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taking 5mg ambian for 20 years can melatonin help to ween me off
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Not me yet, I am taking way too many because my tolerance level is high now with it, I need to get off but don't know how. My insurance doesn't cover mental health for in treatment and I can't afford it. I saw a psychiatrist for a year but she had me on Zombie meds so I weaned myself off them a year later and they were expensive but not treating my insomnia and anxiety issues. $350.00 to see her every 6 months and then the med cost and it wasn't solving my problems. Any ideas other than locking me in a room for 2 weeks and deal with the insomnia. I had it since I was a child so this is a long time of this so Ambien is a lifesaver but killing us at the same time. Before the Psychiatrist I saw a therapist and really felt the need to send me for more care.
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@acura1642 – This website has a lot of great information and links on finding mental health treatment (and prescriptions) when you don't have insurance: http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/paying-care, or http://careforyourmind.org/what-to-do-when-you-cant-afford-therapy/#more-1447. For mental health in particular I thought these were good:
Free Clinics are non-profit organizations that perform medical safety net services for free or at a highly reduced cost. You can find free clinics in your area by visiting http://www.freeclinics.us/.
Free Clinics provide safety net services, which are intended to help people who are ineligible for Medicaid and Medicare but can't find affordable health insurance. They are often found in hospitals or as stand-alone facilities in densely populated areas of poverty. Some, but not all, free clinics provide mental health services in addition to preventative general health and maintenance.
Generally, free clinics will perform services for free, charge a nominal fee ($15/visit, for example), or initiate a sliding scale fee based on your income. , When visiting a free clinic, you may need to take your identification, as well as proof of income, such as a prior year's W2 form. Some clinics may take walk-in clients on a daily basis; others are more like doctor's offices that you will have to join.
Community Mental Health Centers offer low-cost or free care on a sliding scale to the public. Typical services include emergency services, therapy and psychiatric care for adults and for children. You can expect to go through an intake interview that determines the kind of care you will receive. Mental health centers also may offer a variety of services on a long-term basis for clients with persistent mental health conditions. Find your local mental health center by contacting your local government.
Local Nonprofits that aren't specifically designated as health clinics may still have therapists, psychologists, or psychiatrists who donate their time and agree to see patients for free or at a reduced cost. Many groups will organize professionals who will donate some time each week or month to see patients. These professionals will often meet at drop-in centers or other clinics.
Even if community mental health centers or local nonprofits don't have a pro bono program, they may know of other resources available to you in your community.
Medical Schools may provide another way of finding help. Students and interns may meet with clients at a highly reduced rate, if you are comfortable seeing them. These students will be under the supervision of a licensed professional.
Finding Supportive Services
If you are interested in finding supportive services in addition to professional counseling look for these options in your community:
Hotlines and Warmlines provide immediate support by telephone for people in emotional crisis and people with mental health conditions. Where hotlines provide emergency support and crisis intervention, warmlines provide assistance, comfort and referral services. Hotlines and warmlines can be lifesaving, they provide referral to help and care, and they are comforting because they are anonymous and easily accessible by telephone.
Drop-in Centers are organizations that are generally run by people with mental health conditions for their peers. A safe, accepting place to go for company and support. Drop-in centers may organize activities such as support groups or trainings, but they may also be more informal gathering sites.
Support Groups may meet at various places in your community such as churches, schools or government buildings. You can find information about support groups on the Internet, on bulletin boards at local mental health centers and restaurants, or by asking other people with similar conditions. Some support groups also meet anonymously on the Internet, posting on forums or using e-mail to stay in touch. Support groups should either be free or should have a very low cost to cover food or activities ($5 a meeting).
Find a support group here:
The American Self-Help Clearinghouse (http://www.mentalhelp.net/selfhelp/) and the National Mental Health Consumers' Self-Help Clearinghouse (http://www.mhselfhelp.org/) maintain listings of support groups on a broad range of mental health topics. The National Mental Health Consumers' Self-Help Group Clearinghouse also maintains a Directory of Consumer-Driven Services (http://www.cdsdirectory.org/) that includes peer-run organizations throughout the United States that offer a variety of supportive services and activities.
Bottom line, don't let cost prevent you from getting mental health treatment if you need it. I know it can seem overwhelming to try to find a solution when you're overwhelmed with mental or emotional health issues, but mental and emotional health are the foundation for everything else — if that has cracks or is broken, everything else will sink as well. You deserve better. There are people who want to help — don't hesitate to reach out.
I have been using zolpidem 10 mg for sleep every night for the last 15 years. I am an insomniac and I have anxiety, depression and panic disorder. I take Effexor for the panic etc and have started slowly withdrawing from that. I also want to stop taking zolpidem. My doctor has no problem with me staying on it, but I want to be able to sleep normally without taking drugs. Has anyone had any experience with zolpidem dependency?
