NTM/MAC/MAI: We must advocate for ourselves

Posted by boomerexpert @boomerexpert, Aug 16, 2016

Throughout the US & its territories, a total of 8580 people are infected with Zika, a virus that is easily prevented and does not harm adults - it can cause birth defects in unborn children of infected people, but that can be prevented. The US is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to search for a vaccine.

In contrast, 1 of every 100,000 people (not including people with HIV) in the US are diagnosed with some form of NTM, most prevalent is MAC/MAI, and that figure is increasing. Under "NTM Facts, A Growing Problem" (https://www.ntmfacts.com/prevalence), here's a few alarming statistics:
"Currently, there are an estimated 86,000 cases of NTM lung infections in the US, and that number continues to grow more than 8% in prevalence every year. (with no requirement to report NTM infections as there is for TB, most researchers believe the number is far higher).
With the rise of NTM infections, data has shown that NTM is now more prevalent than TB in the US...it has been found that incidences of NTM are increasing while TB is decreasing around the US. ...The rates of NTM infection are increasing in patients aged 65 and over, a population
that is expected to double by the year 2030."

The infection went from one considered as opportunistic (effects mostly those who are very compromised, like the HIV infected) to one that has now invaded the general population.

Yet, by all research and medical standards, treatment with first 2, and now 3 (and in some cases 4) extremely powerful antibiotics is grueling (side-effects similar to those experienced with chemotherapy) thus difficult (for some impossible) to sustain as it must be taken 3X/day for at least 1 year, thus its effectiveness as a cure in many patients is spotty; for an increasing number it can only manage the infection, causing them to be on strong antibiotics for the rest of their lives.

In essence, the bug has become more prevalent (and perhaps stronger), and the medical community's response has been minimal research to ID current antibiotics that may work better than others, then increase the number used to treat it rather than find more appropriate treatments designed to kill this particular bacteria. Exacerbating the problem is the medical conundrum that taking these medications orally has a reduced impact on this infection deep in the lungs. Most researchers agree that the best solution is something that can be introduced directly to the lung via aerosol or inhalant.

Over the past 18 years, no significant research beyond that mentioned above has been conducted to find a more effective cure. The only clinical trial conducted over the past 5 years for an inhaled treatment, Amikacin, is generally being tested on those who have already failed traditional treatments, thus not supplanting them.

I believe that patients who endure the impact of this medical vacuum must push for more research, and better treatments, not just more clinically effective, but with far less side-effects. We can start by contacting top research facilities for this condition (U TX, National Jewish, Mayo Clinic, and the NIH, FDA) asking for more research. We can also talk with our physicians about better treatments, asking them to push for more research. Finally, we can continue to search for, and share, information on clinical trials for new NTM treatments, and our ideas for treatments that could work.

If these facilities continue to hear from a great number of people suffering from this insidious infection, it may have the "squeaky wheel" effect. Most assuredly if we remain silent, willing to trudge along with the existing treatments without asking for something better, we are likely to get nothing better.

I believe patients themselves can have a great impact on improving research. But...only if they hear from us.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@katemn

Boomer, that is interesting .. do you mind supplying the links you used? Katherine

Jump to this post

.. however! living in a condo other things apply such as Legionnaire's Disease! So luckily our Manager is up on things and keeps our hot water heater at 130* which hopefully is a happy medium!

Temperatures maintained below 60°C (140°F) encourage growth of LDB and other microorganisms. These pesky bacteria are REALLY a pain! Katherine

REPLY
@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

Jump to this post

I have a question. Is it better to take a bath then, rather than shower to avoid breathing in misted vapor from faucet/shower head?

REPLY
@heathert

Great thanks @boomerexpert! The amakacin trials seem to show that it is not a cure but may help with management, so there is still no cure out there for most of us, and we need one, even patients who have obtained clear sputums whilst on amakacin have reinfections when they go off it. We desperately need new medications. Together we can make a big difference!

Jump to this post

My dr put me on 28 bi-monthly regimine of tobramycin (inhaled) so goes straight to only infected area. and bi-monthly 10 day twice daily cipromycin 500 mg. So far, this has been the best treatment for me. I feel normal again. NO coughs!!!

