Chronic Pain members - Welcome, please introduce yourself

Posted by Kelsey Mohring @kelseydm, Apr 27, 2016

Welcome to the new Chronic Pain group.

I’m Kelsey and I’m the moderator of the group. I look forwarding to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Why not take a minute and introduce yourself.

@hazelblumberg

I developed earaches in September 2016. My primary care found no ear or sinus infection and sent me to an ENT, who diagnosed TMJ pain. I went to my dentist for help. He gave me weekly anesthesia shots into trigger points (OUCH!) and exercises to do, including massaging the trigger points and opening my mouth as wide as I could numerous times in the shower while my face was warm and wet. (I have been wearing a night guard made by my dentist for over 20 years; he replaces them as they wear out.) The pain continued and only got worse; it was at the top of my head, in my ears, in my jaw, above my palate (as though I’d eaten hot food). My dentist sent me to an oral surgeon, who did 360-degree x-rays and found no joint damage. He told me I was therefore not a candidate for surgery (YAY!) and prescribed Flexeril, a muscle relaxer. The pain only got worse, and I continued to wake up in the night with horrific pain. Ibuprofen didn’t even touch it.

My dentist then sent me to a physical therapist, who didn’t listen to a word I said. I came in on a “good” pain day: my pain level was about a 5 out of 10 (10 being the worst). After his examination and showing me how to do various exercises, he triumphantly told me that my pain level was now reduced. I said “No. My pain level is now about 7.5.” He said he didn’t believe me. He attempted to push me to go to his outside clinic to get “magnet therapy,” and he tried to push me to see a friend of his who is a naturopath. Two days after this session, I was still in excruciating pain and doubt I’d ever return to this physical therapist, although he had me schedule 4 more 1-hour sessions with him.

I called my dentist again, and he called in a prescription for Tylenol plus codeine, which I can take every 4 to 6 hours. My dentist seems to have no further solutions for me.

My primary care is currently out of town, but I will see her when she gets back (in August); she may be referring me to a pain management specialist, which my dentist recommended–however, my dentist refuses to give me a referral to such a specialist, even though the specialist will take referrals from dentists or doctors.

I have been treated for many years for clinical depression and panic/anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, and the meds have helped me immensely. On Monday I see my psychiatrist for my usual 6-month med check, and I’m going to ask him for help with the terrible TMJ pain. I have also had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. The fibro pain has greatly lessened over time and hardly bothers me, but the CFS continues.

The TMJ pain makes it difficult to concentrate. I’m self-employed, and I enjoy my work. But pain gets in the way, as it does in every single situation: work or pastimes. My dentist mentioned massage therapy, but I’m in too much pain right now to try it. Another friend mentioned using a TENS unit. I feel as though I’m not living; to be in constant pain is hardly living, at least to me.

Any other suggestions? Would a TENS unit help? I’m more than willing to purchase one. I’ll try just about anything to be pain free. Sometimes I am pain free. But I spend about 2 weeks out of every month in serious pain. I am feeling very discouraged.

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@marield65 Marie, if your reaction continued for days then it does make sense that it was the dilaudid. I was on that once but I had a bad reaction to it, I don’t remember what. I think maybe extreme nausea.
My problems with being a bit delirious after surgery disappeared in a day, it was only on the day of surgery that I actually got sort of irrational. I have heard that is a frequent reaction that many people have after surgery.
JK

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@hazelblumberg

I developed earaches in September 2016. My primary care found no ear or sinus infection and sent me to an ENT, who diagnosed TMJ pain. I went to my dentist for help. He gave me weekly anesthesia shots into trigger points (OUCH!) and exercises to do, including massaging the trigger points and opening my mouth as wide as I could numerous times in the shower while my face was warm and wet. (I have been wearing a night guard made by my dentist for over 20 years; he replaces them as they wear out.) The pain continued and only got worse; it was at the top of my head, in my ears, in my jaw, above my palate (as though I’d eaten hot food). My dentist sent me to an oral surgeon, who did 360-degree x-rays and found no joint damage. He told me I was therefore not a candidate for surgery (YAY!) and prescribed Flexeril, a muscle relaxer. The pain only got worse, and I continued to wake up in the night with horrific pain. Ibuprofen didn’t even touch it.

