Aortic root and LAD stenosis

Posted by hampy @hampshire, Dec 8 4:10pm

I am 59 years old, 6’1, 180pd and always very fit runner and then cyclist. Lifted weights for past 3 years. Dx w 4.5 aortic root and 50% LAD currently; statin and repatha hopefully working now re LAD and my LDL. Have high LPa. This is about two months old info and my life feels unraveled. Retirement was recent and feeling often like I will not make it long. afraid to press on prognosis - difficult to find any consistent info beyond monitor (and hope there isnt a dissection). Current told will push for 35 cholesterol and monitor root annually. Very difficult to maintain a typical workout, and now losing weight. Emotions are rough. The postings here are very helpful.

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I hear everything you’re feeling in this, and it takes me right back to the months after my own emergency Type A aortic dissection in 2015. I was 50, active, and suddenly the ground dropped out from under me when I dissected 1,600 miles from home. Even with good doctors, the uncertainty was the hardest part. I had 42 minutes of thinking about my kids, my wife, and whether I’d still be around followed by three weeks in a coma. That fear is real, and it doesn’t mean anything is actually getting worse. It just means you’re human and you’ve been forced to look at something most people never think about.

A 4.5 aortic root and a 50 percent LAD lesion are things your cardiologist can track very closely. Many people live long, full lives with numbers like yours, especially when they’re already dialed in with statins, Repatha, and LDL reduction. High Lp(a) is frustrating, but you’re already treating the things that can be treated. The fact that your team wants to get your LDL into the 30s is exactly what the guidelines support for someone active and motivated to reduce long-term risk. That’s not a dire prognosis. That’s aggressive prevention.

The emotional piece can hit harder than the medical piece. After my repair and graft, I spent months thinking every twinge was the beginning of the end. What eventually helped was realizing that knowledge, surveillance, and modern cardiology let you stay ahead of this instead of being blindsided by it. You’re monitored. You’re medicated. You’re fit. Nothing here suggests a shortened future, even though it feels that way right now. On workouts, fear can trick you into stopping the very thing that helps stabilize your blood pressure and mood. You don’t have to train like your old self. You just need steady movement, no breath-holding, no straining, no pushing to the red zone. Walking, easy cycling, resistance work without the valsalva. These are safe and they keep your head in a better place.

Retirement plus a new diagnosis can feel like an emotional ambush. That doesn’t mean your life is unraveling. It means you’re adjusting. I’ve been where you are, and it settles with time. You will adapt to this, and your family will still have you. You’re not at the edge of anything. You’re at the beginning of understanding what’s going on so you can protect yourself for the long haul. Peace.

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I hear everything you’re feeling in this, and it takes me right back to the months after my own emergency Type A aortic dissection in 2015. I was 50, active, and suddenly the ground dropped out from under me when I dissected 1,600 miles from home. Even with good doctors, the uncertainty was the hardest part. I had 42 minutes of thinking about my kids, my wife, and whether I’d still be around followed by three weeks in a coma. That fear is real, and it doesn’t mean anything is actually getting worse. It just means you’re human and you’ve been forced to look at something most people never think about.

A 4.5 aortic root and a 50 percent LAD lesion are things your cardiologist can track very closely. Many people live long, full lives with numbers like yours, especially when they’re already dialed in with statins, Repatha, and LDL reduction. High Lp(a) is frustrating, but you’re already treating the things that can be treated. The fact that your team wants to get your LDL into the 30s is exactly what the guidelines support for someone active and motivated to reduce long-term risk. That’s not a dire prognosis. That’s aggressive prevention.

The emotional piece can hit harder than the medical piece. After my repair and graft, I spent months thinking every twinge was the beginning of the end. What eventually helped was realizing that knowledge, surveillance, and modern cardiology let you stay ahead of this instead of being blindsided by it. You’re monitored. You’re medicated. You’re fit. Nothing here suggests a shortened future, even though it feels that way right now. On workouts, fear can trick you into stopping the very thing that helps stabilize your blood pressure and mood. You don’t have to train like your old self. You just need steady movement, no breath-holding, no straining, no pushing to the red zone. Walking, easy cycling, resistance work without the valsalva. These are safe and they keep your head in a better place.

Retirement plus a new diagnosis can feel like an emotional ambush. That doesn’t mean your life is unraveling. It means you’re adjusting. I’ve been where you are, and it settles with time. You will adapt to this, and your family will still have you. You’re not at the edge of anything. You’re at the beginning of understanding what’s going on so you can protect yourself for the long haul. Peace.

