Which form of magnesium for pvc's? Taurate? Glycinate?

Posted by cgg @cgg, Mar 26, 2023

I an active, "young" 73. Have had pvc's for a couple months. Heart monitor showed a little over 1000/day and almost as many pac's per day. Dr. Upped my beta-blocker a little, which hasnt helped, and is referring me to a cardiologist (waiting for them to call for appt). Normal EKG and echo essentially normal but GP wants cardiologist to talk to me to explain everything. Magnesium was low side of normal. Have been on a PPI for a year for GERD. I understand serum Mg isn't a great measure of your true Mg situation. Am thinking of taking Mg supplement and for those of you who have been helped by it, what form are you taking? Taurate? Glycinate? Can you recommend a brand? Am so tired of this feeling! I get anxiety on top of it when I start feeling like they'll never go away. I don't want to live like this the rest of my life. Thanks so much!

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Hello @cgg, Welcome to Connect. It can be kind of frustrating looking for the best supplement with the best bioavailability. There are a lot of companies out there with a lot of advertising that you can't always depend on for what the real truth is on which is the best for certain conditions. When I'm looking for something specific, I first discuss it with my doctor or pharmacist to see if they have any thoughts or suggestions. I don't really have a good answer for your question but here are two sources that lean toward getting the magnesium through diet along with the reasoning. I thought the second article was an advertisement but it really goes through the reasoning and how your body breaks down and absorbs magnesium, that and I like that it's written by a "skeptical" cardiologist.

--- Why Magnesium May Help Your Heart Palpitations: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/magnesium-for-heart-palpitations/
--- What Kind of Magnesium Supplement Should You Take For___?: https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2022/07/09/what-kind-of-magnesium-supplement-should-you-take-for___/.

Has your doctor recommended a magnesium supplement?

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I take glycinate simply because I read where that is the best for me but I'm not positive that is correct.

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I take magnesium glycinate chelated 375 mg though out the day and magnesium taurate 30 mg at night I prefer glycinate over taurate and I always make sure it is third party tested and made in the USA.

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7 years ago my old(now retired) doctor specifically told me to take magnesium Malate 500mg. I have recently added a combination magnesium supplement in one pill citrate,oxide,&succinate. Works nicely to control my afib with prescription medication from Mayo Clinic direction

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@johnbishop

Hello @cgg, Welcome to Connect. It can be kind of frustrating looking for the best supplement with the best bioavailability. There are a lot of companies out there with a lot of advertising that you can't always depend on for what the real truth is on which is the best for certain conditions. When I'm looking for something specific, I first discuss it with my doctor or pharmacist to see if they have any thoughts or suggestions. I don't really have a good answer for your question but here are two sources that lean toward getting the magnesium through diet along with the reasoning. I thought the second article was an advertisement but it really goes through the reasoning and how your body breaks down and absorbs magnesium, that and I like that it's written by a "skeptical" cardiologist.

--- Why Magnesium May Help Your Heart Palpitations: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/magnesium-for-heart-palpitations/
--- What Kind of Magnesium Supplement Should You Take For___?: https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2022/07/09/what-kind-of-magnesium-supplement-should-you-take-for___/.

Has your doctor recommended a magnesium supplement?

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Thanks John! I read your links. Some folks in this group have said their pvc's were helped by Mg, and I am taking a PPI daily, and have been for a year, A side effect is decreased Mg. My serum Mg was low side of normal, but that test not a reliable test of your 'true' Mg level. My Dr. did not prescribe taking Mg.. He conferred with a cardiologist re: my week-long heart monitor results of 1000 pvc's/day and almost as many pac's/ day. He increased my beta blocker 2 weeks b4 the monitor, but it didn't and hasn't helped. Cardio told my GP he "was doing everything right" but to make a cardio appt. to discuss things. I was told "nothing to worry about" . Appt. With cardio not til late May!! Meanwhile, I am miserable when I'm having them which can be a good part of the day. Knowing this is normal doesn't help the discomfort. I don't want to live like this the rest of my life.
I appreciate your feedback and sending the links! Thank you.

