At what point are you considered alone forever?

Posted by texasguy1962 @texasguy1962, Apr 24 11:00pm

From reading a few posts, this sounds like a place to sound off at the very least, and hopefully find some thoughts of others on a subject. I honestly just signed onto this system so forgive me if I misunderstood.

I recently turned 60. I have been divorced 20 years. My kids are grown and on their own, so it is just me and my dog. I wonder at what point do you just decide you will probably be alone until the end? I mean, I have family and my kids are only an hour away, but the majority of my time is spent home alone. I go out and do things, but just not every day. But most of those things I do alone. I meet friends for a drink or lunch every now and then, but that's not even a weekly occurrence. I am retired and don't need anything but really don't want to go back to work, so I have days between busy and nothing. But again, I don't want to do anything some days.

I know most would say I am lonely and depressed, but I don't feel like I am. (Not being a jerk but would I feel like I was if, in fact I was? I don't know). Anyway, I don't have thoughts of harm, I don't sit and wish someone would call, and honestly, I laugh at myself quite a bit. I have one really good friend (no romantic attraction at all on either side) and we talk sometimes 3 times a day on the phone while she works... I think she is bored...lol.

I have dated off and on, more off than on recently, but I get exhausted because so many women in my age range are looking for immediate marriage and I am just not sure I want to do that. I don't have a problem with a living together situation but what is the benefit to marriage at this point in life? Religious stuff aside, if I were to get married I would not change my will or my financial stuff, or anything like that, so what is the benefit in a certificate? But they want marriage and they want it now. I had a long-term friend with benefits (sorry, but it's true and neither one of us wanted anything more) but she moved across the country a couple of years ago.

I do admit I would enjoy sitting on the couch with someone in the evening and watch tv, rub their feet, and just relax. I would enjoy going places with someone, either for the day or on a road trip, going grocery shopping together, and just enjoy and live life. I would be okay with being "in love" like that again, but at this point will be happy with compatible and stable and just liking each other a lot....lol.

Is there something wrong with me or am I looking for something that doesn't exist?

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@denisestlouie

It's sounds like you are already in a good place. I agree with you views of marriage at our stage of life. I am in a long-term relationship. After 10 years he moved in with me in 2020 to during the stay at home order and we kept the arrangement. I will not marry him. I share what I have with him, but when I die my daughter will receive the lion's share of what I have.

I do think about aging. Even couples have to think about the time one will be alone. Do you remember the show Golden Girls? I would love to create that type of environment for myself.

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I don't have a problem with that type of relationship but am surprised by how many don't want to get married. Of course, they are the ones that bring nothing but themselves to the relationship. They have no home, can barely afford the car they have, live mostly by credit card and worry about paying bills. I can't do that but I can do the long-term (even monogamous...lol) thing with the understanding that my stuff is spoken for when I no longer have need for it...lol

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@lizziel1

. I’m 66 now. But I knew at age 50 I’d be alone forever. After 2 bad marriages, and countless failed relationships, I’d had enough of trying to find someone. I can truly say I don’t believe I was ever loved as I should be.
Am I lonely, yes! But the thought of being vulnerable again scares me, and the idea of dealing with someone’s quirks , routine, social chitchat and general BS exhausts me .

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From your photo, it looks like you've got a good friend right there!
I get a lot of comfort and feelings of purpose from my cats. It's not everything, but it sure helps!

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Hello. Your life is some what like may life with the acception of having a friend that I could talk to a few times a week, I don't have a pet. Nor friends I could go out with from time to time, When I was young my phone never stop ringing
I had so much to live for.
I missed those times. Your life is sweet enjoy

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Now, at 90, I certainly feel alone. My husband died 3 years ago. We were together for 62 years. Even if I did remotely consider another partner, who could I find at this age? Thankfully for me, I am independent. I live alone and am able to take care of myself. I can drive. And that reminds me of the old joke that a man doesn't particularly like the woman, but she can drive. No thanks. I have outlived almost all of my friends. No one who is left is near me. Have only one friend and every now and then we go out to lunch. But she is not in good health, despite being 10 years younger than I am. I see a lot of advertising for these wonderful places that offer you independent or assisted living and promise a lot as well. So I visited two of them. The accommodations are very small and I would not be able to take anything of mine with me. They are also expensive. I am realistic and know that at my age there are not a lot of years left, but I think I will stay in my own home even though I am alone.

