Has anyone ever shrunk an Aneurysm?

Posted by tripleaaa @tripleaaa, Apr 30, 2024

On 2/5/24 I took myself to the ER for ongoing sharp back pain (waited all day). The CT scan revealed a AAA at 7.9 on the verge of rupturing, plus 2 others. The next largest one is a 5.4 Ascending. I’m still recovering from the first life saving surgery and I was wondering in anyone has any information on shrinking an Aneurysm naturally.

I’m 51, in good shape and never smoked however I chewed tobacco or used nicotine pouches for 30 years (up until the surgery). My next scan is September. I’ve tried researching this topic but there is no information and no one says you can’t shrink it holistically but they also don’t offer any other information.

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@tripleaaa

Thanks. I wasn’t given much to go on, just the standard, don’t lift more than 30 pounds, keep my blood pressure under 130 (My diastolic is around 50 since the surgery) and take my pills (beta blocker, lypator). I do have a cardiologist now so I may ask him but I feel like if there isn’t a pill to prescribe then they won’t tell me it can be done.

I’ve incorporated a whole list of new daily routines (green tea, vitamins - saw a study on Vitamin C on rats 🤣, meditation, etc.) in hopes I can shrink the other 2. I didn’t have the EVAR surgery but the more evasive one. Taking it a day at a time, enjoying every second of it.

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It is a miracle that they can open you up like that operate and put you back together and you are up for another surgery. God bless you and prayers that when all is done you live a long happy life

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@moonboy

Hey Karl. First off, respect—that’s a solid blood pressure, and dropping 31 pounds is no small thing. You’re clearly putting in the work, and at 4.8 cm, every little bit helps when it comes to reducing stress on your aorta.

I had a Type A dissection back in 2015 and needed emergency open-heart surgery with a Dacron graft. So yeah, I take this seriously and I get where you're coming from. After my surgery, I went deep into learning what helps and what doesn’t. Here's the deal: there’s really no supplement or herb that’s been proven to shrink an aneurysm. I’ve heard people talk about turmeric, hawthorn, nattokinase, magnesium, etc.—and while some of those might support general vascular health, none of them are a magic bullet.

The big three are: keep blood pressure low (you’re already nailing that), avoid big blood pressure spikes (like heavy lifting, straining, or holding your breath), and get regular imaging to track size. Also, hydration matters more than people think. Dehydration can cause subtle spikes in blood pressure that fly under the radar.

I take meds now, and I’m okay with that. I’ve learned not to fight the tools that help me stay alive. But lifestyle? That’s huge too—and you’re doing a lot right. Keep walking, stay steady with the low-carb plan if it’s working for you, and just be cautious about anyone promising that an aneurysm can shrink with supplements alone. If it were that simple, none of us would be here. You’re on the right track. Keep at it. Peace.

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Thank you for this comment Moon Boy! While I have been going at this for quite sometime, I still need to hear an informed perspective like yours. I get tired, dont feel well, and lose focus on the big 3 thinking I am not doing enough. Then I remind myself that I am grateful I can still stay active, I am grateful that I have a great team of cardiologists helping me manage my aneurysm and a few other things that have popped up. Your perspective, and your positivity bring me back to the horizen line. So Thank you!!!
UPArtist

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Hello,
Reading all your comments and experiences is helping me so much. In January following a hernia investigation I received an email to tell me I had a Chronic Dissection of the infrarenal aorta. Following a consultation with a vascular surgeon I had full aortic CT scan and they discovered an aortic aneurysm of 4.3cm. I never knew anything about these medical conditions before now. It has been overwhelmingly frightening and waiting for appointments before any decisions are made has my head in a tailspin. Thank you all for sharing because I would really be hopeless right now if I had not read your encouraging words. Live well, take care

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Prayers up for successful monitoring and/or surgery if necessary. I had a ruptured AAA a couple of years ago and now dealing with chronic aortic dissection. It’s scary, but I try to leave it all in Gods hands and do the best I can for my part. Hoping you do well thru this, stay strong and positive. 🙏

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@cathkitty70

7.9 ? That's way beyond when they say it will typically rupture. Wow. Thank God they caught it! I hope you are healing or have healed well. I have heard that there is no way to shrink AAA. I have one that is 4.79 and I'm a mess. It's on my mind 24/7. I have pain in the right side of my abdomen thru to my back that is dull. Don't know if it the AAA or just my sleeping position. I've had this pain on and off for years and doctors tell me they cannot figure it out. So, I'm a bit unnerved. Ugh.