My dentist then sent me to a physical therapist, who didn’t listen to a word I said. I came in on a “good” pain day: my pain level was about a 5 out of 10 (10 being the worst). After his examination and showing me how to do various exercises, he triumphantly told me that my pain level was now reduced. I said “No. My pain level is now about 7.5.” He said he didn’t believe me. He attempted to push me to go to his outside clinic to get “magnet therapy,” and he tried to push me to see a friend of his who is a naturopath. Two days after this session, I was still in excruciating pain and doubt I’d ever return to this physical therapist, although he had me schedule 4 more 1-hour sessions with him.

I called my dentist again, and he called in a prescription for Tylenol plus codeine, which I can take every 4 to 6 hours. My dentist seems to have no further solutions for me.

My primary care is currently out of town, but I will see her when she gets back (in August); she may be referring me to a pain management specialist, which my dentist recommended–however, my dentist refuses to give me a referral to such a specialist, even though the specialist will take referrals from dentists or doctors.

I have been treated for many years for clinical depression and panic/anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, and the meds have helped me immensely. On Monday I see my psychiatrist for my usual 6-month med check, and I’m going to ask him for help with the terrible TMJ pain. I have also had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. The fibro pain has greatly lessened over time and hardly bothers me, but the CFS continues.

The TMJ pain makes it difficult to concentrate. I’m self-employed, and I enjoy my work. But pain gets in the way, as it does in every single situation: work or pastimes. My dentist mentioned massage therapy, but I’m in too much pain right now to try it. Another friend mentioned using a TENS unit. I feel as though I’m not living; to be in constant pain is hardly living, at least to me.

Any other suggestions? Would a TENS unit help? I’m more than willing to purchase one. I’ll try just about anything to be pain free. Sometimes I am pain free. But I spend about 2 weeks out of every month in serious pain. I am feeling very discouraged.

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contentandwell:Thanks for your input. It makes sense to me what you said, I just needed confirmation. maried65

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Hi!

Mel here. How are you? Just wondering if Mayo has any wellness or complementary treatments for chronic back pain. Are there other options besides surgery?
Thank you!

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@chronicbackpainmelissa

Hi!

Mel here. How are you? Just wondering if Mayo has any wellness or complementary treatments for chronic back pain. Are there other options besides surgery?
Thank you!

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Hello @chronicbackpainmelissa and welcome to Mayo Connect. I see that you just joined us and I’m glad that you found this online patient support group. I see you are looking for some alternatives to surgery for chronic back pain. We have a number of Members who suffer from chronic back pain. If you could tell us a little about the source of your back pain that might help us connect you to others in our community.

For example, how long have you had this back pain? Is it from scoliosis, or a degenerative disc problem? What type of treatments have you tried so far? has your doctor suggested some treatment, other than surgery?

Teresa

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Hi Teresa and John,
I have severe bilateral neural foraminal narrowing at L5-S1. Bilateral L5 spondylolysis with spondylolisthesis. Degenerative problems, with constant low back pain. Occasional Sciatica also.
I was a professional ballet dancer, been in car wrecks and lived thru an EF-5 tornado. I lifted patients in wheel chairs to safety in the “war zone” and wrecked my back.

Tried acupuncture, massage, chiro, with little to no results to speak of. Would like to get on a great PT routine, if it’s right for me.

Any suggestions please?

Thank you!

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@chronicbackpainmelissa

Hi Teresa and John,
I have severe bilateral neural foraminal narrowing at L5-S1. Bilateral L5 spondylolysis with spondylolisthesis. Degenerative problems, with constant low back pain. Occasional Sciatica also.
I was a professional ballet dancer, been in car wrecks and lived thru an EF-5 tornado. I lifted patients in wheel chairs to safety in the “war zone” and wrecked my back.

Tried acupuncture, massage, chiro, with little to no results to speak of. Would like to get on a great PT routine, if it’s right for me.

Any suggestions please?

Thank you!

