Managing and Living With PACs and PVCs

Posted by rr1967 @rr1967, Aug 14, 2023

Hello all. I have posted in this forum before and I thank you for your advice. I appreciate more support please.

I am about to turn 56 and I have dealt with PACs and PVCs for the past 20 years. The come and go and now they seem to be getting worse. My cardio, regular doc, and electrophysiologist all say that I am fine and that I have too much stress and anxiety (which I do..I suffer from GAD and depression.) They all say that PACs are benign and that most PVCs are benign.

I had an exercise stress echo in 2019 (all normal). Several EKGs this year...all normal. Another Zio Patch Heart Monitor that I wore for a week. Normal sinus rhythm with PACs. My PAC/PVC burden hovers between 1.5 to 1.8 percent. I have had a recent chest xray and plenty of blood work. All normal. I am borderline type 2 diabetic and my cholesterol and triglycerides are all normal. I do take blood pressure meds and it is well controlled. I try to be active almost every day and I do practice CBT for my anxiety. My resting heart rate is about 55 and my cardio says that is normal.

What else can I do to reduce the PACs and PVCs or manage them? Some days they are fast and furious and some days they simply come and ago. But they are ruining my daily life and causing more depression and fear. They are awful in the morning, reduce a bit in the afternoon, and reduce a bit more in the evening.
My cardio again states that they are fine and to not worry.

I have tried a beta blocker (made my heart rate too low and I was too tired) and a pill called Diltiazem. Really had no effect and made me too tired. I don't qualify for any procedure and the one pill they are still offering me is Flecianide but that one has WAY too many side effects and I have had at least two cardiologists warn me from taking it.
What are you experiences, advice, etc?
Thank you!

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@jc76

@713j , Same to you for 2024.
I just want to forget 2023. It was not a good year.

I was just reading that Ubiquinol is made in Japan. I guess that is why so expensive. I did find not so expensive ones at Life Extension. I also read that make sure it is Ubiquinol and not Ubiquinene (spell) which is the regular Co-Q-10.

I see some brands promoting quick absorb and claims like 3 times better absorption. Not sure of that claim but if same cost as regular co-q-10 will buy it.
Take care!

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That claim is in valid that it has 3X better absorption than ubiquinol. It's expensive because it is a difficult product to make. Kaneka is the company in Japan that makes ubiquinol under a registered trademark and a patented process. That is why you see it on most labels that use ubiquinol. Don't cheap yourself out on an advertisement.

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@harveywj

That claim is in valid that it has 3X better absorption than ubiquinol. It's expensive because it is a difficult product to make. Kaneka is the company in Japan that makes ubiquinol under a registered trademark and a patented process. That is why you see it on most labels that use ubiquinol. Don't cheap yourself out on an advertisement.

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What does that mean” don’t cheap yourself out on a advertisement?

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Poor choice of words on my part. I am suggesting that you were going to buy a product because 1. they claimed (proof?) that it was 3 times more absorbent than CoQ10 (or Ubiquinol?) and you were also interested in it because it was cheaper than Ubiquinol. Buying cheaper products based solely on price risks poor outcomes. Unfortunately in America supplements are not regulated. In Germany all supplements and herbs are regulated like prescription drugs. So as a consumer we have to be our own advocates for finding good products.

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@harveywj

Poor choice of words on my part. I am suggesting that you were going to buy a product because 1. they claimed (proof?) that it was 3 times more absorbent than CoQ10 (or Ubiquinol?) and you were also interested in it because it was cheaper than Ubiquinol. Buying cheaper products based solely on price risks poor outcomes. Unfortunately in America supplements are not regulated. In Germany all supplements and herbs are regulated like prescription drugs. So as a consumer we have to be our own advocates for finding good products.

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Ok so what brand of coq10 do you purchase and where?

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@713j

Ok so what brand of coq10 do you purchase and where?

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I switched from NOW CoQ10 to Qunol ubiquinol about a month ago. I can’t tell a difference so far. I switched after reading that it’s more bioavailable given my age. I’m very careful with supplements. But I recently started taking taurine and it’s blown my mind as it completely stopped my ectopic beats.

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@cappcoach

I switched from NOW CoQ10 to Qunol ubiquinol about a month ago. I can’t tell a difference so far. I switched after reading that it’s more bioavailable given my age. I’m very careful with supplements. But I recently started taking taurine and it’s blown my mind as it completely stopped my ectopic beats.

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How much taurine and brand name if possible?

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@713j

How much taurine and brand name if possible?

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NOW Taurine 500mg once a day with NOW magnesium glycinate, 200mg once a day and Qunol ubiquinol 100mg once a day. I take at lunch. I also take 1000mg vitamin c and 200mg vitamins D at breakfast. This is my regimen that works for me. I think everyone has to find what works for them. But the taurine has been a real game changer for me.

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@cappcoach

NOW Taurine 500mg once a day with NOW magnesium glycinate, 200mg once a day and Qunol ubiquinol 100mg once a day. I take at lunch. I also take 1000mg vitamin c and 200mg vitamins D at breakfast. This is my regimen that works for me. I think everyone has to find what works for them. But the taurine has been a real game changer for me.

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Thanks glad it’s working for you!

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@cappcoach

I switched from NOW CoQ10 to Qunol ubiquinol about a month ago. I can’t tell a difference so far. I switched after reading that it’s more bioavailable given my age. I’m very careful with supplements. But I recently started taking taurine and it’s blown my mind as it completely stopped my ectopic beats.

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@cappcoach
Where do you get your Taurine? What is the supplement used for?

I hate to asked buy what is extopic beats?

I too started taking the Qunol ubiquinol and also no difference other than price.

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Taurine is an amino acid that has been shown to calm the heart. Google it. I get NOW brand, 500mg from Amazon. Ectopics happen when the heart beats too soon. Like premature atrial contractions, PACs. Again Google is your friend. 🙂

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