Okay, I need your responses and help with this one

Posted by kartwk @kartwk, Aug 11 12:10pm

H. FINALLY has a doc. apt. Wednesday for his annual physical. Now I have already sent the doc some of my concerns but my problem is that H can, at times, be just normal, especially for short periods or when passing the time of day with neighbors.

For years, though, in the doc's office he hasn't understood things and I have explained it or told him I understand what the Doc is saying, but that can happen to any of us which is why it is always good to have another person with you.

Yesterday I wanted to rent Jurassic Park on Fandango, we have an account. H insisted on putting in the information, which he had trouble with as it took him 4 tries to get it right before we even got to the password. The password has a $ in it and H kept putting in a ? instead of the $ sign. When I pointed this out he claimed that the $ sign WAS the ? symbol and after so many tries he got locked out. He got very angry when I suggested that he let me put in the code.

Well, needless to say, we didn't get to watch that movie as the atmosphere, him getting grouchy, went down the tubes.

This morning I told him that there was, on the news, an explosion at a steel plant in PA. His response was: "boy, they really are going after those clinics". I had no idea what he was talking about and I can guarantee he didn't either even though he tried to tell me that he thought I said clinic instead of steel mill which isn't even close.

Friday he was telling me Trump had put high tariffs on EGYPT and India because they were buying Russian oil! We all know that it is China and India not EGYPT. When I said he must mean China, he got snarky and claims that he said China not EGYPT. Folks, I have my wits about me, and my hearing and I know what he said because he said it twice. And before that it was that Iran was attacking Ukraine, mixing up Iran with Russia.

HOW do I explain that kind of stuff to the doctor? At first, months back I thought this was a slip of the tongue etc., but it is far too common to be that know IMHO.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Caregivers: Dementia Support Group.

I am enjoying and getting support from reading all your comments and suggestions. I know I have a long way to go, but it is tough when it is just me.

One thing I see is that we, as a collective, group are all in this together and we seem to get some strength from posting.

Let's keep it up.

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When we go to my husband's doctor I try to sit back and not say much until the doctor asks a question my husband ("D") can't answer well. I have to say, the dr is aware and supportive and notices things. Of course, the validity of him having dementia is supported by tests so I hope your husband has had some. And I have even used my phone to do a little video to show the dr. That episode of him trying to sign in to Fandango might have been good. I 've also taken in a little journal so I have notes and dates. D was anxious at times and now takes Zolof and I think it helps.
You could ask for a referral to a neuropsychologist for testing, too. I don't think you have to explain much detail. If his dr. knows anything about dementia he ought to trust you and be supportive.

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What a cute pup!
I had a 1966 MGB (very tiny 2 seater sportster) when I was about 20, over 40 years ago. After I first got it I pulled into a parking space and parked. When I tried to back out to leave I couldn't get it in reverse no matter what I did. Four young guys were walking by and each one of them picked up a
corner of the MGB and lifted me and the car right out of the parking space! I later learned I had to press down on the gearshift to get it in reverse. I will never forget that day. I loved that car and had many great adventures with it. Thanks for reminding me of the fun I had. I am undergoing chemo right now and it cheered me up!

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Thank you all for the reactions about the MGB. I started reading these comments because my mom had Lewey Body dementia and recently passed away. I never knew what to say to her when she would say things that were "wrong." I tried to correct her and she made me mad because she didn't change the way she thought. My brother told me to stop correcting her, he said it upset her. After reading all these posts I wish I would have "got it" and just enjoyed my time with her. I miss her now that she is gone and wish I would have been more understanding of her situation. I wish I would have read these comments BEFORE. I don't think children should be caretakers, they should be able to be in the role of children. Too much stress and that caused me to yell at my mom. Some of my guilt has eased since reading these posts. My mom was 87.

