NTM/MAC/MAI: We must advocate for ourselves

Posted by boomerexpert @boomerexpert, Aug 16, 2016

Throughout the US & its territories, a total of 8580 people are infected with Zika, a virus that is easily prevented and does not harm adults - it can cause birth defects in unborn children of infected people, but that can be prevented. The US is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to search for a vaccine.

In contrast, 1 of every 100,000 people (not including people with HIV) in the US are diagnosed with some form of NTM, most prevalent is MAC/MAI, and that figure is increasing. Under "NTM Facts, A Growing Problem" (https://www.ntmfacts.com/prevalence), here's a few alarming statistics:
"Currently, there are an estimated 86,000 cases of NTM lung infections in the US, and that number continues to grow more than 8% in prevalence every year. (with no requirement to report NTM infections as there is for TB, most researchers believe the number is far higher).
With the rise of NTM infections, data has shown that NTM is now more prevalent than TB in the US...it has been found that incidences of NTM are increasing while TB is decreasing around the US. ...The rates of NTM infection are increasing in patients aged 65 and over, a population
that is expected to double by the year 2030."

The infection went from one considered as opportunistic (effects mostly those who are very compromised, like the HIV infected) to one that has now invaded the general population.

Yet, by all research and medical standards, treatment with first 2, and now 3 (and in some cases 4) extremely powerful antibiotics is grueling (side-effects similar to those experienced with chemotherapy) thus difficult (for some impossible) to sustain as it must be taken 3X/day for at least 1 year, thus its effectiveness as a cure in many patients is spotty; for an increasing number it can only manage the infection, causing them to be on strong antibiotics for the rest of their lives.

In essence, the bug has become more prevalent (and perhaps stronger), and the medical community's response has been minimal research to ID current antibiotics that may work better than others, then increase the number used to treat it rather than find more appropriate treatments designed to kill this particular bacteria. Exacerbating the problem is the medical conundrum that taking these medications orally has a reduced impact on this infection deep in the lungs. Most researchers agree that the best solution is something that can be introduced directly to the lung via aerosol or inhalant.

Over the past 18 years, no significant research beyond that mentioned above has been conducted to find a more effective cure. The only clinical trial conducted over the past 5 years for an inhaled treatment, Amikacin, is generally being tested on those who have already failed traditional treatments, thus not supplanting them.

I believe that patients who endure the impact of this medical vacuum must push for more research, and better treatments, not just more clinically effective, but with far less side-effects. We can start by contacting top research facilities for this condition (U TX, National Jewish, Mayo Clinic, and the NIH, FDA) asking for more research. We can also talk with our physicians about better treatments, asking them to push for more research. Finally, we can continue to search for, and share, information on clinical trials for new NTM treatments, and our ideas for treatments that could work.

If these facilities continue to hear from a great number of people suffering from this insidious infection, it may have the "squeaky wheel" effect. Most assuredly if we remain silent, willing to trudge along with the existing treatments without asking for something better, we are likely to get nothing better.

I believe patients themselves can have a great impact on improving research. But...only if they hear from us.

Thoughts? Ideas?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

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Katherine
I'm confused on all the filter stuff. We don't get MAC from drinking water, but from breathing it in right? Water vapor, as in the shower couod be a source.
So if it is going to our stomach, and we do not have reflux, should we even worry about it?
Thanks
Kay S

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@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

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Kay,
I've responded at:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mycobacterium-avium-complex-pulmonary-disease-macmai/?pg=18#post-243182

Hope you don't mind .. I wanted to share this information on that Forum also and found I could not share it on both .. attempt DENIED! Katherine

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@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

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I know and recall you mentioning his thoughts before. That's why I filter the water at the source, not after it's gone through the pipes...I've found no research on this approach (that it does or doesn't work) so deferring to common sense that after a while the bacteria-free water will stop that proliferation and perhaps even...eventually...cleanse the biofilm of any left-over.

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I researched best filters for NTM's and used the Nat'l Jewish recommendations.

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Boomer, that is interesting .. do you mind supplying the links you used? Katherine

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@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

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Boomer, the question above is "above my pay grade" as I am not a scientist nor an expert. Thus I have emailed Dr. Aksamit who speaks internationally on MAC/MAI if Biofilm can develop on faucet where ONLY 0.2 filtered water has passed through. That was what my sink filtration system was also .. but perhaps he and I had a misunderstanding that needs to be clarified. He travels internationally to speak but he usually gets back to me within a couple of weeks. You, as I do, want to make sure of any information we give out to our Forum members is totally accurate. Katherine

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@kaystrand

Boomer this is just great and I want to help. I have questions!

1- Who should I be sending letters to? I live in Minnesota.
2- I'm not close to as good a writer as you, so do you think if I take the first part of what you wrote above, and added that I am one of those infected with MAC and sick from antibiotics that would be good? Or do you have another suggested letter somewhere?
3- Anything anyone has heard of going on in Minneapolis, MN re NTMs like there are in Cleveland and other places?
4- How DO you think we get the media involved?
5- How DO we make this disease reportable? Does it have to be human to human contagious?

Many Thanks!
Kay Strand

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Thanks for forwarding the question to the Doc, K. I too am always careful to separate opinion from fact. My research skills are relatively well developed and have found none on this particular issue as I mentioned. So much no known....sigh....

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@katemn

Boomer, that is interesting .. do you mind supplying the links you used? Katherine

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Here 'tis! Note: since this was published, further research indicates that raising hot water temp may create heat resistant strain so no longer recommended...

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@katemn

Boomer, that is interesting .. do you mind supplying the links you used? Katherine

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Boomer, you are so correct .. a note I kept:
1 Nat'l Jewish recommended 140 …. but that's since been found to create a type of heat resistant bacteria, so new recommendation back to 120. Katherine

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