Depression: What medication can I try after so many years?

Posted by miray67 @miray67, Apr 22, 2020

I have fought depression and anxiety since I was about seven years old when I had panic attacks. Without revealing my age what can you take when you have tried all the older medicines? It’s been with me for MANY years. Not the panic attacks but long spells of depression and anxiety to the point I am ver shaky most of the time. I’m sure there newer medications than the ones doctors want me to try again. I am now on Paxil again after trying it back in 1995. Seems it does everything except what it’s supposed to do. My present doctor refuses to change it but has reduced the dosage again to 25mg from 37.5. I hate to keep changing doctors and trying over and over. Being confined for so long hasn’t helped, of course. I am in good health for my age, still drive a little and do most everything for my self with weak need and chronic pain.

My prayers go out for you. Hang in there.

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@lilypaws

Hi Stephen this is Jeanie @ lilypaws. I had never heard of Genesight testing. Maybe it would help my son who is Bipolar 1. We have no contact with him, but I get information from his wife;s mother. So I will e-mail her and mention it. She should get the message to him.

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At the very least it will let him take a drug which his body can metabolize, (digest). Better results, less side effects. Love and Blessings

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@marjou

Agree that this staying at home time really affects my depression and anxiety to the point of crying more and less able to cope with even the slightest change. I am so sensitive to medications that am told that I am "medication resistant", but I did want to suggest a homeopathic option I have tried and seems to be of help. It's called Rescue Pastilles (lozenges) made by Bach and can be found at Swanson's a vitamins/supplements website. It also comes in liquid form. I pray that we get to some sort of "normal" again soon and safely.

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@marjou i agree with you in this epidemic situation i am facing more depression and anxiety while staying at home, but i am feeling better by using CBD for my anxiety. It helps alot to improve my mental illness and making me stabilize in this situation. If you would like to try some cbd you can get a better deals on cbd oils at CouponX cbd category

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I've never used any of these products and I don't know much about them. The one that you're referring to for helping with depression, does that have THC in it?

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@wsh66

I've never used any of these products and I don't know much about them. The one that you're referring to for helping with depression, does that have THC in it?

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@wsh66 There are many myths on CBD, everyone has different opinions on it. some people prefer CBD for mental illness and some people oppose it. I personally tried many medications for anxiety and depression and i found cbd is giving better results for me to learn more about CBD their myths and reality check this article. i was unable to give the exact url for because of this website terms and conditions but you can check for this title 'CBD Oil: All Myths Busted and Reality Explained'

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@sindypaulson

@wsh66 There are many myths on CBD, everyone has different opinions on it. some people prefer CBD for mental illness and some people oppose it. I personally tried many medications for anxiety and depression and i found cbd is giving better results for me to learn more about CBD their myths and reality check this article. i was unable to give the exact url for because of this website terms and conditions but you can check for this title 'CBD Oil: All Myths Busted and Reality Explained'

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The or no the? What do you take?

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@sindypaulson

@wsh66 There are many myths on CBD, everyone has different opinions on it. some people prefer CBD for mental illness and some people oppose it. I personally tried many medications for anxiety and depression and i found cbd is giving better results for me to learn more about CBD their myths and reality check this article. i was unable to give the exact url for because of this website terms and conditions but you can check for this title 'CBD Oil: All Myths Busted and Reality Explained'

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@sindypaulson and @myray67 I liked your suggestion on using CBD and going to ask my psychiatrist who is suppose to be calling me today. I'm doing pretty well right now on Lexapro and Lamictal 200 mg and Klonopin. One in the morning and 2 at night to help me sleep.
My daughter has lots of panic and anxiety and my son is Bipolar 1. It is inherited big time. My mom suicide at age 69. I'm 68 now.
My heart goes out to you. I know what it is like. I hope you found something that helps.

