96 YO Mother fall questions

Posted by woojr @woojr, 2 days ago

Hello and thank you for reading this message. Mom is in unusually good shape for her age. She's had a few falls over the last five years but has been very fortunate to really only have had some stitches and a couple bruises. She has started to walk with a cane but mostly walks around the house holding on to furniture, walls etc. Most of the house (she lives alone in her home), has no steps or tripping hazards. She stills drives regularly to PT, hairdresser and local store. She's been taking supplements for decades and takes BP and Thyroid meds for about ten years. She has a pacemaker. She cooks and eats a healthy diet. She had a minor stroke over ten years ago with no after effects. She's recently had issues with itching and dry skin and scalp. All in all she's amazing. A couple days ago she called and asked my wife and I to come help her get up from a fall in her kitchen.
We found her sitting on a hard tiled floor without any apparent injuries. There was a chair knocked over and some other things on the floor as she appeared to have been reaching for things. She weighs 97 lbs and it took all had to get her up without hurting her. I asked her what happened and she said she was standing at the table reading the mail and suddenly lost her balance and went straight down without hitting her head or anything else but she couldn't pick her self up. Most of the house is carpeted and a lot has throw rugs. She refuses to remove them. I think she likes the extra padding because she's fallen without having to tell us. I took the opportunity to address a number of falling while alone issues for the hundredth time. In the past I've noticed her balance has been getting worse and she refuses to use on of the several walkers around the house. I could go on about her risky lifestyle but why? Any suggestions to get her to carry one of the many phones at all times? And when should she be in assisted living before she falls and can't get up until I discover her unable to call for help?
Thanks again for reading.

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Profile picture for Rubyslippers @triciaot

My husband and I have multiple older female family members that had falls, and decisions had to be made for their care.
His aunt was moved to independent living, then assisted living. She did not enjoy her final years in those facilities.
His mom fell a few times at home alone, but had neighbors who watched for activity. She slept overnight on the floor after a fall one time, but insisted on staying in her home. Not too long after was diagnosed with lung cancer and passed away while in the hospital.
My mother fell 3 times and was sent to assisted living after rehab, otherwise healthy. She was very unhappy with the limited life there and passed away mainly from loss of interest in life.

Personally, I hope to live on my own until I fall, maybe break a hip, go to the hospital and pass away - potentially in my late 90s. Sure, I could live until over 100 based on family longevity. But I’d be satisfied with 5 less years if it meant being happy!

In my family, my sons are more likely to set up monitoring cameras to track my movements - and I'm fine with them in the larger rooms in the house. If they don’t see me come out of the bedroom all day, or in the kitchen, they’ll know to send someone over to check. If I lay on the floor for some hours, I'm okay with that. We probably all need to decide in advance what we would choose in these situations and let family know.

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@triciaot Again, WOW. I'm so glad I posted this message. Every reply has so much great information. My memory is triggered back to the mid 1990's when my father had a massive heart attack and stroke at 69 YO. He was the picture of health who lived a year and half after the attack. My mother, 67 at the time took care of him. We were busy raising teens and they came first.

Also, I need to check her advance directive to see what she said many years ago about this subject. I'm going to talk to her about it openly as I always do.

About your mother's journey, I've seen friend's parents and my mother in law take a similar path. My mother had a UTI in 2022 and almost died. She called me one evening and we went to see what she was trying to say. When I got there she said never mind, I'm okay. I didn't see any indication she was very ill. I told her "okay, tell me the whole story now". She said her back hurt from PT and blamed the practitioner. Then she said she's been vomiting. I picked her up, went to the ER where she was quickly diagnosed and admitted. If she hadn't called that night the doctor said she'd have died. After a week in the hospital, she went into rehab, then assisted living for six weeks and was in great shape when we brought her home. We've seen other older folks die after short stays in assisted living but also some hung on for years with alzheimers or post strokes.
As far as cameras? I'd have to hide it.
As for me, I have an advanced directive but need to review it. I don't think I'll last very long by myself.
Maybe if we're lucky we'll have personal humanoids soon to help us stay up and in our own houses.

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Profile picture for celia16 @celia16

Once falls begin…..they usually continue and increase in frequency. She probably can’t remember to use a walker or cane and even if she did…..it might not prevent a fall. Assisted Living can’t prevent the falls either, but they can be on hand to immediately assist in her aid if she’s injured or can’t get up.

Several months ago my mom lost her balance and even though standing right at her walker fell onto her side, breaking her right arm, cutting her head, injuring her knee and ankle….(We feel fortunate it wasn’t her hip, because that’s a much harder recovery.) She wasn’t able to move at all. The phone was out of her reach to call 911 or anyone. If I had not been there, she would have laid on the floor indefinitely. She was so scared, I think she might have suffered a cardiac event if she had no help for hours. Keeping the phone within reach 24/7 might not be feasible. I have also heard of seniors who fall who just can’t call for help even if the phone is nearby. Have you checked into Life Alert?

These and other reasons are why imo it’s good to have someone around at all times with a senior who is that advanced in age and who suffers with poor balance and falls. Being more careful usually doesn’t help.

I’d be inclined to stop the driving. A loss of balance while driving could be devastating.

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@celia16 We had experience with Life Alert with my father in law's second wife. She would take it off at times because she didn't like the way it looked. Then we'd get a call. It was funny then. My mother views anything on her face, ears, around her neck as giving in to old age. She was voted the best looking girl in her class (1946). You wouldn't believe the supplements she still buys to enhance her appearance.

Driving's another long story. I'll tell the positive. She's beginning to not go places when she doesn't feel up to it. Like PT. She goes twice a week but lately she's called out a bit. It's been very cold this winter but she gets in the garage and they help her at PT. So far she seems to be making good decisions not to drive.