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@moonboy I really am taken aback at the reply. I cannot thank you enough. Your words will be reread many times. Peace. My friend,

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It is like @moonboy describes, I thought of myself as privileged , I found out I had it before it became an emergency, I could get monitored, plan, other people don’t have that opportunity. (Mine was repaired at 5.2cm when I was 54yo, 5 years ago, found by chance after an MTB accident).

If you are not getting answers you may not have the right medical support, a cardiologist who specializes in aortic diseases should be able to help you. Not all cardiologists understand aneurysms to the same level, remember you cardiologist will monitor you for the rest of your life, pick a good one.

Stay active, keep exercising but keep in mind what Moonboy described, control your BP, treat your body well, you will be fine

All the best

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Thank you. I have another precautionary echo of AA, and another stress test in a couple days - this time nuclear; passed an earlier full cardiac stress/vo2 with very good max METS. I think the team in part is building base for better direction on exercise and to answer my concerns. Like you have for years been cycling (at altitude, century rides etc). Your replies have been the best thing in four months of disbelief and fear of my future. Very grateful for your comments.

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I went to Mayo because I felt like I was dying but the local cardiologist said the LAD was fine after an nuclear perfusion test and stress test. I thought it must be the aortic aneurysm. Jul 22, 2024 to Aug 6 2024, cardiologists at Mayo were trying an angiogram with possible intervention on an extensive coronary fistula from the Right Coronary Artery (RCA) and Left Anterior Artery (LAD) with both going into the pulmonary artery. There was another from the bronchial artery to the pulmonary artery. They already knew about a 4.8 cm root and 4.7 to 4.8 ascending aorta. The ended up not doing anything because the found a 100% chronically occluded mid LAD and an aneurysm on the RCA where it lands near the root. I had an interventional radiologist to block the bronchial fistula with 12 platinum coils on Sep 4 because the surgeon wouldn't be able to get it without moving my heart. On Sep 10th I had an open heart surgey to remove and tie off the complex fistula, resection the aneurysm on the RCA and do a double bypass. We had 3 plans depending on the situation regarding the aorta and root, but wasn't going to do it that day, but coming off bypass etc, the root ruptured and aorta tore, so I ended up with an emergent Bentall procedure based on one of the 3 plans we had discussed. That was over 14 hours of surgery and I am doing fine. I do have to monitor the remaining portion of the ascending aorta because it is at 4.6 CM. The key thing is to find the best team at a facility that specializes in these things and stay on top of it and don't panic. I was 60 y.o. when all of this went down. The fistula business was congenital and was likely there as a child. It turned out that the LAD had been blocked for a while, but the fistula's collaterals had been keeping me alive until they were beginning to cause problems. The regular cardiologist just didn't dig into the "weird" stuff as he put it and assumed it was just an anomaly. That is why its important to see specific cardiologists and cardiovascular surgeons. Moonboy's experience was scarier than mine and that is saying something. Just hang in there and stay on top of it. Your LAD may even be able to corrected with stents, but make sure you ask the ramifications it you have to have surgery in the future for the aneurysm, because a good surgeon can do both.

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I went to Mayo because I felt like I was dying but the local cardiologist said the LAD was fine after an nuclear perfusion test and stress test. I thought it must be the aortic aneurysm. Jul 22, 2024 to Aug 6 2024, cardiologists at Mayo were trying an angiogram with possible intervention on an extensive coronary fistula from the Right Coronary Artery (RCA) and Left Anterior Artery (LAD) with both going into the pulmonary artery. There was another from the bronchial artery to the pulmonary artery. They already knew about a 4.8 cm root and 4.7 to 4.8 ascending aorta. The ended up not doing anything because the found a 100% chronically occluded mid LAD and an aneurysm on the RCA where it lands near the root. I had an interventional radiologist to block the bronchial fistula with 12 platinum coils on Sep 4 because the surgeon wouldn't be able to get it without moving my heart. On Sep 10th I had an open heart surgey to remove and tie off the complex fistula, resection the aneurysm on the RCA and do a double bypass. We had 3 plans depending on the situation regarding the aorta and root, but wasn't going to do it that day, but coming off bypass etc, the root ruptured and aorta tore, so I ended up with an emergent Bentall procedure based on one of the 3 plans we had discussed. That was over 14 hours of surgery and I am doing fine. I do have to monitor the remaining portion of the ascending aorta because it is at 4.6 CM. The key thing is to find the best team at a facility that specializes in these things and stay on top of it and don't panic. I was 60 y.o. when all of this went down. The fistula business was congenital and was likely there as a child. It turned out that the LAD had been blocked for a while, but the fistula's collaterals had been keeping me alive until they were beginning to cause problems. The regular cardiologist just didn't dig into the "weird" stuff as he put it and assumed it was just an anomaly. That is why its important to see specific cardiologists and cardiovascular surgeons. Moonboy's experience was scarier than mine and that is saying something. Just hang in there and stay on top of it. Your LAD may even be able to corrected with stents, but make sure you ask the ramifications it you have to have surgery in the future for the aneurysm, because a good surgeon can do both.