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Hello @chronicbackpainmelissa – I would also like to welcome you to Connect. I also have lower back pain and have had for quite awhile but I just haven’t done anything about it. It’s just been the past few months that it seems to be getting worse. I had an MRI and bone scan a few months ago and it confirmed I have degenerative disc disease. I’m guessing that’s standard issue when you get into your 70s which I am. I notice it more in the Winter months when I have to shovel a little snow. I just take frequent breaks and don’t over do it. I try to ride my recumbent exercise bike 4 to 5 days a week for 30 minutes and some evenings for 30 minutes when I’m feeling OK. I have an inversion table but haven’t used it for a long time. I bought it specifically for my lower back and stretching the spine but didn’t like using it. I never did the full inversion, too hard for me. I did it enough to where my head was about at 45 degree angle below the feet for a short period of time. I’m going to have to see if I can still do that (with my wife watching just in case I can’t get up righted!).

I did find some exercise videos for the lower back that may help. I might try a few to see if they help assuming I can do them. The only down side is each video has an advertisement you have to watch before they show the video.
https://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/videos
John

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@boourbonman

I promised you all I would let you know when I got approved for Medical Marijuana. Judi and I did it. We then went down to Edgewater FL. and got two 500 mg bottles. $70 each. So we were suppose to start with 5 drops (each drop is a mg.) three times a day and slowly work up to 10 drops 3 times a day. Do the math. 16 days for $70. We are both at 5 drops 3 times a day and no relief. I sure hope it starts to ease our pain. Will Keep you posted.
Hoot

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I use Cobra Premium All-natural Cannabis Oil….for no coughing because it is so pure. I also have Elevate from IVXX. This one works faster but can cause coughing. These are MM products and not available on Amazon.

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Given the dates on the most recent posts, it appears as if this blog might be discontinued but just in case I’ll give it a try anyway. My name is Ed, I’m 56 and live with my partner of 15 years in NYC. I have been dealing with progressive, adhesive arachnoiditis and radiculopathy for most of the past 7-10 years. It’s a long story which I’ll go into if someone asks me to but suffice it to say that it’s not clear whether my pain is the result of failed back surgery and more than 20 spinal punctures for epidurals or from the original injury (Dec 1995) which ended up needing to be fixed with L3-S1 fusion (May 2005) which then had hardware failure complications and was redone two months later (Jul 2005).

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@eddougher

Given the dates on the most recent posts, it appears as if this blog might be discontinued but just in case I’ll give it a try anyway. My name is Ed, I’m 56 and live with my partner of 15 years in NYC. I have been dealing with progressive, adhesive arachnoiditis and radiculopathy for most of the past 7-10 years. It’s a long story which I’ll go into if someone asks me to but suffice it to say that it’s not clear whether my pain is the result of failed back surgery and more than 20 spinal punctures for epidurals or from the original injury (Dec 1995) which ended up needing to be fixed with L3-S1 fusion (May 2005) which then had hardware failure complications and was redone two months later (Jul 2005).

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Welcome! I don’t think there’s a danger that this’ll be discontinued. We’ve been blathering up a storm here. I get a lot of messages every day to look at.

I don’t even know what arachnoiditis and radiculopathy are. My pain issue is TMJ pain. Currently, I’m getting a break from it; it comes and goes. When it’s here, it’s in the 8 to 10 area on the pain chart of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most pain you can imagine.

For the past week, I’ve either had no pain or have had twinges that don’t exceed 5. I have NO idea what I might be doing differently, if anything, to cause the change. I’ve joked that, as soon as I ordered an inexpensive TENS unit the pain stopped! My primary care told me today to try the TENS unit on my arm or leg first, just in case it’s not made for faces. Sometimes even the lowest setting on a TENS unit may be way too much for one’s face. I haven’t even taken the shrink wrap off the package yet.

Hazel

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@eddougher

Given the dates on the most recent posts, it appears as if this blog might be discontinued but just in case I’ll give it a try anyway. My name is Ed, I’m 56 and live with my partner of 15 years in NYC. I have been dealing with progressive, adhesive arachnoiditis and radiculopathy for most of the past 7-10 years. It’s a long story which I’ll go into if someone asks me to but suffice it to say that it’s not clear whether my pain is the result of failed back surgery and more than 20 spinal punctures for epidurals or from the original injury (Dec 1995) which ended up needing to be fixed with L3-S1 fusion (May 2005) which then had hardware failure complications and was redone two months later (Jul 2005).

