Want to connect with people dealing with hypnic headaches

Posted by Avion @benchi300, Jun 18, 2023

I'm looking for people that are dealing with hypnic headaches for a few years. Besides the usual treatment did you find anything new that helps ? have anyone tried the injections (Aimovig, Ajovy, Emgality) they usually give for people with migraines and if so , did it help with your hypnic headaches? Also if caffeine is still your 'go to' did a special brand worked better? Thanks for your help!

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@mlpults looked up Fiorcet, and to me it’s iffy because of the barbiturate and addiction . Also it stays active in the body over 23 hours. Not good if you have to take it often. Indomethicine stays around 5 hours. And it does make me sleepy after about an hour.

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@mlpults hi all fellow sufferers 😬

I go to bed around 10:30 -11:00 most nights and it wakes me about 3 hours later. Between 2:00 and 3:30. If really tired and I go down at 9:30 , then it comes at 12:30-1:00.
I keep a record on the wall calendar with red masking tape for a headache, blue for sumatriptan .
I think it’s getting worse. Average 2 to 3 nights per week with no headaches. The rest I’m up for at least 2 hours with a headache. Sometimes it lasts all night and into the day . And then I take a sumatriptan. I’ve tried taking melatonin before bed, and it seems to make it worse. So I don’t see a cure, I’m not the only one . It could be worse. But duchess926 your post reinforces that…..my cure is 20 -30 minutes of light to medium exercise gets rid of it usually. Good luck all. It’s been 11 years. I’m 71.

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@mlpults - Hi….so my go to meds have been Fiorcet (the real and the generic) and generally it worked like a charm ….it took away my headache in less than 30 minutes and i went right back to sleep….daytime and evening, no problem…i’ve been a night owl all my life and then tried changing my sleep habits!! Nope…headache showed up like clockwork 2-3 hours after falling asleep!

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@duchess926 - you've posted here in a Mayo Clinic Connect discussion on hypnic headache, so I think you are in exactly the place you wanted to be.

If you want to see all the posts you have ever made, go to the icon that looks like the outline of a person at the top right of any page on Connect and click on it. That will take you to a menu that includes "My Profile." Click on that. Then on the left menu, click on "Comments." You will then see every post/comment you have ever made on Mayo Clinic Connect.

You mentioned going to a neurologist for your headaches. Have you been to a neurologist who specializes in headache?

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@lisalucier - Hi Lisa…thanks for your reply… Yes, i am going to a Neurologist in NYC who is part of the “Headache Division” at Cornell Weil…i do a lot of my own research and have discovered various methods and devices beyond the realm of taking a pill every day..i think you have to be your own advocate these days…

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@lisalucier - Hi…i posted a comment on Hypnic Headaches but not sure where it went??? I would like to join in the community for Hypnic Headaches…

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@duchess926 - you've posted here in a Mayo Clinic Connect discussion on hypnic headache, so I think you are in exactly the place you wanted to be.

If you want to see all the posts you have ever made, go to the icon that looks like the outline of a person at the top right of any page on Connect and click on it. That will take you to a menu that includes "My Profile." Click on that. Then on the left menu, click on "Comments." You will then see every post/comment you have ever made on Mayo Clinic Connect.

You mentioned going to a neurologist for your headaches. Have you been to a neurologist who specializes in headache?

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@mlpults hi all fellow sufferers 😬

I go to bed around 10:30 -11:00 most nights and it wakes me about 3 hours later. Between 2:00 and 3:30. If really tired and I go down at 9:30 , then it comes at 12:30-1:00.
I keep a record on the wall calendar with red masking tape for a headache, blue for sumatriptan .
I think it’s getting worse. Average 2 to 3 nights per week with no headaches. The rest I’m up for at least 2 hours with a headache. Sometimes it lasts all night and into the day . And then I take a sumatriptan. I’ve tried taking melatonin before bed, and it seems to make it worse. So I don’t see a cure, I’m not the only one . It could be worse. But duchess926 your post reinforces that…..my cure is 20 -30 minutes of light to medium exercise gets rid of it usually. Good luck all. It’s been 11 years. I’m 71.

