I have a very high calcium score. What next?

Posted by dpframing @dpframing, Aug 24, 2018

Just joined the site and I'm looking to share with others who have had a high calcium score. I found out today that mine is 2996 and I am scared by this. I am 61 and I am totally asymptomatic. Now I feel like a walking time bomb. I am thinking of requesting an angiogram to see if there's any narrowing anywhere and if it can be corrected with a stent. After a second heart doctor told me that the plaque buildup might be uniform over the course of years with no big problem areas, I am encouraged. But the score still freaks me out, specifically my LAD at 1333. I don't smoke or drink but I have to lose 40 lbs.

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@mayoconnectuser1

I've had two - over three years. 15% increase per year ... not uncommon, especially given the known calcification effect statins have on plaque.

I have never heard of a calcium score decreasing.

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wow thanks. that's a real world test and upsetting to know it doesn't go down.

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@writer418

wow thanks. that's a real world test and upsetting to know it doesn't go down.

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I think the point, writer418, is that a LOT of patients, a LOT of medical scientists, a LOT of medical doctors and surgeons are trying to find a way to make calcium go away.

If there is any light in the cloud it is that calcified plaque may be better than uncalcified plaque ...

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@writer418

But my question remains. Forget studies for a moment. Has anyone here had real life experience in taking a second or third CT Calcium scan and did the results go up, down or not move at all? Surely someone has done this. I'm curious. Not interested....for the moment...in studies and Youtube docs. thanks.

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My doctor told me not to bother with future calcium scans, the initial scan is just to verify the plaque and then make lifestyle changes accordingly, also statins will certainly cause that score to go way up, which is a good thing as the plaque is becoming stabilized as mentioned by other users.

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@writer418

I have a question for you or anyone. When I was told I had a score of 642, I was shocked and then determined to bring it down. My cardiologist said it's not a test to take often and suggested maybe in 10 years. Has anyone here had a test go down after making changes and how long did it take before you had another calcium test? Has anyone had more than one? And what were the results?

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There is article recently written and the author has taken three calcium scans in 20 years and he is reporting the results of the third scan soon and what ramifications there are based on his diet/statin use/exercise etc, I'm can't post the URL but it's the Courier Journal in Louisville KY and the author is Bryant Stamford.

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@mayoconnectuser1

christianzane,

You need to post the links to those studies that show regression of calcification. To be clear ... by this you mean reduction in current calcium vs slowing of calcium buildup, yes?

I was under the impression that calcium cannot be reduced.

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Hi yes sorry to clarify, the calcification regression is different than the plaque, although I have seen some studies which I can’t post that have alleged to lower the actual calcification with cinacalcet and vitamin D derivatives, Vitamin K2, etc, and of course surgery (intravascular lithotripsy) has proven to break up the calcified plaque.

The lowering of the LDL cholesterol which I mentioned below 65 may reduce plaque volume and change the plaque composition which is what reduces the cholesterol-rich core, leaving the fibrotic and calcified component fixed. This leads to greater stability and potentially less CAD event chances.

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@christianzane

There is article recently written and the author has taken three calcium scans in 20 years and he is reporting the results of the third scan soon and what ramifications there are based on his diet/statin use/exercise etc, I'm can't post the URL but it's the Courier Journal in Louisville KY and the author is Bryant Stamford.

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@christianzane and @mayoconnectuser1, there is a brief period where new members can't post links. We do this to deter spammers and keep the community safe.

Christian, I believe this is the article you wished to link to:
- How this special heart scan could help you stop high cholesterol in its path https://www.courier-journal.com/story/life/wellness/health/2022/02/03/how-coronary-calcium-scans-can-help-lower-atherosclerosis-cholesterol/6636627001/

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My apologies on not understanding why christian could not post links - I have seen so much bogus info on so many things I have become too suspicious.

So, to the fellow who wrote the article - at age 56 he was at the MESA 75th percentile - and, 14 years later he was at the 53 percentile - so, his lifestyle changes may have resulted in slower calcification - BUT, it could also simply be the rate his calcification was happening - depending on when it started. I don't quite understand the chest X-ray comparison.

Now, since he started statins in 2016, I suspect the curve will change for his calcification - it should show an acceleration as the statin starts to calcify the plaque, but again, the data from a test sooner than seven years isn't as useful statistically than one having been done a year or two after having started statins.

Another note - this fellow sounds like a perfect case for someone who SHOULD be taking statins - but, his "pride" kept him from doing so? And, he makes no further comment about how silly and dangerous it is to be prideful?

Finally - his article is written to be readable, but good grief, he left out so much information - and, missed several opportunities to HELP people. He also provided no relevant links to useful sites that help people. Arrgh ... and this quote from the article - "ultra-sophisticated, expensive, and potentially risky invasive medical procedures"- is he talking about heart catheterization? If so, only the last point might be true - this is a standard of care procedure doing zillions of times a year all over the world. The author is accidentally and unnecessarily frightening people. Hopefully, he will figure our where his "breaks" (sp) are.

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@colleenyoung

@christianzane and @mayoconnectuser1, there is a brief period where new members can't post links. We do this to deter spammers and keep the community safe.

Christian, I believe this is the article you wished to link to:
- How this special heart scan could help you stop high cholesterol in its path https://www.courier-journal.com/story/life/wellness/health/2022/02/03/how-coronary-calcium-scans-can-help-lower-atherosclerosis-cholesterol/6636627001/

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Yes that's it thank you! The author of that article states he took a third calcium scan in 20 years and at the end of the article he states he will post the findings soon, will be curious how his scan numbers have gone up and at what rate etc on the statins. I'm sure the numbers will show a rapid progression of calcium past a 10-20% rate but this stabilization of the plaque is most likely a good thing.

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@riflemanz64

Mine was 573 and I'm going to watch my diet, fast walk 2 miles every day, lose 7# to get to 175#. Take my lipator and zetia every day with a baby aspirin. I'm not going to worry about this. If my Dr. says to see a cardiologist I will. I'm just going to live life.

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I got my score today and it was 580. I started a lifestyle change August, 2022 so I have no idea what the score was then. I going to continue to exercise and lose more weight. I plan to get a coronary angiogram to further document my condition. I am going to no dwell on this too much and begin to enjoy my retirement which starts June 1st! By the way, I am 65.

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Mine was 573 and I’m 67. Dr said just take a baby aspirin. I will attempt to cut out all Saturated fat I can and eat healthy. I walk 2 miles a day at a brisk pace. Good luck to you.

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