Aortic Aneurysms – Introduce yourself & meet others
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An aortic aneurysm is a bulge in the wall of the aorta. The aorta begins deep in the heart as it emerges from the powerful left ventricle, gently arching over the heart, descending into the chest, and finally into the abdomen. Some aortic aneurysms can be harmless; others can lead to catastrophic problems. I invite you to follow this group and connect with others, share experiences, exchange useful information, and learn about aortic aneurysms.
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Hi there. Did you end up having open chest repair? How did it go? My father is 88 and UCSF is discouraging my dad from open chest repair after endovascular repair was unsuccessful due to his age. Any words of wisdom to share?
Hi everyone. I just joined this site today. Last week after having an x-ray I was diagnosed with an aortic aneurysm 4.0cm. It is Sunday today so I haven’t been able to talk to any other doctors or to any doctors for that fact. I also have rheumatoid arthritis which I guess can be a factor also again not sure. It seems kind of scary to me. My question to everyone is, should I be concerned?
Short answer: Yes, you should be concerned. Long answer: You're gonna be fine. You came to the right place. You know you have a problem and you are going to address it now that you've identified it. That's 95% of the risk--not knowing that you have an aortic aneurysm. Surgery is typically not indicated until you get to 5.0 cm. For right now, you need to get a referral to a thoracic surgeon who can look at your scans and help you make a plan for whether or not you will need to have surgery anytime soon. It's going to depend on how fast that aneurysm grows. For now, you can reduce your risk by stopping smoking and not engaging in hypertensive activities like dead lifting or planking. Any physical activity that requires you to use a Valsalva maneuver is dangerous (google it). Again, you're gonna be fine, but you may need to have open heart surgery to address it. The sooner you get a plan and place the better. I had a sudden aortic dissection at age 50 and it is not what you want. It's a very difficult condition to survive once you dissect because they have to do open heart surgery to repair it and there's often not enough time. So, bad news is that you've got an aneurysm. Good news is that you know about it so you can do something about it. The best person to talk to about this condition is a thoracic surgeon who specializes in aortic repairs. They know and understand when surgery is implicated and what the best plan for you is. This is not the kind of surgery that can be done using a stent fed up through your femoral artery. This is open-heart surgery to repair your aorta. It's big stuff and you need to have a big smart team on board to make sure that you are doing what you need to do in preparation for that sometime in the future. Peace.
I was diagnosed a couple of months ago on a Friday so I spent an anxious weekend with so many questions. I hear 'ya. I also have rheumatoid arthritis, so I hear you loud and clear. My AA is 4.2 and I think I also have a leaky valve but I try not to think about that. You need to see a cardiologist ASAP and go from there. Good luck. This group is a godsend.
My rheumatologist is the one that ordered my x-ray to check on my osteoporosis and that is how they found the aneurysm. My rheumatologist called me this morning and said she ordered an ultrasound and will cc my GP. Do you think that’s a good plan to start.
Is open heart surgery the only way to fix an aortic aneurysm? Is there not other ways. Also is there a heart doctor on group discussion that answers some of our questions?
For an ascending aortic aneurysm it is (not for abdominal aneurysms).
I'm not a doctor. I am a survivor of a Type A-1 aortic dissection repaired by open heart surgery in 2015. Think of your aorta as more or less a big candy cane coming off of the top of your heart. My aorta dissected, meaning that split, at the top of that candy cane coming out of my heart. In actuality, your aorta is made up of three layers of tissue. A the section generally occurs when the layers of that tissue are separated and blood flows through that separation, forcing the dissection down the aorta until it either stops or it dissects entirely. It is incredibly painful. I can assure you, you do not ever want to happen to you. It was simply the most excruciating pain I've ever been in in my life.
In answer to your question, there really isn't any way to repair an ascending aorta without cracking your chest open (YET). There is a lot of medical research going on and I suspect at some point in the future, they will have a way to go in and make this repair robotically in some cases. But, at the end of the day you're trying to fix a beating heart with several liters of blood flowing through it every minute and you need good clear and open access to be able to see what you're doing and what needs to be fixed. When I had my surgery, I was left in a coma for a couple of weeks because the sutures between my heart and the artificial aorta that they implanted in me were leaking blood. I'm not sure precisely how you would propose to robotically get inside my chest to address that bleeding problem. The way it was addressed for me is that they left me in a coma and left my chest open until they were satisfied that I was no longer bleeding from where the aortic graft had been installed. The aortic graft looks like a small vacuum hose, which is flexible and made of Dacron nylon and is 13 inches long and and 1.25" in diameter. My graft was made by a company called WL Gore, which is the same company that makes Goretex waterproof, clothing and boots. I thank them every day for being alive.
As much as I love technology, and as much as I believe in the future of artificial intelligence, I do think there are some physical limits for how certain things can be repaired. Mechanically, your aorta is about 1 1/2 times the size of a garden hose. Your body needs to be put on a cardio bypass machine and/or ECMO in order to continue your blood flow while your aorta is repaired and keep you alive. Every drop of your blood passes through your aorta and goes on through the rest of your vasculature to provide oxygenated blood throughout your body. By analogy, your aorta is the main highway within your body with auxiliary, roadways trails, and paths off of it. In order to effectively get to where you need to go, a surgeon needs to do a median sternotomy, which is a medical term for cracking your chest open.
On the other hand, if you have an abdominal aortic aneurysm, which is further down the aortic trunk toward your stomach, there are some newer techniques that allow doctors to go in endovascularly and do a thing called an elephant trunk repair. That's basically where they go through a small cut in your femoral artery in your thigh and then feed up a large Dacron stent and deploy it without stopping your heart. That's possible today without the sternotomy for abdominal aortic aneurysms (AAA). You MIGHT be able to repair a AAA without massive surgery, but the doctors are still going to be going in through the groin.
Nature has essentially given all of us a protective shell over the top of a very important organ, namely the heart which is protected by the sternum and a rib cage. This protective shell is great when we're trying to protect our vital organs behind it, but it gets in the way of a surgeon who needs to access those organs to make repairs. The sterum needs to be opened up and retracted in order for a doctor to repair our hearts.
Lastly, I don't know whether or not there were any doctors on this blog. I doubt it, but their input is welcome. Peace.
I'll say it again, your detailed information based on personal experience is incredibly helpful. You were fortunate indeed.
You are very gracious to share this.
DO you know how they would remove a clot just above the bifurcation in the abdomen? Mine is more that 80% stenosis.