No ambien for the last 4 nights. Substituted 50 mg, of trapazone and upped Xanax to .5. Still 2 Benadryl , but no melatonin. Slept great 3 out of the 4 nights. Still planning on seeing sleep therapist after my vacation.
Wondering if weaning off one medication by substituting another would cause another addiction issue…a thought.
Probably does, but I’m going to deal with it by seeing my doctor and a specialized sleep insomnia therapist after my Israel trip. But I’ve never gone so long without Ambien. Now I’m just Nervous about a night flight and sleeping.
Thank you so much for your sharing about yourself and what you plan to do. Let me know how you are doing, I need hope ::)
acura1642 – An update – I am now off ambien, Xanax, Benadryl and melatonin. I began by substituting 50 gr trazadone for the ambien and slowly weaned off the other drugs. I have been seeing a sleep therapist for several weeks now. I am down to 37 gr tazadone and will continue to wean off that. I am doing deep breathing exercises along with TM (meditating), Trying to learn not to panic if I can’t sleep. Hope this gives you and others hope.
Hi, @sndishpr – thanks for providing this update and a hopeful message for others. Sounds like you feel your sleep therapist has helped you.
Will you share more about what kinds of deep breathing exercises you are finding helpful, and what kinds of meditation are working for you?
@lisalucier – I’m doing abdominal Or diaphragmatic breathing along with transcendental Meditation for about 5-10 minutes 3 X day. I also just started using blue light blocking computer glasses for reading on my kindle before bed. Truthfully, I don’t know if these techniques are really helping! I am getting less anxious about getting a full, uninterrupted nights sleep. I think that’s the key. – to be less anxious. I still have a ways to go – weaning off the trazodone. Good luck to all going through this .
I have been taking Zolpidem 12.5mg for several years. I started on 5mg about 10 years ago and then went to 10mg. This treatment has worked well for me. I have tried others in the past that were not effective or did not work after a few weeks. I moved to Missouri from Florida over a year ago and set up my PCP at a family practice in the new state. During my time here I have never actually seen the doctor, only Nurse Practitioner. NP called me into the office to tell me the doctor (who has never seen me or spoken to me) has decided he will not refill Zolpidem anymore. I have never had a problem at all on this medication. Now, aside from the sleeplessness I am afraid there will be other withdrawals. Is there something I can do?
Hi, @akubanek, and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. It sounds like the news that your new doctor, whom you've not yet seen, is taking you off the zolpidem came as quite a surprise.
Here is a Mayo Clinic article on Ambien, one of the brand names for zolpidem, that may interest you https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/insomnia/expert-answers/ambien/faq-20058103
I wonder if your new doctor may be concerned about side effects or about the potential for masking an underlying problem, as Dr. Olson talks about in this article?
Would it be possible, @akubanek, to make an appointment to see the doctor specifically, to address your sleep needs and discuss his decision about this medication?
Thank you for your reply. According to the NP he just no longer wants to prescribe "these types" of medications to anyone. He has prescribed me doxipen, and said for a month he will prescribe me 5mg Zolpidem but after that we would have to try other things. Last night was my first night on the new regimen and of course, I am awake after 2 hours, crying because I know that there are days of not sleeping ahead of me.
Hi @akubanek , I feel for you. My PCP was adamant that I stopped Ambien. If you read my posts, you’ll see how I weaned off all my meds. The first thing I did was substitute Trazadone [50 mg) for the Ambien. I am now down to 25 mg Trazadone. I am working with a sleep therapist. I am having trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. I use the Calm app to help fall asleep. You can get a free trial for 7 days. I like the sleep stories. I am learning to use my bed for sleeping only. I read in a comfortable chair in another room. Don’t lie in bed for more than 20 minutes trying to sleep. The more anxious you get about not sleeping, the more difficult it will be to sleep. Good luck.
Thank you for your reply. Last night was another night of waking every 20 minutes or so and getting more and more frustrated. I have tried so many things over the years. I had to take Trazadone once because I had pneumonia and in the hospital. They wouldn't give me the Ambien because they said it affects the breathing and with pneumonia my breathing was already affected. I was awake for two days taking that. I only use my bed for sleeping and have for years. I have spent thousands of dollars making my bedroom as comfortable as possible. I just don't understand what is going on. How can a doctor that has never treated me or even spoken to me change a treatment plan simply because he thinks everyone should be off Ambien? I feel depressed and defeated because I can see my future and it is just long nights of wanting to sleep and days of being mad and unhappy because I haven't gotten enough sleep. I know people on here know how I feel, but right now its a very lonely feeling.
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