Stiff Heart - diastolic heart failure

Posted by evelyn247 @evelyn247, May 17, 2016

I have been diagnosed with "stiff heart" and would like to have as much information on this topic first hand. Any way to improve this conditions? What do I expect as it progresses?

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@imhart

Hi, I was just at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester last week for a heart cath and received a definitive diagnosis of diastolic heart failure. Dr. Redfield, my cardiologist, thinks that it is stiffening caused by MCTD. She mentioned Entresto may be approved in a year. Is it too late to be in the clinical trial?

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Hello @imhart and welcome to Mayo Connect.

I'm pleased to hear that you were at Mayo for a heart cath and received a definitive diagnosis. I can understand your interest in Entresto. In order to find out about the clinical trial, you might contact Dr. Redfield's office staff and ask them if there are still openings in the trail. I'm sure that they could assist you with that information.

If you care to share more, what were your symptoms that led to the heart cath and the diagnosis of diastolic heart failure? I'm just wondering if you had shortness of breath, chest pain or inability to exercise.

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@hopeful33250

Hello @imhart and welcome to Mayo Connect.

I'm pleased to hear that you were at Mayo for a heart cath and received a definitive diagnosis. I can understand your interest in Entresto. In order to find out about the clinical trial, you might contact Dr. Redfield's office staff and ask them if there are still openings in the trail. I'm sure that they could assist you with that information.

If you care to share more, what were your symptoms that led to the heart cath and the diagnosis of diastolic heart failure? I'm just wondering if you had shortness of breath, chest pain or inability to exercise.

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I saw Dr. James Utz, a Senior Pulmonologist at Mayo, for those symptoms, which had progressed insidiously over many years. I was flying in from the Boston area so I had to make multiple visits over time to get to see him. (Initially my local Rheumatologist wrote a referral letter to be seen by Rheumatology at the Mayo Clinic.) He asked the right questions and listened well. He referred me to the heart failure group. I failed the special cardio-pulmonary stress test they do. Dr. Margaret Redfield recommended the heart cath to definitively diagnosis this. I also had symptoms of edema in my lower legs with some pitting, edema in face and neck, and specifically severe pain intermittently below and beneath my left scapula, which I understand could be a referred pain from the heart muscle. I also participated in a study that Dr. Robert Frantz is directing. It is believed that my MCTD is the cause of the "stiffening." I wish I'd known about this a long time ago but grateful that I finally have answers now.

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@imhart

I saw Dr. James Utz, a Senior Pulmonologist at Mayo, for those symptoms, which had progressed insidiously over many years. I was flying in from the Boston area so I had to make multiple visits over time to get to see him. (Initially my local Rheumatologist wrote a referral letter to be seen by Rheumatology at the Mayo Clinic.) He asked the right questions and listened well. He referred me to the heart failure group. I failed the special cardio-pulmonary stress test they do. Dr. Margaret Redfield recommended the heart cath to definitively diagnosis this. I also had symptoms of edema in my lower legs with some pitting, edema in face and neck, and specifically severe pain intermittently below and beneath my left scapula, which I understand could be a referred pain from the heart muscle. I also participated in a study that Dr. Robert Frantz is directing. It is believed that my MCTD is the cause of the "stiffening." I wish I'd known about this a long time ago but grateful that I finally have answers now.

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I appreciate your sharing your rather complicated history of getting a diagnosis of heart failure, @imhart. I'm sure you are glad to finally have a diagnosis after searching for an answer for so long. If you care to share more, what meds are you currently taking?

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@hopeful33250

I appreciate your sharing your rather complicated history of getting a diagnosis of heart failure, @imhart. I'm sure you are glad to finally have a diagnosis after searching for an answer for so long. If you care to share more, what meds are you currently taking?

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For the heart failure Dr. Redfield prescribed two diuretics—spirolactone and hydrochorothyozide. She said that treatment of the MCTD is key though. I've been on Placquenil for a long time and Advil as needed. Methotrexate is being considered.This is a systemic illness and I have a lot of other issues in different systems.