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Hi @eddougher, I would like to add my welcome to Mayo Connect along with Hazel’s. Connect is a great place to share your story, ask questions and learn what others are doing for treatments of their health concerns. I have heard a few Connect members talk about a spinal cord stimulator that helps with the pain. There is a Sharing Mayo Clinic Stories from patients, family, friends and Mayo Clinic staff that is a story of how it’s helped a Mayo patient here:
http://sharing.mayoclinic.org/2016/10/24/stimulating-activities-after-back-surgery/
An easy way to find another Connect member that has talked about a particular health problem is to click the small search icon (magnifying glass) at the top of the Connect window and type in a search term and press the enter key. I did a search using your phrase “adhesive arachnoiditis” and it shows two links – your’s above and one other. If you search just on arachnoiditis, you will see a lot more links.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/search/?search=+adhesive+arachnoiditis&hub_data_process=&hub_mvc_submitted_form=true&action=wp_handle_upload
Hope this helps,
John

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@chronicbackpainmelissa

Hi Teresa and John,
I have severe bilateral neural foraminal narrowing at L5-S1. Bilateral L5 spondylolysis with spondylolisthesis. Degenerative problems, with constant low back pain. Occasional Sciatica also.
I was a professional ballet dancer, been in car wrecks and lived thru an EF-5 tornado. I lifted patients in wheel chairs to safety in the “war zone” and wrecked my back.

Tried acupuncture, massage, chiro, with little to no results to speak of. Would like to get on a great PT routine, if it’s right for me.

Any suggestions please?

Thank you!

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Hi @chronicbackpainmelissa,

I would like to add my welcome to Teresa and John’s.

I think you may also find this conversation helpful, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/chronic-pain-for-years/. It is centered around chronic back pain and the members have discussed a variety of pains, surgeries, and alternatives.

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@eddougher

Given the dates on the most recent posts, it appears as if this blog might be discontinued but just in case I’ll give it a try anyway. My name is Ed, I’m 56 and live with my partner of 15 years in NYC. I have been dealing with progressive, adhesive arachnoiditis and radiculopathy for most of the past 7-10 years. It’s a long story which I’ll go into if someone asks me to but suffice it to say that it’s not clear whether my pain is the result of failed back surgery and more than 20 spinal punctures for epidurals or from the original injury (Dec 1995) which ended up needing to be fixed with L3-S1 fusion (May 2005) which then had hardware failure complications and was redone two months later (Jul 2005).

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Hello @eddougher,

I would like to add my welcome to @hazelblumberg‘s. This blog is certainly not in danger of being discontinued as Hazel said. You may notice that some discussions are more active than others and so those may have an older date on them, but we do not discontinue any of the discussions. They are generated by members, like yourself, and will fluctuate in their activity level!

You mentioned a few of your diagnoses and I think there are a few more discussions you may want to read through and participate in. If you are replying by email, I suggest clicking on the VIEW & REPLY button at the bottom of this notification.

Here are a few conversations I think may be worth your time, simply click on the link to go them:

– I am desperate to find a dr who treats arachnoiditis, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-desperate-to-find-a-dr-who-treats-arachnoiditis-i-live/ (members who have arachnoiditis reside in this discussion)
– Back Injuries & Treatment, Introduce Yourself, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/back-injuries-treatment-introduce-yourself/
– Chronic Back Pain for Years, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/chronic-pain-for-years/ (members discuss surgeries, failed surgeries, pain, etc.)

If you have any trouble navigating to the above discussions, do not hesitate to ask myself or the Community for help!

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@hazelblumberg

I developed earaches in September 2016. My primary care found no ear or sinus infection and sent me to an ENT, who diagnosed TMJ pain. I went to my dentist for help. He gave me weekly anesthesia shots into trigger points (OUCH!) and exercises to do, including massaging the trigger points and opening my mouth as wide as I could numerous times in the shower while my face was warm and wet. (I have been wearing a night guard made by my dentist for over 20 years; he replaces them as they wear out.) The pain continued and only got worse; it was at the top of my head, in my ears, in my jaw, above my palate (as though I’d eaten hot food). My dentist sent me to an oral surgeon, who did 360-degree x-rays and found no joint damage. He told me I was therefore not a candidate for surgery (YAY!) and prescribed Flexeril, a muscle relaxer. The pain only got worse, and I continued to wake up in the night with horrific pain. Ibuprofen didn’t even touch it.

