Total Pancreatectomy

Posted by Luckyone4321 @luckyone4321, Jan 25, 2020

Hello everyone! I am brand new to this site so please bear with me! I am a 31 year old female and here is my story and questions...in 2010 I had a benign tumor removed off of the tail of my pancreas without any problems, in 2017 I had a malignant tumor on the head of my pancreas and had to have a Whipple Procedure, and not even 6 months later the cancer had spread to the rest of my pancreas and I had Pancreatic Cancer. I didn't have time to do chemo or radiation, a total pancreatectomy was my only option. They removed my entire pancreas, gall bladder, spleen, some of my stomach, and some of my small intestine (Duodenum). Recovery wasn't easy, especially adapting to now being a Type 1 Diabetic and having to take pancreatic enzymes before eating anything just to be able to digest any food. I had several complications following the Whipple and Total Pancreatectomy (as well as removing other organs). I am coming up on two years post op and I feel like I am still struggling! I suffer from severe fatigue, nausea/vomiting (causing me to lose over 20 pounds), diarrhea, stomach pain, and uncontrollable blood sugars. I have been searching the internet for someone "like me!" I have found people who have had the TPAIT procedure or a Distal Pancreatectomy but not a Total Pancreatectomy due to Pancreatic Cancer. I stumbled upon this page and I am hoping someone can give me some insight on what I'm going through. Since my pancreatectomy, every single time I eat I get sick and it has affected all aspects of my life including my relationships and my job. I lost my job due to my current health condition and am fighting hard to get disability, spending most of my days in bed (which is hard having a young child). Anyway, I take Creon with all of my food and am about to have a Gastric Emptying Test done to check for Gastroparesis or Dumping Syndrome. Has anyone had a total pancreatectomy and struggled so bad after the surgery? If so, did you ever really get your life back or did your body eventually get used to digesting food this way and did the constant stomach pain ever stop? My surgeon made it sound like I would absolutely have issues for at least one year after the surgery and that Gastroparesis was very likely but since they removed some of my stomach and a specific valve...I feel like I would have the opposite and have Dumping Syndrome. My apologies for such a long post and for jumping all over the place. If anyone has any recommendations or suggestions to possibly improve my quality of life, that would be much appreciated. I am desperate and looking for answers or wanting to find someone who can at least relate. Thank you for all of your help!

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I don’t have any to share to help but thank you for sharing. The disease came back after having the Whipple and the plan is to removing the entire pancreas. I hope others will respond to give more insight. Your response helps me with maybe what to expect. Praying the decision is better. I women on the FB Whipple group responded to my question on what I’d like after having the entire pancreas’s removed. She shared with me that 2025 will make 19 years of her being cancer free. She leaned to manage her diabetes, other also shared the importance of having extra devices because sometimes they don’t work and extra insulin since there are times the pharmacy is out. No one shared a lot of details as I had hoped for. I don’t think it will be easy, it’s been three years and I’m still grateful to be alive but fighting.

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I have a question. After your Whipple surgery, which doesn't sound like it was a real Whipple, did you receive chemotherapy, starting within 60 days of your Whipple?

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I am praying for you. It sounds like you are a strong woman and have gone thru a lot. This is a horrible desease that has many bad side effects. Stay strong.

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@vector

I have a question. After your Whipple surgery, which doesn't sound like it was a real Whipple, did you receive chemotherapy, starting within 60 days of your Whipple?

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What is your definition to constitute what a "real" Whipple is?

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@sloped483

What is your definition to constitute what a "real" Whipple is?

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In this case, they take the pancreas head, the duodenum, the gall bladder, maybe the stomach pylorus, and the bile duct. (Sounds like the stomach was involved, but maybe they just took the pylorus, which is the surgeon’s call at the time.) They then attach the body-tail of the pancreas to the top of the small intestine, below that a new bile duct, and below that the stomach. It sort of reverses the sequence from the natural state.

The larger question is post surgery chemotherapy. If that wasn’t the protocol, why?

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@vector , In my case, 12 rounds of Folfirinox over 6 months was considered "TNT" (TOTAL Neoadjuvant Therapy) and based on the studies they developed that protocol from, Adjuvant therapy was not considered necessary if there were negative margins and lymph nodes from the Whipple and NED afterward. I met all those, and had a clean MRI one month after surgery, followed by two clean Signatera tests and one clean Galleri test two months after that. The only hint something was wrong one month after that was rising CA19-9 (up to a "whopping" 77) but the MRI that accompanied it found a 1.3 cm mass at the original Whipple site (anastomosis where remaining pancreas was connected to jejunum). Even then, an EUS biopsy took 4 samples which were all negative, even though it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC. I asked for a PET scan as a tiebreaker and they said no.

Which leads me to the part for @christie4re : The tumor board recommended doing nothing until after new imaging 6 weeks later, my oncologist didn't recommend chemo without definitive evidence of disease. At the new imaging, the mass was 2 cm and CA19-9 was up to 277, so they concluded it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC, but thankfully they didn't spot any mets. The surgeon didn't want to touch it unless I did 3 months of chemo with good evidence of control first. By the time I got second and third opinions with different imaging, 1 met was spotted and all the surgeons I talked to ruled surgery out.