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@rlhix thank you and your life experience. It means a lot. My cardiology team is at Mayo too. Heading there now actually. As you relate, it is a lot but your path is a testament to strong medicine and support - thank you giving me a branch to hang on.

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I hear everything you’re feeling in this, and it takes me right back to the months after my own emergency Type A aortic dissection in 2015. I was 50, active, and suddenly the ground dropped out from under me when I dissected 1,600 miles from home. Even with good doctors, the uncertainty was the hardest part. I had 42 minutes of thinking about my kids, my wife, and whether I’d still be around followed by three weeks in a coma. That fear is real, and it doesn’t mean anything is actually getting worse. It just means you’re human and you’ve been forced to look at something most people never think about.

A 4.5 aortic root and a 50 percent LAD lesion are things your cardiologist can track very closely. Many people live long, full lives with numbers like yours, especially when they’re already dialed in with statins, Repatha, and LDL reduction. High Lp(a) is frustrating, but you’re already treating the things that can be treated. The fact that your team wants to get your LDL into the 30s is exactly what the guidelines support for someone active and motivated to reduce long-term risk. That’s not a dire prognosis. That’s aggressive prevention.

The emotional piece can hit harder than the medical piece. After my repair and graft, I spent months thinking every twinge was the beginning of the end. What eventually helped was realizing that knowledge, surveillance, and modern cardiology let you stay ahead of this instead of being blindsided by it. You’re monitored. You’re medicated. You’re fit. Nothing here suggests a shortened future, even though it feels that way right now. On workouts, fear can trick you into stopping the very thing that helps stabilize your blood pressure and mood. You don’t have to train like your old self. You just need steady movement, no breath-holding, no straining, no pushing to the red zone. Walking, easy cycling, resistance work without the valsalva. These are safe and they keep your head in a better place.

Retirement plus a new diagnosis can feel like an emotional ambush. That doesn’t mean your life is unraveling. It means you’re adjusting. I’ve been where you are, and it settles with time. You will adapt to this, and your family will still have you. You’re not at the edge of anything. You’re at the beginning of understanding what’s going on so you can protect yourself for the long haul. Peace.

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@moonboy
How big was the aneurysm?

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@moonboy
How big was the aneurysm?

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@tallguy18 No Idea. It burst inside my chest. I never saw or felt it coming until it was there. That's why most people would have a sudden and complete dissection aren't here to tell you about it. @martinkennot and @houston13 are a couple of like dissection survivors as I understand (but then again they may have had elective surgery???). Peace.

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@tallguy18 No Idea. It burst inside my chest. I never saw or felt it coming until it was there. That's why most people would have a sudden and complete dissection aren't here to tell you about it. @martinkennot and @houston13 are a couple of like dissection survivors as I understand (but then again they may have had elective surgery???). Peace.

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@moonboy mine was planned, at 5.2cm no dissection, but within 2 months of being found, surgeon told me it was actually larger when he removed it.

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@tallguy18 No Idea. It burst inside my chest. I never saw or felt it coming until it was there. That's why most people would have a sudden and complete dissection aren't here to tell you about it. @martinkennot and @houston13 are a couple of like dissection survivors as I understand (but then again they may have had elective surgery???). Peace.

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@moonboy you are so fortunate! My husband at 54 died from the dissection of an AAA. That was 29 years back. Negligence on the part of the hospital-not diagnosing it, time wasted before he was transported to a hospital that has cardiac units. He died on the operating table. Apparently, there was an aneurysm on a chest x-ray taken when he was 44 years old. Again, negligence.

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