GCA (Giant Cell Arteritis) and PMR (polymyalgia rheumatica)

Posted by dar9216 @dar9216, Jan 7, 2021

I was diagnosed a little over two years ago with GCA (Giant Cell Arteritis) and polymyalgia. Down to 1 mg of Prednisone/day, started at 60 mg. Anyone else have this combination?

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@artist01

@tsc, @jabrown0407 . Great advice, Teri, to get right to Emergency if eye issues present! I permanently lost most of the vision in my right eye when GCA was 'suspected' in March 2019 but not treated until emergency hospital admission in June 2019, when that vision loss suddenly happened at home one morning.

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I was fortunate @artist01 in that the loss of vision was short and only happened twice. If it happened again, I would have gotten an appointment with the optometrist, but I never would have thought to go to the Emergency Room. When GCA was suspected, were you prescribed prednisone?

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@norieaugustine

I am okay with some pain when I lower my dosage of Prednisone, rather than no pain with the higher dose. But does this mean more risk of developing GCA? PMR is bad enough but GCA sounds much worse.

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@tsc. No, Teri. Even though I had been to Emergency five times because of right temporal and scalp pain, GCA wasn't on the doctors' radars until I suddenly loss most of my right eye vision. THEN I was hurried off to hospital Admitting on an emergency basis, direct from a specialist's office! It happened to be my birthday and the doctor wouldn't even allow my friend and I to stop for a burger on the way! I was put on 1000 mg Prednisone by I.V. for 3 days to save my "good" eye from blindness.

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@tsc

Hi @jabrown0407, I had PMR, undiagnosed, a number of months before being diagnosed with GCA. With PMR, I had pain and stiffness (a 10 on a scale of 1-10) from the neck down. After about 9 months, that gave way to an incredibly stiff neck, with pain as if lines were drawn on either side of my head from the neck up to the ears. Also, short stabbing pains from the ear to the nose, they were fleeting, but they increased in number. A few days before my temporal artery biopsy I counted 25 pains. I had scalp tenderness that lasted a couple of weeks, then disappeared, difficulty seeing out of my right eye a couple of times (everything was white) and a dry cough every night, The eye problems are nothing to mess with. Since having them, I've been advised to get to an emergency room immediately if they ever recur. I wish you the best

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Please do not wait with the eye problems. It is imperative that you get help immediately.

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@norieaugustine

I am okay with some pain when I lower my dosage of Prednisone, rather than no pain with the higher dose. But does this mean more risk of developing GCA? PMR is bad enough but GCA sounds much worse.

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You are so right, @tillysam. I have a tendency to minimize my symptoms whenever I can. I am fortunate that it did not have disastrous consequences for my vision.

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@norieaugustine

I am okay with some pain when I lower my dosage of Prednisone, rather than no pain with the higher dose. But does this mean more risk of developing GCA? PMR is bad enough but GCA sounds much worse.

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What I have learned is that we have to be on top of things so that nothing disastrous happens. Not sure of something, call your doctor. Do not put things off.

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@tillysam

What I have learned is that we have to be on top of things so that nothing disastrous happens. Not sure of something, call your doctor. Do not put things off.

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Agree. I am fortunate to have a doctor who believes that his patients are his greatest source of information. We work as co-creators with his medical knowledge and my body health self-awareness. I hope this doesn’t sound arrogant but I really do believe that we are entitled to be our own advocates for our health and well-being. Mayo Clinic is an amazing source of information And I try to gather as much information as I can to be informed

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@norieaugustine

I am okay with some pain when I lower my dosage of Prednisone, rather than no pain with the higher dose. But does this mean more risk of developing GCA? PMR is bad enough but GCA sounds much worse.