My dentist then sent me to a physical therapist, who didn’t listen to a word I said. I came in on a “good” pain day: my pain level was about a 5 out of 10 (10 being the worst). After his examination and showing me how to do various exercises, he triumphantly told me that my pain level was now reduced. I said “No. My pain level is now about 7.5.” He said he didn’t believe me. He attempted to push me to go to his outside clinic to get “magnet therapy,” and he tried to push me to see a friend of his who is a naturopath. Two days after this session, I was still in excruciating pain and doubt I’d ever return to this physical therapist, although he had me schedule 4 more 1-hour sessions with him.

I called my dentist again, and he called in a prescription for Tylenol plus codeine, which I can take every 4 to 6 hours. My dentist seems to have no further solutions for me.

My primary care is currently out of town, but I will see her when she gets back (in August); she may be referring me to a pain management specialist, which my dentist recommended–however, my dentist refuses to give me a referral to such a specialist, even though the specialist will take referrals from dentists or doctors.

I have been treated for many years for clinical depression and panic/anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, and the meds have helped me immensely. On Monday I see my psychiatrist for my usual 6-month med check, and I’m going to ask him for help with the terrible TMJ pain. I have also had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. The fibro pain has greatly lessened over time and hardly bothers me, but the CFS continues.

The TMJ pain makes it difficult to concentrate. I’m self-employed, and I enjoy my work. But pain gets in the way, as it does in every single situation: work or pastimes. My dentist mentioned massage therapy, but I’m in too much pain right now to try it. Another friend mentioned using a TENS unit. I feel as though I’m not living; to be in constant pain is hardly living, at least to me.

Any other suggestions? Would a TENS unit help? I’m more than willing to purchase one. I’ll try just about anything to be pain free. Sometimes I am pain free. But I spend about 2 weeks out of every month in serious pain. I am feeling very discouraged.

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@kdubois, @hazelblumberg

I’m also a native up-stater, born in Brockport, lived in Canandaigua from K-10th grade, Jamestown for most of high school, then left NY to go to college. While I was in college in Missouri, my parents moved to California. I’m 67, and hadn’t been back to NY until 10/2015. I hardly recognized my early homes. I like living in central Oregon, where we don’t get a lot of snow or rain. It’s a high desert, lots of sagebrush and junipers, and in the summer, usually smoke from wildfires, which is bad right now. It’s hard on the allergies and mood. I feel like I lost my inertia, which I guess isn’t actually possible, is it.

Jim

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@hazelblumberg

I developed earaches in September 2016. My primary care found no ear or sinus infection and sent me to an ENT, who diagnosed TMJ pain. I went to my dentist for help. He gave me weekly anesthesia shots into trigger points (OUCH!) and exercises to do, including massaging the trigger points and opening my mouth as wide as I could numerous times in the shower while my face was warm and wet. (I have been wearing a night guard made by my dentist for over 20 years; he replaces them as they wear out.) The pain continued and only got worse; it was at the top of my head, in my ears, in my jaw, above my palate (as though I’d eaten hot food). My dentist sent me to an oral surgeon, who did 360-degree x-rays and found no joint damage. He told me I was therefore not a candidate for surgery (YAY!) and prescribed Flexeril, a muscle relaxer. The pain only got worse, and I continued to wake up in the night with horrific pain. Ibuprofen didn’t even touch it.

My dentist then sent me to a physical therapist, who didn’t listen to a word I said. I came in on a “good” pain day: my pain level was about a 5 out of 10 (10 being the worst). After his examination and showing me how to do various exercises, he triumphantly told me that my pain level was now reduced. I said “No. My pain level is now about 7.5.” He said he didn’t believe me. He attempted to push me to go to his outside clinic to get “magnet therapy,” and he tried to push me to see a friend of his who is a naturopath. Two days after this session, I was still in excruciating pain and doubt I’d ever return to this physical therapist, although he had me schedule 4 more 1-hour sessions with him.

I called my dentist again, and he called in a prescription for Tylenol plus codeine, which I can take every 4 to 6 hours. My dentist seems to have no further solutions for me.

