What is the correct cm in thoracic aorta ansersym to have surgery

Posted by steffe @steffe, Mar 24 1:43am

Hello I'm 55 was diagnosed with a thoracic aorta ansersym 3years ago. I don't know how I got it. I don't smoke. When going to a cardiologist at a good hospital he said 6cm was surgery and I am 5.5cms . I have read several websites on surgery they say the cms I am now I should have had surgery . But the Dr says don't worry come back in another 2years. Well I decided to find another opinion. What do you think I'm lost on this I don't have any family left to help me with decisions.

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@sft11458

I have a 5.1 cm ascending aortic aneurysm and have consulted with 5 vascular surgeons from highly reputable hospitals and they all seem to use the same guidelines for when to recommend surgery. Each one recommended surgery for me and I’m a very healthy 67 year old man. I’m reluctant to have surgery at this point and will monitor every 6 months. However based on the risk factors provided to me, surgery carries the lower risk compared to the watch and weight approach. That’s based on risk of dissection or rupture versus mortality from surgery. It’s a horrible choice either way and I’m not 100% settled on my choice just yet. Peace.

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I agree, it is a horrible and difficult decision to make. I also struggled with it for 6 months. I was diagnosed with a 4.5 cm ascending aortic aneurysm 10 years ago. It has slowly grown to 5.2 cm. Last year my cardiologist and thoracic surgeon said I should have surgery, but I couldn’t make a decision. There is the real risk of a dissection. But, I feel fine and don’t have any symptoms and was trying to balance that against a very painful surgery recovery and months of disruption in my life, my wife’s life and my family’s life. Add to that the risk of complications from the surgery. Finally something my surgeon said convinced me. He said the aneurysm is not going to go away and will likely continue to grow which will increase my risk of a dissection. He also said the older I get the more difficult the surgery and recovery will be (I am 72 and in reasonably good health for my age). So I am having surgery on April 9th.

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According to the latest guidelines by the American Heart Association in 2021 5.5 cm if you don’t have any other pre-existing or genetic disorders that affect your tissues and I think 5.0 if you do, you might wanna Google 2021 American heart Association guidelines for an ascending aortic aneurysm

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@houston13

It is every individual’s decision but At 67 and healthy I would listen to your surgeons, age will start doing its thing to your body and the aneurysm will just get worse if it doesn’t dissect/rupture first. I had my Ascending AA repaired 5 years ago at 54 and 5.2 cm, I was in great health and shape, my surgeon gave me >99% chances of no complications, the stress of having a time bomb was way stronger than any fear about the surgery. When I was 14 years old my next door neighbor who lived alone collapsed on the side of his house, moaning in pain, I jumped the fence and struggled to get him to his bed while my mom called an ambulance. He passed 2 hrs later at the hospital from a ruptured Abdominal AA. That experience it’s ingrained in my mind, when my time came I did not doubt a minute, chose surgery as soon as it could be done.
I wish you all the best!!!

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Thank you for such a thoughtful response; I am struggling with my decision but know as a scientist myself that surgery will set me free.

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@wtamminen

I agree, it is a horrible and difficult decision to make. I also struggled with it for 6 months. I was diagnosed with a 4.5 cm ascending aortic aneurysm 10 years ago. It has slowly grown to 5.2 cm. Last year my cardiologist and thoracic surgeon said I should have surgery, but I couldn’t make a decision. There is the real risk of a dissection. But, I feel fine and don’t have any symptoms and was trying to balance that against a very painful surgery recovery and months of disruption in my life, my wife’s life and my family’s life. Add to that the risk of complications from the surgery. Finally something my surgeon said convinced me. He said the aneurysm is not going to go away and will likely continue to grow which will increase my risk of a dissection. He also said the older I get the more difficult the surgery and recovery will be (I am 72 and in reasonably good health for my age). So I am having surgery on April 9th.

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Best wishes for a successful recovery and thank you for sharing your perspective

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@houston13

It is every individual’s decision but At 67 and healthy I would listen to your surgeons, age will start doing its thing to your body and the aneurysm will just get worse if it doesn’t dissect/rupture first. I had my Ascending AA repaired 5 years ago at 54 and 5.2 cm, I was in great health and shape, my surgeon gave me >99% chances of no complications, the stress of having a time bomb was way stronger than any fear about the surgery. When I was 14 years old my next door neighbor who lived alone collapsed on the side of his house, moaning in pain, I jumped the fence and struggled to get him to his bed while my mom called an ambulance. He passed 2 hrs later at the hospital from a ruptured Abdominal AA. That experience it’s ingrained in my mind, when my time came I did not doubt a minute, chose surgery as soon as it could be done.
I wish you all the best!!!

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Hello have you had any complications since your surgery.

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@steffe

Hello have you had any complications since your surgery.

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I have not, I started working out a few months after surgery, my limitation was more the fact that I was also recovering from a fractured leg ( they found my aneurysm while prepping me for leg surgery after an MTB accident). 5 years on, I’m in great health, workout 5-6 times a week with relatively high intensity , no complications whatsoever and no limitations. As I have some family propensity to aneurysms, I get checked every year by my cardiologist (also checking my aortic valve as it is bicuspid).

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@sft11458

Thank you for such a thoughtful response; I am struggling with my decision but know as a scientist myself that surgery will set me free.

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I just read in the Mayo Clinic newsletter that the size of the AAA for surgery is 6cm. Unlike 5cm as previously dictated

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@houston13

I have not, I started working out a few months after surgery, my limitation was more the fact that I was also recovering from a fractured leg ( they found my aneurysm while prepping me for leg surgery after an MTB accident). 5 years on, I’m in great health, workout 5-6 times a week with relatively high intensity , no complications whatsoever and no limitations. As I have some family propensity to aneurysms, I get checked every year by my cardiologist (also checking my aortic valve as it is bicuspid).

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Houston13, after a ct scan, I found out I have a 4.2cm dilated ascending aorta. When you found out about yours did your Doc say you could continue to work out? Gym work, yoga, walking etc?
Thank you!

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@jdfiii

Houston13, after a ct scan, I found out I have a 4.2cm dilated ascending aorta. When you found out about yours did your Doc say you could continue to work out? Gym work, yoga, walking etc?
Thank you!

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Mine was found already at 5.2 cm and surgery followed 2 months after, so no much time for workout restrictions but my cardiologist encouraged me to stay active and exercise just avoid any exercises where you normally tend to hold your breath and grunt (heavy weights, even crunches) it is known that in those moments BP spikes significantly and that is detrimental to aneurysms. It is a balance, you want to keep your body in good shape but avoid the BP spikes (learning how to properly breathe also helps so that you’d not ever hold your breath). Someone posted an interview with my cardiologist in this forum and he speaks about exercises and aneurysms, the man is an aneurysm nerd, great Dr, let me find it and will repost

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@jdfiii

Houston13, after a ct scan, I found out I have a 4.2cm dilated ascending aorta. When you found out about yours did your Doc say you could continue to work out? Gym work, yoga, walking etc?
Thank you!

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There’s the video I hope it helps, keep exercising it is important to keep you body in the best shape possible. At 4.3 you’re still far from the critical zone and you never know whether you will ever need the surgery but being in good shape will pay dividends.

All the best

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