust the dose.
I get trembling inside mostly when I wake up. Also Adrenalin rushes.
I found appointment with a pharmacist at my doctors office very useful. Also natural remedies.

Brenda, many of the dental products, shots etc, contain epinephrine. One of my dentists years ago noticed my reaction, pale, heart races, feel jittery etc.[plus the examples you gave] and mentioned it to me. He quit using products that contained "epi" on me. He retired as has another dentist and some have just moved to other areas. I tell them all I have an adverse reaction to epi. I am not allergic but can definitely feel when it is there. Because I don't use products with epi, it takes longer to get numb and wears off faster. Not as convenient for the dentist. Unfortunately I've had to have lots of dental work.

@crabby55 Thank you for posting about Epinephrine.I‘ll remember that when I find a new dentist.
I want a dentist who is good with older people. I have a hard time turning my head to one side for treatment due to occipital neuralgia. Also Zenker derviticulum ,small bulge in throat,makes it hard to swallow. It would be difficult to swallow all the water collecting in your throat while they drill.
Thanks for reading my rambling

After reading this I think I have demoralization.It all makes sense.
I have told many doctors I didn’t have depression because there are certain times I can laugh,and enjoy things.
The treatment of nasty doctors when I was a child in England set me up for this I think. The doctors there back in the late 40’s and early 50’s were cruel,and would smack children and shout them. Parents couldn’t say a word. They were too scared. Treated doctors and teachers like Gods.Of course they went through the same thing. My mother suffered with anxiety and depression or was it demoralization?

Great post. I like the 'demoralizationn' concept - exactly how I feel, rather than depression. I have had several years of depression with fairly good results but 'demoralization' makes it easier to understand. I'm not depressed all the time but never saw a way out. Using the idea of demoralization it gives me a sense of hopefulness - knowing it will pass. Does this make sense?

@crabby55 A good dentist is important. I had some work done last week, the first in quite some time (I fortunately inherited my dad's teeth, not my mom's [although I did get her joints which is another story]). For the first time ever in my experience, the technician told me that I could possibly experience heart racing or palpitations, and monitored me after the initial injection before continuing. I've never had an adverse reaction (which I told her) and didn't this time either, but it's a dentist I only recently began seeing, and I felt like I was in really good hands. She put my safety first. It meant a lot to me.

I suspect dentists are getting more alert to what can happen, but patients still need to advocate for themselves when getting work done. I had a severe reaction to an anesthetic once, and with all the times I've had to be put under because of those joint problems, I've learned the importance of letting all providers regardless of their field know about any past troubles with any medications. One orthopedist tried to argue with me because the anesthetic is so commonly used, and I had to put my foot down and say no. They used an alternate mix, I was out for the duration, and recovered without difficulty.

@brenda1944 hi just found my old post and read comments... I was in UK too born 1943 and scared stiff of famiy doctor and the school nurse. Mum took me in to see Dr.Haytden Ihad a very very sore fingertip and it was white, I may have been 7... he took out a folding knife held my finger and cut the white end off! No prep etc. Even my Mum was shocked. However, never got it back he said a Whitlow? At school the teachers would hit boys knuckles with ruler if they were talking etc.... My Mum born during ww1 and had us duirng ww2 and never compalined but looking back I would say she was anxious, just didnt show it to we kids. Now I am 82 and memories and illnesses I sometimes wonder if I just had a broken heart.

When I hear people say what worked for them and others saying nothing works for them. I want to say; Isn't it obvious that we all want to feel better, that some are able to for whatever reason, others cannot seem to get better? Is it because some have had more severe trauma or is it that some were never even taught that they are worth anything when they were infants and their mind was forming? I am not able to move forward at all, medication, exercise, meditation, positive affirmations, therapy....does it mean I am not trying or does it mean that my life experiences have formed my mind in such a way that I will never get better? This is my frustration when reading self help or these chats, why am I not getting it and others who have lots of issues are writing in here positive things? I can think of nothing positive at times.

@brenda1944 ...born during war in uk 1943 .. another word: anxiety. I know I was born anxious! I will attest to the mean-ness of both doctors and teachers. We were frightened and intimidated by both. However now many teachers dare not look twice at a pupil and family drs,. at least here are overworked. Yep when i was about 8 got the cane across hand cos anotehr child and i spoke to the workmen working in playgrounds when we had been told not to: do that today and probably the school would be sued.

@southcarolinagirl
Demoralization, I feel like that could be more my issue then the depression. I never heard of the word being with depression or really the definition.Thank you for the information and I pray answers are found for all of us