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Profile picture for verdine @verdine

I’m in 95th year with a history of falls my family brought me to their home so I do not drive. I’m driven.
I do not cook or do laundry because of dizziness and weakness.
I am on 4th pacemaker, heart failure and many other things
I worked until age 77 or 78 trying to be independent but there is a time where you need some care. At 88 yrs I moved with family.
Now your mother has fallen many times from what you wrote.
She should not drive or live alone. If not with you there are lovely Assisted Living centers that are
Wonderful and welcoming.
In fact, I am shopping assisted living centers around me and will be moving in the next 90 days. Why,
I presently have gone up and down 20 steps to my bedroom lovely home but no bathroom or bedroom on 1st floor and I am becoming more frail as I age.
Good luck to you and your mothers visit to move with you or other care.

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@verdine I'm so happy to hear from you. Your approach is so well thought out and sensible. Maybe we can trade? Seriously, you've helped a lot, thank you.

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Profile picture for Mikebiker @mikebiker

Immediately take away her car. A person who is prone to falling for no reason should not endanger herself and others by driving a vehicle and risking losing control when she suddenly 'falls' behind the wheel. She really should not be living alone.

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@mikebiker I tried that a few times. She called the local dealer and bought a new car, drove it to my house, blew the horn until I saw her. She laughed and left. I'd have to take her to court and probably lose since she's recently had her license renewed at the Motor Vehicle Agency. I agree she shouldn't be living alone, but as I write, she's not willing to change. Thanks for your caring.

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Profile picture for woojr @woojr

@mikebiker I tried that a few times. She called the local dealer and bought a new car, drove it to my house, blew the horn until I saw her. She laughed and left. I'd have to take her to court and probably lose since she's recently had her license renewed at the Motor Vehicle Agency. I agree she shouldn't be living alone, but as I write, she's not willing to change. Thanks for your caring.

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@woojr , I’d do whatever it takes to stop the driving. With those circumstances, I suspect others would not consider it safe, including judges, court officials, doctors and DMV if they knew of her balance and falling issues.

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@gently We're seeing the PCP today for another issue but the PCP will be happy to talk about anything. My wife and I were talking last night about whether she may have had a TIA. Her BP spikes every so often and after a routine visit back in Dec, she saw a new cardiologist who changed her BP med. Removed Amlodipine because he feared it might cause BP to drop and hence a fall. We were concerned about the change because we knew she'd spike and need it. Last week she called 911 and went to the ER because her BP hit close to 200 on top number. Of course they gave her Amlodipine and we brought her home a few hours later. The worst part about it was the ER was full of potential flu exposure. My wife has better knowledge about TIA's and I've deferred to her.
Mom has a neighbor next door who can get into her house and is a great, trustworthy fellow. However his job changed and his schedule is tight these days. Thanks so much for caring.

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@woojr, I so like the way you are caring with such respect for your mom. Siri would make her able to call 911 without her phone, but she is already managing the calls. How lucky to inherit that woman's genes. And you've married a good soul. It's so lovely that together you've got all bases covered but are making certain that there isn't anything you haven't thought of. It is a pleasure to read your posts.

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Profile picture for jofree @jofree

Hello woojr,
We had an Aunt who passed recently at the age of 98: She also drove daily for errands up until the day she passed away in her chair peacefully while watching a program. Our cousin purchased a fall alert system which can be worn about the neck or on the wrist of the individual. Perhaps you could talked with her providers and gather information regarding one of these devices.
Be careful regarding over paying for a device; there are many different makes and models. Talk it over with your Mom and get her reaction to the idea. It may be just what she needs.
Jofree

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@jofree
Fall alert necklace worked twice so far. Gotta have on after 90...
My mil. 🙂

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Just to be clear, my mother refuses to carry a phone. She won't carry her cell phone which her plan includes a fall alert app. My mother doesn't believe "it will ever happen to her". This mindset carries on throughout her decision making process with everything.

The worst example was when I disabled her car, she called the dealer and bought a new car. They delivered it and drove to my house, blew the horn, looked at me, smiled, and left. I looked at the process for taking her off the road and got legal advice. She's been pulled over by local police and they let her go. She's had friends killed in accidents near her house and her comments are the same, "It'll never happen to me." That sums it up. People love her just the way she is.

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Profile picture for woojr @woojr

Just to be clear, my mother refuses to carry a phone. She won't carry her cell phone which her plan includes a fall alert app. My mother doesn't believe "it will ever happen to her". This mindset carries on throughout her decision making process with everything.

The worst example was when I disabled her car, she called the dealer and bought a new car. They delivered it and drove to my house, blew the horn, looked at me, smiled, and left. I looked at the process for taking her off the road and got legal advice. She's been pulled over by local police and they let her go. She's had friends killed in accidents near her house and her comments are the same, "It'll never happen to me." That sums it up. People love her just the way she is.

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@woojr "Mom, WHEN.....it happens to you, it will be the first time in you're long and storied life that you've ever proven yourself wrong.'

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Profile picture for gloaming @gloaming

@woojr "Mom, WHEN.....it happens to you, it will be the first time in you're long and storied life that you've ever proven yourself wrong.'

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@gloaming , Mom's already proven herself vulnerable as all of us are. She just has a very "flexible memory." We saw her PCP yesterday regarding a biopsy for a skin itching issue she's had since July. She hasn't followed Drs instructions and has suffered the itching on her back. Instead she bought a creme off the internet because she prefers the seller's advertising to the Dr's advice. The Dr is going to have new bloodwork done but offered my mother may have little or no relief available. It was a little confusing to me but I think her age puts limits on what she could expect. The biopsy showed the cause of her itching was coming from within her body, not externally.
If anyone has experience with this sort of condition, please comment, thank you.

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