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Here is the link to GeneSight testing. Instead of trial and error I used GeneSight testing to learn what the right drug, one my body could metabolize, was for me. Check it out. Mayo has a version as well but GeneSight is the original.
https://genesight.com/endtrialanderror/

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@wsh66, I've used both CBD and THC for different reasons. I found CBD calming during my withdrawal from taking Tramadol 50 mg 4 times a day after my L5 laminectomy in Dec. 2016. I withdrew from Gabapentin and a muscle spasm med first after 4 months on them. No fun! I waited nearly a year to get off the Tramadol due to continued pain from my L4, and concern about how hard it would be after my Gabapentin withdrawal experience.

As I began to slowly withdraw from Tramadol, I experienced a great deal of anxiety and fuzzy thinking. I decided to try CBD which I had never used before, to see if it would help. To my surprise, it REALLY eased my anxiety from withdrawal and I was successful in my getting off the Tramadol.

I also had discovered ART (Active Release Technique), which was recommended by a Connect person as helping them with back pain. I researched it and found a local practitioner who my therapeutic massage person recommended as he just happened to be the masseuse's chiropractor. I was a bit nervous about using a chiropractor, but had tried everything else to no avail. Dr. Andrews said $600 for 2 sessions a week for 3 weeks. I decided to take a chance and his work nearly completely relieved my pain. I still go to him about once a month for other issues but no longer for back pain.

Since I can't take NSAIDS and have osteoarthritis pain, my doctor prescribed Tramadol 50mg again, but only 1 a day. It does help, but sometimes pain recurs in the evening. When that happens I take a 10 mg. marijuana edible, along with Tylenol. It works for the pain, but I don't think it would work for anxiety. In fact when I was trying to figure out the correct dose, I took too much once and had a panic attack. So, I caution everyone about that. I hope this information about my experience helps you.

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@gailb

@wsh66, I've used both CBD and THC for different reasons. I found CBD calming during my withdrawal from taking Tramadol 50 mg 4 times a day after my L5 laminectomy in Dec. 2016. I withdrew from Gabapentin and a muscle spasm med first after 4 months on them. No fun! I waited nearly a year to get off the Tramadol due to continued pain from my L4, and concern about how hard it would be after my Gabapentin withdrawal experience.

As I began to slowly withdraw from Tramadol, I experienced a great deal of anxiety and fuzzy thinking. I decided to try CBD which I had never used before, to see if it would help. To my surprise, it REALLY eased my anxiety from withdrawal and I was successful in my getting off the Tramadol.

I also had discovered ART (Active Release Technique), which was recommended by a Connect person as helping them with back pain. I researched it and found a local practitioner who my therapeutic massage person recommended as he just happened to be the masseuse's chiropractor. I was a bit nervous about using a chiropractor, but had tried everything else to no avail. Dr. Andrews said $600 for 2 sessions a week for 3 weeks. I decided to take a chance and his work nearly completely relieved my pain. I still go to him about once a month for other issues but no longer for back pain.

Since I can't take NSAIDS and have osteoarthritis pain, my doctor prescribed Tramadol 50mg again, but only 1 a day. It does help, but sometimes pain recurs in the evening. When that happens I take a 10 mg. marijuana edible, along with Tylenol. It works for the pain, but I don't think it would work for anxiety. In fact when I was trying to figure out the correct dose, I took too much once and had a panic attack. So, I caution everyone about that. I hope this information about my experience helps you.

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Your last two sentences are what I was getting at. THC has always been associated with paranoia. It is also associated with worsening depression when used for a long period of time, at least that's what I was told by the experts when I was working in restorative justice with teenagers. I was never sure about that claim. Whether people turn to drugs when they are depressed or have other emotional issues or if the drugs the kids were using, caused their issues, which was the party line in that field. Verifiable, reproducible research has shown us that of all the people who experiment with drugs and or alcohol about 10% become addicted and or dependent. Something is obviously different about the 10% of people who become addicted. As a culture we seem to be very resistant to the idea that something about the way we live is causing so much stress for many people that they become drug dependent or alcoholic. I don't know if those numbers, the 10%, are still good, still accurate. I doubt that they are. America has never seen a drug epidemic like the opioid crisis. During that time and for the last 50 years life has been getting harder and harder for people on the lower half of the income scale. They're working harder for less money. They're seeing the good job they had, go away and be replaced by less good jobs. Guys in midlife who were once in tech, working for solid 5 figure salaries are now working at Home Depot for a fraction of what they used to earn. A number of books have been written on this subject. Books about what it is like to be working hard and still being poor in the richest country in the world, the richest country in the history of the world. By the way, what keeps us the richest country in the world is what is owned by the top few percent. We no longer have the highest standard of living in the world in fact we don't have the highest of much of anything in the world if you're looking at the figures that come from the government and from University studies.

