am I exercising too much with a 4.3 ascending aortic aneurysm?
I am a 60 year old female, who has been very active her whole life. I was a very competitive gymnast, then moved to triathlons, then to cycling and running, strength training has always supported these activities. I am a certified personal trainer, and the aneurysm is a new diagnosis as of Dec of 2022. it was shocking - I now have a heart condition. I ran a marathon 2 weeks after I turned 60. My Cradic surgeon has stated that I can train for a 50k (31 miles) race, as well as a 150 mile bike ride. I have a 50 lb lifting weight limit. My BP is low and I am on no medications. My questions are .. is the activity too much? I run 5-6 days a week plus strength training and biking. I have mild chest pain - all of this has been told to my doc. they keep telling me everything is ok - I am just so nervous about all of this - but want to keep doing what I love. Any input will be appreciated.
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I have two heart docs one is cardo and the other is surgeon. I 63 4.3-4.5 depending on test. Other than proper breathing when lifting live a normal life. Not saying it is ok to be power lifter but exercise diet and keep BP low. If you must ask doc for statin and b pressure med start low doses. This is the best you can do…..maybe it grows maybe not. My doc told me I may never need surgery.
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Hi Will3886. I see you got checked because your brother had heart issues? That points towards a possible genetic component to your aneurysm. You need to have that discussion with your cardiologist soon. Some familial TAADs (thoracic aortic aneurysm disease) lead to early dissection. Not all, but some. If you show one of these genetic markers, the algorithm for the timing of repair is altered accordingly. I urge you, with a 4.5, to have this discussion in order to make informed decisions. I to love hiking! I used to run and I get your desire to let loose on those amazing trails! Good luck!!!
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Thanks for the comments
I will have that discussion asap
I 68 and had an ascending AA diagnosed at 4.2. I still have six months to go, but may do another ct scan to see where I am at.
What I don't understand is why in hell don't they just operate on it and fix it? It has risk, but it is better than this slow torture and not knowing how much you can really do. I hunt chukars, one of the most strenous outdoor sports. Walking up and down steep slopes. But no one can say do it or don't do it. Frustrating!
It's my understanding that insurance doesn't want to cover surgery until you reach 5.0, unless something else is going on. I also asked my cardiologist about getting surgery earlier rather than later. I'm nearly 80 and don't relish having this major surgery when I'm even older. He said I should wait until the benefits outweigh the risks. This is a serious operation. Given what I know now about the long recovery for most patients, especially older ones, I may not have surgery at all. I'm at 4.2 and will have another CT scan in July. Fingers crossed it's still the same. I've never been keen on exercise but I try to walk most days, weather permitting. I've given up on gyms. Those of you who depend on exercise to stay sane and feel healthy--like my son and daughter--always amaze me. I guess it's how some folks feel about opera. You really like that? Anyway, common sense tells me that overdoing the exercise is asking for trouble. Move it or lose it, but don't push so hard you blow a gasket.
Mine was diagnosed at 4.0 almost 4 years ago and then went to 4.2 in a year. Now steady at 4.5 the last year and a half. Based on information from my local cardiologist and also from the head of cardiothorasic surgery at a university hospital who also reviews my scans, surgery is recommended at 5.0 cm (unless they see a rapid increase in readings). They explained to me that surgery is major and high risk, around 5% fatality rate, but depends on the hospital. Not having surgery before 5% the risk is down to well below 1%. They also told me that people who manage it (no heavy lifting, no strenuous exercise, keeping blood pressure low etc) have a low risk and as one of them said "you would go from something else totally unrelated".
Are you talking about the open heart method of repair?
Your comments are very encouraging. I am in a similar situation only I am 67 with an ascending aortic aneurysm at 4.3 cm. This morning I had a CT scan to compare with the my original diagnosis CT scan when my AAA was discovered about 5 months ago. I am hoping to hear back that my AAA has not grown and is stable. I am looking forward to participating in a local charity 5k. We will be walking the 5k. Hoping for good news on the CT scan results.
I think you are doing all of the right things. Keep it up! I too have occasional chest pain if I over do it. Not sure if it is from my back or that AAA. I have been seeing a chiropractor who has been a God send and so far seems to be addressing this pain. My primary care doctor does not think the pain is from the AAA. I have been told not to lift anything over 30 pounds and to keep my BP as low as possible. The 30 pound limitation has really put a big crimp on my beekeeping but I am finding ways to get things done without over doing it.
Are you checking your BP everyday, morning and evening? I have been doing this not only to keep an eye on my BP but to adjust my BP safely as low as I can stand it with Metropolol and very small doses of chlorthalidone. Morning BP is usually around 90/58 and evening is around 116/65. I seem to be able to function just fine with my BP at this level. Stress is yet another thing to minimize. It is amazing how much stress can affect BP.
Best of luck training and competing in the 50K!
I was in a car accident in 2017 I broke some ribs and was a little bit banged up. That’s when I learned I had an upper thoracic aortic aneurysm that measured 4.4 cm. I could just say to your whole post ditto, ditto, ditto. All the same concerns and questions. Over the past eight years, I have gradually increased the exercise I do and sometimes it is strenuous and leaves me a little bit short of breath, but nothing intense. I do a lot of exercises with exercise bands and also light dumbbells meaning 10 pound, 15 pound, and 20 pound. I am 70 years old and a couple of different cardiologist have given me a bunch of different recommendations about how much weight to lift and how often to get a CAT scan. After my first CAT scan, six months after my diagnosis, the doctor told me not to come back for two years. I thought, “no way“, I don’t feel comfortable going that long. So I came back in a year and nothing had changed. I started exercising more and therefore became more concerned about possible growth so I started getting a CAT scan every six months and still nothing has changed. I continue to increase the amount of exercise. I do still staying within the same weight limits and I am now getting a CAT scan every four months. I am doing this because I keep increasing the intensity and I walk for 30 to 40 minutes every day. (and my insurance covers it. ) So far so good. Just wanted to let you know I struggle with all the same stuff. Keep on going!