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@cgg

Thanks John! I read your links. Some folks in this group have said their pvc's were helped by Mg, and I am taking a PPI daily, and have been for a year, A side effect is decreased Mg. My serum Mg was low side of normal, but that test not a reliable test of your 'true' Mg level. My Dr. did not prescribe taking Mg.. He conferred with a cardiologist re: my week-long heart monitor results of 1000 pvc's/day and almost as many pac's/ day. He increased my beta blocker 2 weeks b4 the monitor, but it didn't and hasn't helped. Cardio told my GP he "was doing everything right" but to make a cardio appt. to discuss things. I was told "nothing to worry about" . Appt. With cardio not til late May!! Meanwhile, I am miserable when I'm having them which can be a good part of the day. Knowing this is normal doesn't help the discomfort. I don't want to live like this the rest of my life.
I appreciate your feedback and sending the links! Thank you.

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These peer-reviewed studies used--& suggest support for the use of, IV-administered magnesium sulfate and/or magnesium citrate: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34950320/ & https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8269653/

IV-administration of any intervention/therapy is not practical (for just about anyone I know).

For my part & in my reading...primarily of non-peer-reviewed literature (there's nothing I can find on PubMed directly investigating and/or documenting the use of magnesium taurate to address arrhythmias) such as this: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/types-of-magnesium#for-specific-conditions...I have been using & have had some success in reducing the frequency & duration of my C19 vaccine-caused incident atrial fibrillation by taking (3 capsules daily of 500 mg each)...magnesium taurate (among all the other lifestyle intervetions I have undertaken).

However, there is this somewhat relevant study using magnesium taurate (in a rat model) to attenuate progression of hypertension: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30963046/.

It's highly, highly unlikely that the overwhelming majority of American cardiologists will be in a position to make an evidence-based recommendation differentiating between different forms of magnesium supplementation.

It's far more likely to find clinicians in other specialties, e.g., Naturopathy, Osteopathy, or Nutrition, to be in a position to advise about nutrition, including & especially supplementation--including supplementation with different forms of magnesium, to address & support the management of arrhythmias...through diet & supplementation--& other lifestyle interventions.

We must remember that American medical-school education typically provides an average of... 4 hours of coursework (over the course of 4 years of medical school, which is characterised by two years of brute memorisation followed by two years of sleep deprivation)...in nutrition. And it's extremely unlikely that American medical school graduates ever obtain additional education or experience in nutrition in their residencies.

Net-net: American physicians, irrespective of their specialties, are not well-suited to advise clients/patients on nutrition, including supplementation.

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All of the '...ates' are salts. That's it. They're salts. If they're magnesium salts, that's all you need to know. Pick up the bottle closest to you on the pharmacy shelf and go pay for it.

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I am an active 72 year old. I take magnesium glycinate and that has helped my pac’s and pvc’s. I know, first hand, how annoying these premature beats can be and stressing about them just makes it worse. Breathing techniques I learned in yoga class help, also.

Good luck and I hope the cardiologist will be able to offer you some relief.
Maybe a beta blocker? I take Dilitazim 180mg daily.

Best regards.

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@mbaisley

I am an active 72 year old. I take magnesium glycinate and that has helped my pac’s and pvc’s. I know, first hand, how annoying these premature beats can be and stressing about them just makes it worse. Breathing techniques I learned in yoga class help, also.

Good luck and I hope the cardiologist will be able to offer you some relief.
Maybe a beta blocker? I take Dilitazim 180mg daily.

Best regards.

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Thanks for your reply. I have been on a beta.blocker for years and my GP upped it which didnt seem to help. I've taken yoga in the past and I do use the breathing techniques to help with any anxiety ,but it doesn't help the pvc's. Started Mg Taurate about a week ago. Not getting 1000/day like pre iously but still getting them..some days worse than others. I just want them to stop. Trying to ignore them as much as possible. I do wonder if having them for so many weeks can eventually affect the heart. Thanks again!

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Hi, I have been dealing lightheadedness , chest tightness with constant pvc’s for the past 5 months. Seem to be getting worse in spite of taking magnesium, diet, etc. Have had all the cardiac testing and was told nothing to worry about. Metoprolol only makes dizziness worse.
After some research, I decided to try acupuncture. I wondered if anyone tried this and had any success?
Thanks!

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