REPLY
@heathert

The things that I wonder about helping cause my MAC are: Spa pool use, Hormones/perimenopause, anxiety/stress, vegetarian(was eating very little protein), allergy sufferer all my life and sinus problems, family history of lung issues. Lets see what we have in common, if we all list what we think may have helped MAC get a hold in us , and reply to each others comments with what we have in common we may come up with interesting info.

Jump to this post

<br><br><br><br><br><br>Hello,<br> <br>    I am 98% sure I caught my MAI (MAC) from a hot tub. I <br>became ill two to three weeks after being in one. <br> <br>Terri<br> <br><br>

REPLY
@heathert

The things that I wonder about helping cause my MAC are: Spa pool use, Hormones/perimenopause, anxiety/stress, vegetarian(was eating very little protein), allergy sufferer all my life and sinus problems, family history of lung issues. Lets see what we have in common, if we all list what we think may have helped MAC get a hold in us , and reply to each others comments with what we have in common we may come up with interesting info.

Jump to this post

I too feel confident about getting mine from a hot tub...got a vaginal infection too....yay...

REPLY
@kaystrand

Questions:
1. Why are more people getting MAC and NTMs now than in the past?
2. Tuberculosis is a reported disease, NTMs are not. They are also difficult and expensive to diagnose and the increase of 8% per year might be very low. If they are growing at even 8% per year that is a number worthy of more research dollars.
3. What do NTMs effect mostly females over age 50? My doctor says there is likely a hormone connection, but uncertain of what that means.
4. Why are tall, thinner framed women more prone to NTMs?
5. What is critical mass to get research dollars going to find better treatments with fewer side effects?

Jump to this post

I think that once #5 is addressed, we'll get closer to the answers to #'s 1-4... Starting the registry of DX'd cases at NJH will get that going...the critical mass cannot be established until it's seen in raw numbers...

REPLY

Hi @boomerexpert do you want me to put the lab list up that we can all write to to get the mac word out, or are you able to do it?

REPLY

I'm asking anyone who has provided info that better helps us to advocate for ourselves, from the idea of creating a national registry of confirmed cases being considered at NJH to your list (which I haven't seen but am sure is great!) on this site so we have one repository for all advocacy efforts & info. So, yes, please! I'm hoping that in future everyone will use this forum rather than the other for this purpose.
Thanks, H!
T

REPLY

Hi everyone, below is the list of labs that we can write to regarding getting MAC/MAI on their testing lists, all the labs are doing research that could involve testing it on MAC/MAI for a cure, some to do with emzymes and others antibiotics etc They seem to be testing on lots of bacteria but never MAC so we need to let them know how this is now a bigger problem than TB and is growing by 8% a year and that there is no cure as of yet, it generally returns even if it does regress for a period of time. Lets be proactive, we can get this a cure! Please comment who you have written to in the reply below, so that we are not bombarding the same company too many times. GOOD LUCK to us all in finding a cure for this, we can do this!!!!!!!!!!!! I will post an article that I got alot of the lab manes from in my next post, its very interesting.

John Hopkins Research institute for Biomedical Science:
Edward D Millar Research building
733 north Broadway
Baltimore, MD 1205-1832
Attn Stephan Desiderio ph 410-955-3383

Merck + Co :
2000 Galloping Hill R
Kenilworth
NJ 07033
USA
Attn Kenneth Frazier Ph: 908-740-4000

Paratek Pharmaceuticals
1000 1st ave #400
king of Prussia
PA 19406
usa
Attn Evan Loh Ph:617-807-6600

Tetraphase Phamaceuticals
480 Arsenal St
#3 watertown
MA 02472
USA
Ph: 617-715-3600

Melinta Therapeutics
6663, 300 George st
#301 New Haven ct, 06511
USA
attn Eugene Sun

Entasis Therapeutics
gateway park biohub
35 gatehouse Dr
Waltham
MA02451
USA
Ph 1781-810-0120

Spreo Therapeutics
675 Massachusetts Ave
Cambridge
MA02139
USA
attn Ankit Mahaderia

Arsanis
890 Winter st,
suite 230
Waltham
MA 0241-1472
Ph 1 781 819 5704
email info@arsanis.com

Achogen
7000 shoreline ct #371
south SanFfrancisco
CA 94080
USA
Attn Kennith Hillan
Ph 1 650 800 3636

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.