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I completely understand, after repairing my ruptured AAA I now have chronic aortic dissection and they’re monitoring it as well. On my mind 24/7… I just keep asking God to give me strength, healing, and peace… I will pray for yours as well.❤️

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@cathkitty70

7.9 ? That's way beyond when they say it will typically rupture. Wow. Thank God they caught it! I hope you are healing or have healed well. I have heard that there is no way to shrink AAA. I have one that is 4.79 and I'm a mess. It's on my mind 24/7. I have pain in the right side of my abdomen thru to my back that is dull. Don't know if it the AAA or just my sleeping position. I've had this pain on and off for years and doctors tell me they cannot figure it out. So, I'm a bit unnerved. Ugh.

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I just found out about mine and it is 4.8. On my mind constantly. Why can’t they just go in and fix it instead of waiting for it to get to 5.5? I feel like a human time bomb just waiting for the worst to happen.

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@barbaracv

I just found out about mine and it is 4.8. On my mind constantly. Why can’t they just go in and fix it instead of waiting for it to get to 5.5? I feel like a human time bomb just waiting for the worst to happen.

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I know what you mean, I feel the same… kind of like a dark cloud always over my head. Still adjusting and trying to make this my “new normal” and try to not think about it all the time.

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What you’re going through is valid. But it’s also important to know why they wait to operate. Surgery to repair an aortic aneurysm isn’t a quick fix. It’s open-heart surgery. The aorta has to be clamped off, circulation is sometimes stopped, and the damaged section is replaced with a synthetic graft. This is major. It comes with real risks—stroke, bleeding, complications from the bypass machine, long recovery time. It’s a lot to put a body through, and doctors don’t want to expose someone to that unless they’re truly at the threshold where the benefit outweighs the risk.

That threshold—5.5 cm for most ascending aneurysms in people without connective tissue disorders—is based on statistical modeling. Below that size, the risk of rupture or dissection is relatively low for most patients. But every millimeter counts, and the decision to wait is not passive. They’re watching. Measuring. Comparing. Planning. Because it’s possible your aneurysm will stay stable for years. The best news here is that you know. You’re not in the dark. You’re not going to be blindsided like I was. You can monitor it, ask questions, seek second opinions, and be ready.

And even better—you’re only at 4.8. That means you have time. Time to keep your blood pressure low. Time to get the best imaging. Time to line up the best surgical team if and when you ever need them. You’re in a strong position. Truly. I know how loud the fear can get. But the fact that you know you have this aneurysm means you’ve already taken the most important step: awareness. You’re not a ticking time bomb. You’re someone with a diagnosis, a plan, and a future. I had my Type A dissection at 1:40 a.m. on June 28, 2015, in a hotel room in San Diego. I was 50 years old, 1,600 miles from home, and it hit without warning. Emergency open-heart surgery saved my life. I had no idea I had a problem I now live with a Dacron graft replacing the ascending aorta and aortic arch. It was the most serious medical event I’ve ever experienced. And yet, here I am in Minneapolis 10 years later, and as my 19-year old daughter called me this morning at breakfast: bright-eyed and bushy-tailed! Peace.

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What is the life expectancy of someone with an ascending thoracic aneurysm?

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@barbaracv

I just found out about mine and it is 4.8. On my mind constantly. Why can’t they just go in and fix it instead of waiting for it to get to 5.5? I feel like a human time bomb just waiting for the worst to happen.

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I feel the same way.
Mine was 3.7 in 2017 and is 4.0 now, so I'm thanking our Lord that it hasn't gotten much larger over the last seven years. I am very active, but I need to get back to exercising more. And I have been referred to Johns Hopkins for genetic testing for Marfan Syndrom. First available appointment was in August.

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