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@mlpults one more thing, after exercising the headache is gone but it’s very hard to fall back asleep, thus up for 2 hours.

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@mlpults hi all fellow sufferers 😬

I go to bed around 10:30 -11:00 most nights and it wakes me about 3 hours later. Between 2:00 and 3:30. If really tired and I go down at 9:30 , then it comes at 12:30-1:00.
I keep a record on the wall calendar with red masking tape for a headache, blue for sumatriptan .
I think it’s getting worse. Average 2 to 3 nights per week with no headaches. The rest I’m up for at least 2 hours with a headache. Sometimes it lasts all night and into the day . And then I take a sumatriptan. I’ve tried taking melatonin before bed, and it seems to make it worse. So I don’t see a cure, I’m not the only one . It could be worse. But duchess926 your post reinforces that…..my cure is 20 -30 minutes of light to medium exercise gets rid of it usually. Good luck all. It’s been 11 years. I’m 71.

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Hi, @kjs1255, and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. So that you can connect with others discussing hypnic headache, I've moved your post here:

- Want to connect with people dealing with hypnic headaches https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/trying-to-connect-with-people-dealing-with-hypnic-headaches

Hoping members like @kmsb @taterjoy @leannestork in this discussion can empathize with your situation and provide some support and ideas. I also thought members like @lisafl @dawn_giacabazi @cherylsd @lulu1962 @lauriedr @shaylala @bernese53 @gussie @kdubois might like to join this discussion. These members may have thoughts on managing hypnic headache with avoiding food triggers or standing upright. They also may have tips and tricks of their own for headache management.

kjs1255 - how are your hypnic headaches affecting your sleep this month? Are you waking up with them frequently?

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@lisalucier - Hi…i posted a comment on Hypnic Headaches but not sure where it went??? I would like to join in the community for Hypnic Headaches…

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Hi All….i’m a little lost on these posts…I made a post on HypnicHeadaches i think but not sure where it went and how to find it??

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I have been diagnosed with hypnic headaches by a neurologist. Have had all the screening tests. Am 71 year old female,and have had this about 10 years. Last year tried nurtec for 6 months, and didn’t work.
Headaches come 3 hours after sleep. Usually 1 or 2 am. Am now taking 25mg indomethicin at time of headache and then bike and or work out for 1/2 hour. Usually works. But sometimes it reoccurs around 5 AM so another bike ride . If it continues into the morning, early afternoon I take a sumatriptan.
Have tried to fool it by taking indo. At 2 1/2 hours after sleep,before the headache, but it comes back at 4 or 5 AM.
Melatonin increased the intensity of the headache. Topiramate did not work and side effects were awful. It’s on the right side of my head and is medium dull . Coffee before bed is hit and miss. Will try Death Wish coffee. I average 15 to 18 times a month , sometimes more sometimes less.

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@mlpults - Hi.. I am new to this group but happy to find other people that have hypnic headaches. I am 83 years old and have been having these headaches since 2019. I think they are a side effect from my trigeminal nerve pain which was caused by a dentist. my question to anyone reading this post is about the time you all go to sleep. I tend to be a night owl and find that no matter what time I go to bed my headache occurs about two hours during my REM sleep …my Neurologist kept insisting that I don’t have hypnic because of the hour my headache occurs. My feeling is that it doesn’t matter when you go to sleep …it will occur about two hours after you go into a deep sleep, I have been taking Fiorcet for it, which worked really well as i managed to fall back to sleep after popping the pill and everything during the day and evening was really fine. apparently there is no information about the cause but my research shows that it might be a malfunctioning hypothalamus, messed up melatonin and circadian rhythm.

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Hi @caj23 - I believe your message to @benchi300 may have gotten cut off somehow, and you may wish to repost it.

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