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@imhart

For the heart failure Dr. Redfield prescribed two diuretics—spirolactone and hydrochorothyozide. She said that treatment of the MCTD is key though. I've been on Placquenil for a long time and Advil as needed. Methotrexate is being considered.This is a systemic illness and I have a lot of other issues in different systems.

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p.s. Dr. Redfield said that she would recommend following up with her in about a year. She also said that if I was glucose intolerant I should see if my provider here would prescribe an SGLUT2, which is showing a lot of promise in the treatment of heart failure.

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@imhart

p.s. Dr. Redfield said that she would recommend following up with her in about a year. She also said that if I was glucose intolerant I should see if my provider here would prescribe an SGLUT2, which is showing a lot of promise in the treatment of heart failure.

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Is glucose intolerance a problem for you as well, @imhart? I'm also wondering if there is a history of this type of health problem in your family?

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@hopeful33250

Is glucose intolerance a problem for you as well, @imhart? I'm also wondering if there is a history of this type of health problem in your family?

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Not really. I'm just below the cut off for glucose intolerance, apparently. All that Dr. Redfield was trying to do was to say if I am glucose intolerant then she hopes that a provider would give me the SGLUT2 type med because it is showing promise for heart failure. There's a big study going on now and she believes it will probably be utilized just for heart failure patients in the future. It's currently only approved for diabetes.

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@hopeful33250

Is glucose intolerance a problem for you as well, @imhart? I'm also wondering if there is a history of this type of health problem in your family?

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There is a history of congestive heart failure on one side of the family, but they only got this in their late 70s not early 50s like me. I would like to connect with others on this forum who have been given a diagnosis of this at a relatively young age and caused by autoimmune connective tissue disease. Though I must say my local Rheumatologist did not know how my Mayo Clinic team would know that MCTD caused the heart stiffening. So, I am trying to find out as much as I can in order to know if that's the case and the experience of others in a similar place.

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@tcokeefe

I have just been diagnosed with diastolic heart failure. I am 70 years old, female and have been having shortness of breath and coughing for quite some time. The shortness of breath for the past few years but increasing lately, thus the echocardiogram and diagnosis. I am absolutely terrified because it looks as if five years is the survival for about 50%, and after that it drops off sharply. I would love to hear from some female people with this condition. Thanks for any input

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@tcokeefe
Well first off I’m not female nor do I have Heart Failure however you shouldn’t have a defeatist attitude. The glass is half full my friend not half empty. A positive attitude can do wonders and I’m not talking to hear my head rattle.
“A new study finds that a positive attitude can help prolong life. A recent study from Denmark published in the journal Circulation: Cardiovascular Quality and Outcomes found that patients with heart disease who have a positive attitude live longer than those with a negative mood.” Negativity, sadness, unhappiness, depression and such will only hasten things. You can be an optimist or a defeatist it’s your choice. My cousin has had heart failure for far longer than 5 years and has plans that I couldn’t accomplish in a lifetime. He recently told me his plans for his 90th birthday, he’s 61.
Are you on oxygen?
Take care and be positive,
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@tcokeefe
Well first off I’m not female nor do I have Heart Failure however you shouldn’t have a defeatist attitude. The glass is half full my friend not half empty. A positive attitude can do wonders and I’m not talking to hear my head rattle.
“A new study finds that a positive attitude can help prolong life. A recent study from Denmark published in the journal Circulation: Cardiovascular Quality and Outcomes found that patients with heart disease who have a positive attitude live longer than those with a negative mood.” Negativity, sadness, unhappiness, depression and such will only hasten things. You can be an optimist or a defeatist it’s your choice. My cousin has had heart failure for far longer than 5 years and has plans that I couldn’t accomplish in a lifetime. He recently told me his plans for his 90th birthday, he’s 61.
Are you on oxygen?
Take care and be positive,
Jake

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I understand and agree, just was not expecting this at all, and once I received the diagnosis, the information available is alarming. I only learned this a few days ago... just trying to adjust. But thanks.

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