If THC helps you with anything, I'm glad you have the privilege of getting it legally. Let's not forget that most people in America don't have access to legal marijuana and many of the people who do have access to legal marijuana cannot afford it because the cost is prohibitively high. A very large portion of the people who inhabit our prisons and our jails are there because of marijuana. If you were arrested for marijuana and you are black, you face a much different future than if you are white, upper middle class, and college-educated.

After using GeneSight testing to find out which psychotropic meds would work best for me or at least which my body could metabolize I found very good solutions to y very severe depression. I also employed bibliotherapy and I saw a psychologist regularly for a number of years. I was one of the fortunate ones who could afford both my medications and had insurance which would pay for my psychologist. Remembering those times I cannot imagine that getting high on anyting wood have improved my situation.

We also need more research into the other components of marijuana which are produced in much smaller quantities than the THC. I heard an interview on public radio with a scientist from a company that developed a process for turning sugar into THC. They manipulated the DNA of yeast to cause it to actually ferment the sugar into THC and they were hopeful that they could use the same process to produce much greater quantities of some other less studied components of cannabis

, which may have even greater medical value than the ones we know about now.

Make no mistake about this. It was my generation that began the push for legalized marijuana for medical purposes and it was definitely a matter of getting the camel's nose into the tent. Another first step in legalizing recreational marijuana. The most dangerous and deadly drug that we use in America is alcohol. Nothing has a body count like alcohol and drunk driving but it's legal because it's part of our culture. Marijuana is now part of our culture and has been for at least 50 years and if two should be legal. Some experts believe that all drugs should be legal, that they are a medical problem not a police problem not a problem to be solved with jails.

I'm not sure I agree with that idea but I do wonder, I think about how much money there would be to use to treat addiction if we didn't have to employ the police and the courts and the prisons to deal with drugs. The last time I saw any kind of reputable information was about 15 years ago. This report said that if you took everyone who was in jail or prison for 1/2 pound of marijuana or less and release them you would be releasing 50% of the United States prison population. Think about that.

Again I'm glad you have something that's working for you oh, I do too. Love & blessings

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@miray67 Wondering how you are getting a long? Have you been on Lexapro or Lamictal? Lamictal is a mood elevator. I take both in the AM. Hoping you are feeling better and less depressed. Blessings

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@lilypaws I think I belong to this group. I am summertime4. I am over board with frustration stemming from neuropathy, lymphedema, back issues. I do belong to the neuropathy group which is very helpful. My anxiety and depression are wearing me down as much as the pain is. I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety long time ago. I have been on sooo many medications. One I remember being helpful was Zyprexia. I took it for several years and the entire time my head was feeling normal my body was getting heavier and heavier. The weight gain was too unhealthy so I weaned off. It was the worst time I ever had with medication withdrawal. I know it was at least a year of sheer hell. Oh I lost weight 208 down to 145 within 6 months along with the depression. Moving fast forward. I continued with depression and anxiety and was on several medications. I think I stayed on Zoloft for years. Ok-2 years ago my husband died. I bean seeing another provider as I really wasn't seeing a psychiatric nurse and just getting meds from my PCP. I was prescribed Effexor. Didn't do anything but stayed on it, @ months ago I was referred to a psychiatric nurse for medication check. She did Genesight test. Effexor wasn't a good med for me/ Of course I knew that. Very difficult withdrawal from 37.5 Effexor and while withdrawing was prescribed Trintellix. Stopped 2 days ago under doctor's ok. So 3 days no psychiatric meds. Nurse recommended Pristiq. Has anyone taken that? Sounds alot like Effexor. I also looked up

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