In hindsight, if I could have gotten surgery to remove the rest of the pancreas at any point (between initial discovery of the recurrence, up to and including the first met), I would have done it. The reason being that the recurrent tumor was very aggressive, and it eventually grew to block my gastric outlet and partially infiltrate the stomach, which have caused numerous complications. I would have attacked the main/worst tumor with the potential to create problems first, and then worried about the met(s) later.

I have no medical training, but that's my experience and perspective. I hope you are still a candidate for the total/remnant pancreatectomy when the time comes, and that you and your doctors are comfortable with it, before it's too late and they start changing their mind.

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@markymarkfl

@vector , In my case, 12 rounds of Folfirinox over 6 months was considered "TNT" (TOTAL Neoadjuvant Therapy) and based on the studies they developed that protocol from, Adjuvant therapy was not considered necessary if there were negative margins and lymph nodes from the Whipple and NED afterward. I met all those, and had a clean MRI one month after surgery, followed by two clean Signatera tests and one clean Galleri test two months after that. The only hint something was wrong one month after that was rising CA19-9 (up to a "whopping" 77) but the MRI that accompanied it found a 1.3 cm mass at the original Whipple site (anastomosis where remaining pancreas was connected to jejunum). Even then, an EUS biopsy took 4 samples which were all negative, even though it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC. I asked for a PET scan as a tiebreaker and they said no.

Which leads me to the part for @christie4re : The tumor board recommended doing nothing until after new imaging 6 weeks later, my oncologist didn't recommend chemo without definitive evidence of disease. At the new imaging, the mass was 2 cm and CA19-9 was up to 277, so they concluded it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC, but thankfully they didn't spot any mets. The surgeon didn't want to touch it unless I did 3 months of chemo with good evidence of control first. By the time I got second and third opinions with different imaging, 1 met was spotted and all the surgeons I talked to ruled surgery out.

In hindsight, if I could have gotten surgery to remove the rest of the pancreas at any point (between initial discovery of the recurrence, up to and including the first met), I would have done it. The reason being that the recurrent tumor was very aggressive, and it eventually grew to block my gastric outlet and partially infiltrate the stomach, which have caused numerous complications. I would have attacked the main/worst tumor with the potential to create problems first, and then worried about the met(s) later.

I have no medical training, but that's my experience and perspective. I hope you are still a candidate for the total/remnant pancreatectomy when the time comes, and that you and your doctors are comfortable with it, before it's too late and they start changing their mind.

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Hello, were you being treated at Mayo or Moffit? Thanks,

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@markymarkfl

@vector , In my case, 12 rounds of Folfirinox over 6 months was considered "TNT" (TOTAL Neoadjuvant Therapy) and based on the studies they developed that protocol from, Adjuvant therapy was not considered necessary if there were negative margins and lymph nodes from the Whipple and NED afterward. I met all those, and had a clean MRI one month after surgery, followed by two clean Signatera tests and one clean Galleri test two months after that. The only hint something was wrong one month after that was rising CA19-9 (up to a "whopping" 77) but the MRI that accompanied it found a 1.3 cm mass at the original Whipple site (anastomosis where remaining pancreas was connected to jejunum). Even then, an EUS biopsy took 4 samples which were all negative, even though it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC. I asked for a PET scan as a tiebreaker and they said no.

Which leads me to the part for @christie4re : The tumor board recommended doing nothing until after new imaging 6 weeks later, my oncologist didn't recommend chemo without definitive evidence of disease. At the new imaging, the mass was 2 cm and CA19-9 was up to 277, so they concluded it was indeed a malignant recurrence of PDAC, but thankfully they didn't spot any mets. The surgeon didn't want to touch it unless I did 3 months of chemo with good evidence of control first. By the time I got second and third opinions with different imaging, 1 met was spotted and all the surgeons I talked to ruled surgery out.

In hindsight, if I could have gotten surgery to remove the rest of the pancreas at any point (between initial discovery of the recurrence, up to and including the first met), I would have done it. The reason being that the recurrent tumor was very aggressive, and it eventually grew to block my gastric outlet and partially infiltrate the stomach, which have caused numerous complications. I would have attacked the main/worst tumor with the potential to create problems first, and then worried about the met(s) later.

I have no medical training, but that's my experience and perspective. I hope you are still a candidate for the total/remnant pancreatectomy when the time comes, and that you and your doctors are comfortable with it, before it's too late and they start changing their mind.

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Interesting that they did not move forward with chemo after your surgery. My wife's team put that in the protocol from the very start, six months of Gemcitabine starting two months after Whipple surgery. In fact, they got a bit antsy when her recovery was so difficult and they had to delay by two weeks the start of chemo. Surgery recovery continues and it is now 15 1/2 months since the surgery.

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