Ladies: How are you managing vaginal atrophy as you age?

Posted by HomeAgainLA @llynch17056, Sep 21, 2023

TO THE LADIES ONLY: As I got older I started developing vaginal atrophy. Then I started developing open splits on my labia that were extremely painful. I went to urgent care one weekend and was prescribed vaginal estrogen medicine. It did the trick but I didn’t want to use estrogen. I went to a GYN that recommending organic coconut oil to use externally only. This was a few years ago and it has worked perfectly. I have never had another problem. At all. I wanted to pass along a natural inexpensive solution to vaginal atrophy.

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I had a hysterectomy at 38 and the prevailing wisdom then was NO HORMONES!! So… skip forward twenty years and a divorce later and I am having icky discharge that - after I finally was referred to a young genito-urinary doc - and the discharge was diagnosed as dead cells sloughing off. Eeew -right??

I went on estradiol suppositories twice a week. Problem solved. I am a further 20 years down the road now and have weaned off the suppositories as well.

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Of course. I sometimes agree to a medication when necessary and there are no other options. In the case of vaginal atrophy, I used estogen for a short time and accepted the risks, but then I found that coconut oil worked with no risk. So, then I went for the no risk.

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@llynch17056 If you are on Instagram or Youtube, please listen to Kelly Casperson, MD, a urologist and menopause specialist. She has all of the citings and medical journal studies to prove that vaginal estrogen does not cause cancer. The CDC has recently (last couple of months), taken the Black Box Warning label off of Estradiol Vaginal cream 0.01% ( which is the standard for pre and post-menopausal women suffering from vaginal and vulvar dryness and irritation).
Our loss of estrogen after menopause does not just affect our vaginal and vulvar mucosa, but greatly affects our urinary health (UTIs and urinary frequency and urgency). Even if you don't notice any of these urologic symptoms right now, and are just dealing with vaginal dryness (which I am happy for you that the coconut oil helps!), eventually, down the line, your long term lack of estrogen in your menopausal body will affect your urinary system. Just a fact of life. Better to be preventative I feel.

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My doctor prescribed 1/2 gram 3 times a week.

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@jmfaith That's what I do. I started with 2x week and I found 3x week much better. No dryness at all anymore and I am 70 and I have never had a UTI, or any urinary issues. What we need to remember is that vaginal estradiol is not jus for our vaginas, but the cream also gets absorbed by our urinary/bladder area (not sure exactly how - but I do believe perhaps our vagina and bladder perhaps share a wall in there? 😀

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That has been my solution, too. I do yoga.

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@llynch17056 Yoga is excellent. I am an avid Pilates fan 3-4x a week. Highly recommend for core strength and pelvic floor health.

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Any other info to share?
Painful to avoid tears…

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@kaym24 Please don't agree to sex when it causes pain and tears! iI is supposed to be mutually satisfying!! (said with love and concern.....)

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Greetings, ladies:
There is a reason to use an estrogen-containing vaginal creme. The decreased level of estrogen we have after menopause can cause several difficulties, both vaginal dryness and loss of muscle strength and flexibility. The estrogen in the cream improves the muscle strength and flexibility, which in turn can yield greater urinary control. I don't think an oil or a cream which does not contain estrogen can treat the urinary symptoms. An estrogen containing cream contains a very low concentration of estrogen.

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@joanland Yes, yes and yes! This is Jan 2025 and the CDC recently has removed the Black Box warning from vaginal estradiol cream. It is safe to use for vaginal, vulvar and urinary health. We no longer produce estrogen sisters! Let's at least give these tissues and organs some relief!

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I’m so grateful that organic coconut oil works perfectly for me. Cheap, safe and effective.

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@llynch17056 But, unfortunately, it does not help the loss of estrogen in our bladder/urinary tissues/organs. One may not have any urinary/bladder problems after menopause..... yet......but the loss of estrogen extends to these organs/tissues as well. At some point down the line problems most certainly could arise in these areas. One could have proactively been inserting vaginal estrogen cream (safely), and avoided this unnecessary eventuality. Quite a few women refuse to go on low dose hrt because they say they "have no symptoms". They don't realize what is silently going on undetected inside their bodies with no estrogen. I certainly understand people's strong desire to go natural, but at the end of the day, lack of estrogen is still lack of estrogen and the long term effects down the road are not pretty. Isn't it fun being a woman?

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@llynch17056 If you are on Instagram or Youtube, please listen to Kelly Casperson, MD, a urologist and menopause specialist. She has all of the citings and medical journal studies to prove that vaginal estrogen does not cause cancer. The CDC has recently (last couple of months), taken the Black Box Warning label off of Estradiol Vaginal cream 0.01% ( which is the standard for pre and post-menopausal women suffering from vaginal and vulvar dryness and irritation).
Our loss of estrogen after menopause does not just affect our vaginal and vulvar mucosa, but greatly affects our urinary health (UTIs and urinary frequency and urgency). Even if you don't notice any of these urologic symptoms right now, and are just dealing with vaginal dryness (which I am happy for you that the coconut oil helps!), eventually, down the line, your long term lack of estrogen in your menopausal body will affect your urinary system. Just a fact of life. Better to be preventative I feel.

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@beanlisa56 Thanks. I’m sticking with my GYN’s advice not to use hormones or hormone creams. The coconut oil works great. It’s easy and cheap. There was a time when we all got hormone treatment post hysterectomy. Then we were told to immediately stop it (I had taken it for many years when told to STOP). Who knows what they’ll say in the future? My GYN went to prestigious schools, she is young and cutting edge. She said not to. I’m going with her.

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@llynch17056 But, unfortunately, it does not help the loss of estrogen in our bladder/urinary tissues/organs. One may not have any urinary/bladder problems after menopause..... yet......but the loss of estrogen extends to these organs/tissues as well. At some point down the line problems most certainly could arise in these areas. One could have proactively been inserting vaginal estrogen cream (safely), and avoided this unnecessary eventuality. Quite a few women refuse to go on low dose hrt because they say they "have no symptoms". They don't realize what is silently going on undetected inside their bodies with no estrogen. I certainly understand people's strong desire to go natural, but at the end of the day, lack of estrogen is still lack of estrogen and the long term effects down the road are not pretty. Isn't it fun being a woman?

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@beanlisa56 PS it has been decades since I had a UTI. Perhaps my yoga and clean foods? The coconut oil? I’m sticking with my very smart young GYN to not do hormone creams. I’m sticking with coconut oil. It works and is safe.

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@llynch17056 But, unfortunately, it does not help the loss of estrogen in our bladder/urinary tissues/organs. One may not have any urinary/bladder problems after menopause..... yet......but the loss of estrogen extends to these organs/tissues as well. At some point down the line problems most certainly could arise in these areas. One could have proactively been inserting vaginal estrogen cream (safely), and avoided this unnecessary eventuality. Quite a few women refuse to go on low dose hrt because they say they "have no symptoms". They don't realize what is silently going on undetected inside their bodies with no estrogen. I certainly understand people's strong desire to go natural, but at the end of the day, lack of estrogen is still lack of estrogen and the long term effects down the road are not pretty. Isn't it fun being a woman?

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@beanlisa56 with all due respect, I and my young smart GYN, disagree and consider estrogen creams to pose a threat.

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