Eliquis and AFIB

Posted by lenmayo @lenmayo, Apr 18, 2024

Does anyone who has occasional AFIB not take Eliquis?

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Hardly as knowledgeable as gloaming, as a layman I wondered for what condition were you taking Eliquis, a blood thinner? Is it wise to have been on it at all preceding a “cutting” procedure? And the rule is that only the Eliquis prescriber should say when to stop it. Who was that? I took E. for a full course due to a leg clot. Yes it sucks but the clot disappeared completely in weeks. Might your healed H. have developed a hemorrhage that burst on straining? (Cleveland Clinic). Our 34 YO daughter has AFiB and is recommended and is considering the new Maze procedure. Please get better. We’ll pray for that.

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Profile picture for terrigfield @terrigfield

@windyshores I have the dilemma of wether or not to continue Eliquis. After a routine hemerroidectomy I restarted my Eliquis and 4 days later had severe recital bleeding, requiring a 4 day ICU stay and 3 blood transfusions. No doctereill tell me when to start the Eliquis again I have not been in AFib for 2 years and am trying to figure out what to do! Watchman has been suggested. As for now I will stay off another week til I try to be my own doctor and figure it out!!

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@terrigfield You mention a situation that I have yet to see mentioned in these groups. The process of reversal of Eliqus in an emergency situation. From what I've seen Eliqus is still working 24 hrs after the last dose. What little I have been able to read about the reversal agents available it doesn't sound that readily available and also not that fast acting like the one available for Coumadin. I've gotten to keeping a Quick Clotting kit in my car in hope that I would be able to use it if necessary.

So as good as it is in preventing clots there is another side to it like anything else in life.

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Profile picture for terrigfield @terrigfield

@windyshores I have the dilemma of wether or not to continue Eliquis. After a routine hemerroidectomy I restarted my Eliquis and 4 days later had severe recital bleeding, requiring a 4 day ICU stay and 3 blood transfusions. No doctereill tell me when to start the Eliquis again I have not been in AFib for 2 years and am trying to figure out what to do! Watchman has been suggested. As for now I will stay off another week til I try to be my own doctor and figure it out!!

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Why would you want to take a med that causes severe bleeding??? Not hard to figure out. It is a side effect.

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I had once every 2 years Afib for over 7 years and never took a blood thinner even though I was told to take Eliquis . I finally agreed to Eliquis after my last event. That’s when I found out I was allergic to Eliquis. It’s taken me 8 months to feel 90% better. From just 1 week of Eliquis.
Eliquis jumpstarted a major amount of Afib.
Now I take warfarin instead. The Afib has calmed down to nothing for the last 5 months. Eliquis is ez but it’s not good for everyone like they say.

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RE: the cost of Eliquis, I was paying $100. per month until about a year ago when a generic brand of Apixaban became available. Now it costs $30.00 per mo.
That's for 5mg.x 2 per day. I have Paroxysmal A-fib....I don't even know when or if I'm having episodes. I think mine is caused by a bicuspid aortic valve.

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@justwannasay
the only place you can get apixaban is through foreign pharmacies like Canada.

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Why would you want to take a med that causes severe bleeding??? Not hard to figure out. It is a side effect.

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@lindy9 --

re: Why would you want to take a med that causes severe bleeding???

To keep from having a stroke and ending up in a "care facility" or dying.

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@lindy9 --

re: Why would you want to take a med that causes severe bleeding???

To keep from having a stroke and ending up in a "care facility" or dying.

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and what is your age? what is your diet? do you walk or do mild exercise daily? do you consume foods or drinks or meds with stimulants? Do you have a high sugar and high in dairy, meat? do you eat fresh fruits and veggies daily and whole grains versus refines and processed foods?

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Profile picture for windyshores @windyshores

I don't take any blood thinners at all.

Starting in 2015 I have had afib with very rapid heart rate, once a year, or even had a two year interval. This past year I had one episode in late August 2023, two in early October, and I just had one two nights ago, 4/16, with heart rate peaking around 200.

I am meeting with a new cardiologist at a teaching hospital and am going to ask about the "pill in a pocket" approach meaning short term anticoagulation. Some say a month, some say less time. And there is a lot of difference of opinion on how long it takes to form a clot.

When one of my episodes lasted 7 hours (usually they are 45 minutes to 2 1/2 hours) the hospital did an echocardiogram to check for clots.

A cardiologist pressured me to take a blood thinner back in 2015 and I declined. He later told he he agreed (much later) and that they were "probably" overmedicating people. Then again, my mother had continuous afib and had a stroke when off Coumadin for 5 days.

How often do you have afib?

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@windyshores hi
I was put on Bisoprolol at 2.5 and my rate dropped to 50 , which was quite low
So I cut my pill in half and it stayed at 60 but then all of a sudden one morning my Afib kicked in again . The problem with the meds is causing high anxiety , I’m sure there causing the problem
So I was told to go back to 2.5 , because 50 heart rate was ok, as long as it didn’t drop below that
I don’t feel comfortable with that , I have been on Coumadin for 20 years because of a couple clots , I’m not real sure about being on blood thinners either . I totally agree with you on the blood thinners

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I take Bisoprolol, it really drops heart rate a lot , not sure about it either, it’s a 2.5

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Profile picture for lynlaughlin @lynlaughlin

@windyshores hi
I was put on Bisoprolol at 2.5 and my rate dropped to 50 , which was quite low
So I cut my pill in half and it stayed at 60 but then all of a sudden one morning my Afib kicked in again . The problem with the meds is causing high anxiety , I’m sure there causing the problem
So I was told to go back to 2.5 , because 50 heart rate was ok, as long as it didn’t drop below that
I don’t feel comfortable with that , I have been on Coumadin for 20 years because of a couple clots , I’m not real sure about being on blood thinners either . I totally agree with you on the blood thinners

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Bisoprolol side effects according to Google

Headache, Diarrhea, Dizziness, Nausea, Fatigue, Slow heart rate
Shortness of breath, Xerostomia, Arthralgia, Abnormal heart rhythm
Stuffy or runny nose, Anxiety, Blurred vision, Sexual problems
Cold hands or feet, Confusion, Cough, Depression, Heart failure, Rash
Sore throat, Sweating, Bronchospasm, Chest pain.

Listen to your body. Clean up your diet. Walk or light exercise daily. Stop caffeine and junk food and consuming lots of meat and dairy products. Google the side effects of Coumadin.

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