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I have been going through similar situations at several times in my life. Am 84 now, and definitely made peace with being alone. I like it.
When I was younger, like your age, lol, it seemed society put pressure on me to find someone. Got a bit too fast into a relationship after a divorce, then marriage, but it worked out. After this husband passed, I was talked into going online to find what I called “camaraderie”, was missing outdoor activities my female friends weren’t into.
I wasn’t looking for anything permanent, but it turned out that way, and I am grateful for eight
very happy years.
My suggestion would be to keep an open mind, and do whatever feels right. No situation is perfect, being alone, or being with a partner.
Try just to enjoy your everyday activities, and trust your judgement.
In hindsight, I know my God looked out for me, and I trust that He will be there in the future, for me and for you too.
Take care. Let’s enjoy life!

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My response was mainly directed to that 60 year old Texas guy, but guess lots of us have experienced similar situations. Have just read the other comments on the subject.

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Thanks all, for the replies. Life keeps moving....lol. One thing on my mind lately: My brother and sister-in-law have been staying with me for a few months. She is going through chemo and he had heart surgery. So they were both unable to drive, walk the dog, and he even needed help showering for a month because he couldn't raise his hands above his shoulders. Got me to thinking... if I was either one of them, I would be in a world of hurt. They aren't THAT much older than me and I think they would have had a hard time without me here to help, without each other, I don't know how they would have made it through. I have no one to help in that situation so I guess I just don't take a shower or do laundry or anything for a couple of months?

That is one of the things that got me thinking I might need someone in addition to the companionship and all. But I can't afford some broke butt moving in just because I am afraid of getting sick...lol. Hopefully, some of the replies will help someone else... as for me, I will just keep plugging along on my own I guess.

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@1942marilyne

Attitude, beliefs determine lonely

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@1942marilyne very true!

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@brandysparks

@lizziel1 - I can totally relate! I know it's been a few months since you posted this, but I'm just reading through this thread for the first time, and just wanted to stop to say how much I understand!

I'm the same age as you, never married, though up until a few years ago always wanted marriage as my ultimate goal. I am in a 10-year relationship, living together for the past 4 years now. I do thrive more when I have someone to do things with, and feel "more calm" when there is an "us" when we're out & about - in a certain way - than if I were to be doing everything on my own (though I've lived on my own up to now nearly ALL of my life).

I guess it's kind of complex - for me, and I venture to say for all of us. Recently I'll say I've really questioned our relationship, as he doesn't "relate" in the way I need: not much eye contact, not hearing (more due to not paying attention, or increasingly slow response time, not as attentive to me affectionately, etc.). I'm not sure he wasn't always that way and it's just surfacing more, as he may be defaulting to his lifelong mode.

And I certainly ruminate on my contribution to this dynamic, as I have ruminated all my life, wondering why I cannot find the kind of deep, soulful connection I crave, while looking in every possible way for it. And, especially like you said so clearly: "I can truly say I don't believe I was ever loved as I should be".

Warm wishes on this journey. It really helps to have MCC here to share these experiences with others, lessening the alone-ness and sense of isolation when never finding the connection I/we crave.

Hugs. I hope you have many kinds of rewarding and heart-warming experiences along the way. I keep trying too!

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@brandysparks as someone on this thread has mentioned, being alone is not the same as being lonely. You could be in a roomful of people and still be lonely. Likewise, you could be married and still be lonely.

On the other hand, you could be alone yet not feel lonely. You are never lonely if you like your own company. That is not to say you shouldn’t go out and socialize, but if you are comfortable being alone with your own company at the end of the day don’t knock it.

From what you have described of your relationship, I get the sense your companion is already in that “married” mode where he doesn’t have to make an effort anymore. He has what he wants and is in his happy place already, tuning you out and seemingly unaware of your lack of companionship with him. You may want to think seriously whether you want this to become your status quo. If not, have a serious talk with him. If during this talk he still is tuned out (you will know!) you may need to make the difficult decision to end this relationship. Life is too short to waste on someone not invested in you emotionally.

Unfortunately even in this day and age society still seems to put pressure on people at least to be in a relationship, if not marriage, which should not be the case. Not everyone is meant to be married, and if you find yourself never married you shouldn’t have to question why. You can lead a very meaningful life without it - because you are enough!

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@maggieingraz

I got married at 18 and had two kids in my early 20s. Then by 29 I was a divorced, single mom.

I spent my whole life trying to please everyone else and putting everyone’s needs ahead of my own. I’m now 72 and I can honestly say that I’m relieved and happy that I no longer have to live my life trying to make everyone else happy. I have some good friends, good neighbours and I’m active in my community.

I rarely feel lonely because I have a lot of interests snd hobbies.

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@maggieingraz you have the right spirit and attitude! You have spent enough years putting other people’s needs ahead of your own and it definitely is time to live life your way, doing things that give you joy and fulfilment!

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