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Hello everyone. I’m so happy to have found this place. I have had symptoms of PMR and GCA for months now. Been to 2 rheumatoid drs and no diagnosis. If fact, my long time rheumatoid dr left and the new guy took me off my meds without even seeing me or a phone call 😡
I feel like I’m dying. I told this to my last Dr at my evaluation. My blood results came back showing nothing and I was referred to pain management 😳🙄 ( august 24th)
I don’t know what to do or where to go. The headaches and pressure in my neck…and the back and arm pain are bad.
Will pain management be able to diagnose me? And treat me? I’m so frustrated 😤

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@dmoonchild

Hello everyone. I’m so happy to have found this place. I have had symptoms of PMR and GCA for months now. Been to 2 rheumatoid drs and no diagnosis. If fact, my long time rheumatoid dr left and the new guy took me off my meds without even seeing me or a phone call 😡
I feel like I’m dying. I told this to my last Dr at my evaluation. My blood results came back showing nothing and I was referred to pain management 😳🙄 ( august 24th)
I don’t know what to do or where to go. The headaches and pressure in my neck…and the back and arm pain are bad.
Will pain management be able to diagnose me? And treat me? I’m so frustrated 😤

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Hi @dmoonchild, autoimmune diseases, like PMR and GCA, are notorious for being troublesome to diagnose. You only have to see these related discussions to realize that you are unfortunately not alone in your pursuit of a proper diagnosis and how to get one.

- Is everyone here diagnosed with PMR seeing a rheumatologist? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/rheumatologist-1/
- Do I really have PMR? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/so-i-really-have-pmr/
- PMR initial diagnosis: Can there be an underlying disease? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-initial-diagnosis-1/
- Were you misdiagnosed with PMR? What was your diagnosis?https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/misdiagnosis/

I'm sure @pickle7 @tsc @novabill @marilynredder2367 @milld835 @susan63 @microbe1943 @lmoross and other members can share stories and tips with you too.

Moonchild, did your new doctor explain why she/he took you off your medications or explain that they ruled out PMR and why? Did they tell you what they think is going on and why the referral to pain management?

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@dmoonchild

Hello everyone. I’m so happy to have found this place. I have had symptoms of PMR and GCA for months now. Been to 2 rheumatoid drs and no diagnosis. If fact, my long time rheumatoid dr left and the new guy took me off my meds without even seeing me or a phone call 😡
I feel like I’m dying. I told this to my last Dr at my evaluation. My blood results came back showing nothing and I was referred to pain management 😳🙄 ( august 24th)
I don’t know what to do or where to go. The headaches and pressure in my neck…and the back and arm pain are bad.
Will pain management be able to diagnose me? And treat me? I’m so frustrated 😤

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Hi @moonchild, I suffered with PMR (pain on a scale of 10 out of 10) for four months, full blown and my inflammation markers, ESR and CRP, were only slightly elevated so I wasn't diagnosed. I then got terrible neck stiffness, scalp tenderness, short little stabbing pains on the side of my head, anorexia and anemia. Nine months after the first blood work my ESR and CRP were off the charts. I had a temporal artery biopsy and was diagnosed with Giant Cell Arteritis and put on 40 mg of prednisone. I'm down to 1 mg now.

Were you ever prescribed prednisone and did it help? Usually the dosage for PMR is 15 -20 mg and the relief is often described as "miraculous." The dosage for GCA is higher. It's serious - untreated it can cause stroke or blindness. Have you had problems with your jaw when eating, unable to chew, or difficulty seeing? Has any doctor ever suggested a temporal artery biopsy?

If symptoms don't respond to prednisone, it could be an infection, malignancy, connective tissue disorder or hypothyroidism. I got this information from a diagnostic algorithm for PMR from Cecil and Goldman's Textbook of Medicine.

I hope you get some relief and find some answers soon.

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@dmoonchild

Hello everyone. I’m so happy to have found this place. I have had symptoms of PMR and GCA for months now. Been to 2 rheumatoid drs and no diagnosis. If fact, my long time rheumatoid dr left and the new guy took me off my meds without even seeing me or a phone call 😡
I feel like I’m dying. I told this to my last Dr at my evaluation. My blood results came back showing nothing and I was referred to pain management 😳🙄 ( august 24th)
I don’t know what to do or where to go. The headaches and pressure in my neck…and the back and arm pain are bad.
Will pain management be able to diagnose me? And treat me? I’m so frustrated 😤

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Sorry you are going through this. I was in pain for a year with nothing showing up in blood tests. And then they did show up. My numbers were so high and my husband, who is an Ophthalmologist, was extremely concerned about my eyes. This has been a roller coaster ride that I can’t seem to get off. Make sure you are In good hands and always good to get a second opinion.

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