My primary care is currently out of town, but I will see her when she gets back (in August); she may be referring me to a pain management specialist, which my dentist recommended–however, my dentist refuses to give me a referral to such a specialist, even though the specialist will take referrals from dentists or doctors.

I have been treated for many years for clinical depression and panic/anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, and the meds have helped me immensely. On Monday I see my psychiatrist for my usual 6-month med check, and I’m going to ask him for help with the terrible TMJ pain. I have also had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. The fibro pain has greatly lessened over time and hardly bothers me, but the CFS continues.

The TMJ pain makes it difficult to concentrate. I’m self-employed, and I enjoy my work. But pain gets in the way, as it does in every single situation: work or pastimes. My dentist mentioned massage therapy, but I’m in too much pain right now to try it. Another friend mentioned using a TENS unit. I feel as though I’m not living; to be in constant pain is hardly living, at least to me.

Any other suggestions? Would a TENS unit help? I’m more than willing to purchase one. I’ll try just about anything to be pain free. Sometimes I am pain free. But I spend about 2 weeks out of every month in serious pain. I am feeling very discouraged.

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@contentedandwell – I love dilaudid.

Jim

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@hazelblumberg

I developed earaches in September 2016. My primary care found no ear or sinus infection and sent me to an ENT, who diagnosed TMJ pain. I went to my dentist for help. He gave me weekly anesthesia shots into trigger points (OUCH!) and exercises to do, including massaging the trigger points and opening my mouth as wide as I could numerous times in the shower while my face was warm and wet. (I have been wearing a night guard made by my dentist for over 20 years; he replaces them as they wear out.) The pain continued and only got worse; it was at the top of my head, in my ears, in my jaw, above my palate (as though I’d eaten hot food). My dentist sent me to an oral surgeon, who did 360-degree x-rays and found no joint damage. He told me I was therefore not a candidate for surgery (YAY!) and prescribed Flexeril, a muscle relaxer. The pain only got worse, and I continued to wake up in the night with horrific pain. Ibuprofen didn’t even touch it.

My dentist then sent me to a physical therapist, who didn’t listen to a word I said. I came in on a “good” pain day: my pain level was about a 5 out of 10 (10 being the worst). After his examination and showing me how to do various exercises, he triumphantly told me that my pain level was now reduced. I said “No. My pain level is now about 7.5.” He said he didn’t believe me. He attempted to push me to go to his outside clinic to get “magnet therapy,” and he tried to push me to see a friend of his who is a naturopath. Two days after this session, I was still in excruciating pain and doubt I’d ever return to this physical therapist, although he had me schedule 4 more 1-hour sessions with him.

I called my dentist again, and he called in a prescription for Tylenol plus codeine, which I can take every 4 to 6 hours. My dentist seems to have no further solutions for me.

My primary care is currently out of town, but I will see her when she gets back (in August); she may be referring me to a pain management specialist, which my dentist recommended–however, my dentist refuses to give me a referral to such a specialist, even though the specialist will take referrals from dentists or doctors.

I have been treated for many years for clinical depression and panic/anxiety disorder by my psychiatrist, and the meds have helped me immensely. On Monday I see my psychiatrist for my usual 6-month med check, and I’m going to ask him for help with the terrible TMJ pain. I have also had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for a long time. The fibro pain has greatly lessened over time and hardly bothers me, but the CFS continues.

The TMJ pain makes it difficult to concentrate. I’m self-employed, and I enjoy my work. But pain gets in the way, as it does in every single situation: work or pastimes. My dentist mentioned massage therapy, but I’m in too much pain right now to try it. Another friend mentioned using a TENS unit. I feel as though I’m not living; to be in constant pain is hardly living, at least to me.

Any other suggestions? Would a TENS unit help? I’m more than willing to purchase one. I’ll try just about anything to be pain free. Sometimes I am pain free. But I spend about 2 weeks out of every month in serious pain. I am feeling very discouraged.

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I went to college in upstate NY: Colgate University, Hamilton, NY, first class of women (class of 1974)!!!!! Haven’t been back upstate in quite some time. Tallahassee, FL, where I live, is so far from everything, including the rest of Florida!

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