The waiting is terrible: Husband has Stage 4 prostate cancer
My husband just got diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer.
This is how it started.... He's 55 and in good shape/ works out and eats right etc. The last year or so he's had urinary problems or frequencies and ED, but all of last year was super stressful, he lost his job and his parents passed away after he/we were taking care of them (in their 90s) He finally went to the doctor and thought he just had enlarge prostate etc and wanted it checked out. PSA was 251!! Then that triggered him getting a CT scan two days later and that showed cancer and in the lymph nodes (googled it and it shows stage 4 or 3), met with a urologist a few days later and he confirmed LATE stage prostate cancer (stage 4) but want to do a biopsy, which he got gone a week or so later and Gleason scores were mostly 8 and 9s and groups were 4 and 5s....referral to oncologist still, then in the meantime the PSMA PET scan two days ago and at night the results showed heavily in the lungs, lymph nodes, bones, skeleton, pelvic area etc...(again we google stuff and knew it was bad) we can't see the oncologist until 10 days from now! the waiting is terrible!!
We don't even know if they can do anything!!
The only symptoms are frequent peeing (or at least trying) about every hour and ever since this started I noticed a slight cough, nothing major but I immediately thought LUNGS (and was sadly right)
Just really sad....
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Yeah the chemo is what terrifies my husband! He can't do the second part (zytiga?) ADT pills because his liver enzymes are high....I'm hoping he'll do chemo soon to get some relief. He's weak now, tired, can only sleep about an hour and a half at a time at night, has pain other places too. I lost my mom a week ago and I'm dealing with that too, then thinking about losing my husband because he won't do the protocol treatment....life really sucks but I have my faith and know God will get me through it all.
You need to see an oncologist for advanced cancer, and not just a urologist. Definitely make sure you go directly to the right type of doc so you don’t waste time. With his widespread tumors, I think they might recommend aggressive systemic treatment of chemo.
Pluvicto works best for tumors in bones, but not as well for soft tissue tumors. Possibly ADT immediately, then chemo asap, then down the road, Pluvicto for remaining tumors. My husband is at the end of 6 years of numerous types of treatments.
It's a urology oncologist
I had a prostaectomy, very thankful, no side effects and I have a penile implant that works great and I never have to be concerned about losing an erection, even after orgasm. My wife and I are very satisfied with it. I almost wish I had it 40 years ago.
A genitourinary (GU) oncologist is an oncologist who specializes in cancer of the genitourinary system, including prostate cancer. I think that is what you mean.
@beaquilter your story is almost identical to what my husband is going through. Initial PSA in December elevated, biopsy in January with Gleason 8/9, PET in Feb shows Mets. Started Lupron and Abiraterone 2/3 weeks ago. Radiation to start in 3 weeks. Thankful for a great oncologist and radiologist explaining everything. We are southeastern VA.
Thanks! My husband has only done the monthly Firmagon shots because he was afraid of the Lupron side effects after the first shot of Firmagon he didn't want to switch (the doctor chose Firmagon FIRST because Lupron raises PSA/ testosterone for a while before it goes down so this way the Firmagon only lowers it) at the 2nd appointment my husband still chose to do another Firmagon shot, he was supposed to do Zytiga too but because he took a bunch of supplements, his liver ALT and AST shot up and he had to go thru a lot to test it wasn't the cancer but all those supplements are gone and the Liver is almost back to normal, so last week he started Zytiga, he was supposed to take 1000mg on an empty stomach but he found several research studies that were made during covid when there was a shortage on supplies, that 250mg WITH food is JUST as effective, so he's doing that... We're going back to the oncologist Thursday, and then we'll start talking about Chemo as well, up until a few weeks ago my husband refused Chemo, but several friends who are medical people urged him to do it. Radiation is way down the road, they are not talking about it now, though we met the radiologist at the first appointment. But the metastasis is all over his body, lungs, bones, spine, hip, lymph nodes etc..... I think as long as my husband is doing the chemo, it's a step in the right direction, but he's already mentally prepared to stop after 4 doses (Dr. Google said something about dose 5 and 6 are not really that effective) but our oncology nurse friend says it's like stopping antibiotics early before you're supposed to, of course if the doctor says something else and if it's worse than death, then stop.... But gosh, such a stubborn patient!
I am losing my mind, my inlaws passed away in the fall (hubby and a nurse took care of them full time at the end, otherwise I was their driver for years) then my mom overseas passed away 2 weeks after my husband's diagnosis! (from grief!- though she had a lot of things wrong already) we buried their ashes under 3 trees a week ago, it made me sad of thinking of all 3 of them so sickly and dying, that there will be a point when my husband will get to that! Right now he doesn't look sick at all and has minor side effects, Chemo will make him lose his hair and probably look more sick!? It just really sucks.
Orgovyx is essentially Firmagon in daily pill format (they're both GnRH antagonists), so if he wants to forgo the monthly shots, that might be a gentler option for ADT. It made a big difference for me going from Firmagon to Orgovyx a year ago (I don't suffer the acute post-injection symptoms any more, just the chronic ADT ones).
Good that he’s receiving treatment and sounds like his doctors have him on a plan to address his disease. Being the support spouse is tough. Husbands often aren’t the best communicators, planners or organizers. My sisters-in-laws are super supportive and there when I need a listener. When mine was first diagnosed it was a shock and felt ominous. Knowing more about his disease and the plan moving forward has helped relieve those feelings of dread. The plan is to manage the disease. There is no cure but there are lots of options to stop and slow the progression. If one stops working, we try another. Initially we weren’t able to think about the future because it felt like death would be right around the corner. But knowing that men live for many years managing prostate cancer has helped lift that dark cloud. If your husband does try Lupron there is a drug, Casodex, they give for several days that blocks the effects of the testosterone surge. I will say all these hormones mine is taking make him a bit more moody. Told him, welcome to menopause.
If it helps, in my case the moodiness was worst during the first six months on ADT. After that, my body started rebalancing. By a year, I was mostly back to normal, mood-wise (I'll be passing my 4 year anniversary on ADT this fall). Even the hot flushes have become rarer.
And you're right that communication is key. Your husband or you need to ask the questions, and keep telling the doctors and nurses what he wants at every visit. Don't worry about repeating yourselves. Self-advocacy can be as important as any drug.