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kartwk It took me quite a long time to realize to just agree with what hubby was saying and not argue or try to correct him because in a few minutes he would forget what was said anyhow. My hubby now has severe aphasia so I now do a lot of nodding if I can't figure out what he's talking about.. i can catch a couple words or phrases every now and again but it's becoming more common to not understand and that has to be very frustrating to him as well. I've learned that I have to live in HIS world (i've given up alot) to keep him safe, happy, comfortable, etc, and it makes my day much more enjoyable.... for both of us.
I feel your frustrations and I know that you'll find your way with all of this.
Strength, Love, Peace and Hugs to you!!!

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My husband watches westerns all day. Easy plots and the good guys always win (old westerns, wagon train, lawman, Wells Fargo) and enjoy the peace and not having to explain who our relatives are. Just need to get the headphones to work so I can have quiet too. But he is still personable and likes to get out .

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Now what is he going to do? He finished all the episodes of Heartland yesterday and is back to moaning, groaning and not making sense at times.

I just was told it is my fault he broke a glass in the kitchen because - ready - I had washed it and it was on the dish drainer drying. Yep, my fault. The actual situation was that he was being absent minded (I guess that is a good way to put it) and wasn't paying attention as is part of his thing. Since the situation started with him it seems, at times, that when he goes to do something he isn't aware of other things that are around, like the glass.

The other new thing is that he may start a sentence, never finishes it and then asks me why I am not answering or talking to him, or if I finish the sentence he didn't is piqued at me doing that

It is a no-win situation. I just hope that at his next Doc. apt. he does that - maybe that will be a breakthrough.

I just bit my lip and retreated here rather than try with him.

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I am going to ask for a prescription for one of those tall rollators, the ones that use use your arms to keep you upright instead of hunched over. I think that may help him quite a bit with his walking and shuffling because of his bad hip, back, etc. as the pressure on the arms will help take some of the pressure off his legs. At least I hope so.

And I am a bit teed that in all this time, none of the docs we have seen have suggested such a help item like this for him. Forget a regular rollator because he is tall and has to hunch over to use it. He shuffles ever so slowly with a cane and is unsteady that I am terrified he is going to fall and break a hip.

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@kartwk

Forget the all rollator, he won't use it. I guess he feels much better moaning and groaning with each step.

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You have a boatload of stuff to deal with. I can only offer a few, humble suggestions and echo others’ (such as putting your own health first; as they say on airline flights, first secure your own oxygen before you assist another.)

To save time, write a heading of few words that pertain to the symptoms you observe and want the doc to hear. Add brief examples and expound when you can. For example:
FLUCTUATING SYMPTOMS
1. Sometimes he understands things; other times is confused about the very same things.
2. Blah and so on

MARKED DECLINE IN VISUAL SPATIAL ABILITY.
1. Inconsistent ability to distinguish between letters and symbols. (? , $).
2. Missed visual cues while driving to place that should be familiar.

FAILING ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE WORDS IN ORAL
COMMUNICATION
1. Audiologist determined his hearing is fine.
2. I say China; he hears Egypt.

SHUFFLING GAIT AND BENT-OVER POSTURE
1. Parkinsonisms ?

Ask for the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. It takes a few minutes, but is a place to start.

Does your husband have a loss of sense of smell? If so, list it.

Does he have disturbed sleep, such as snoring or leg-twitching, or does he cry out and flail as if acting out dream? If so, list it.

Does he have involuntary movements or jerking, if so…

Any incontinence or fainting or dizziness…

I am mostly familiar with Lewy Body Disease and dementia. Fluctuations in abilities and symptoms are the rule. But in earlier posts, you mentioned he has heart trouble. I wonder about vascular causes of cognitive impairment…?

Also, is the belligerent behavior new, or has he always been that way? Note changes.

Is this doc a neurologist or geriatric specialist? If not, can you get a referral?

None of this may help at all. I am sorry for that. But am most sorry for you! Please take care of you! The oxygen mask has dropped.

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@nelms

Thank you for your input. Makes sense and will implement.

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Kartwk@kartwk Forget correcting him. It won’t make any difference, and just ends upsetting both of you. I am learning that incorrect answers or comments from him, and me trying to correct, makes no difference, on the worst days.

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