Sudden significant, difficult to control nasal bleeding

Posted by delia74 @delia74, Mar 30 10:42am

On March 18th, I awakened around 6 AM to the sensation of a runny nose, only to learn that it was blood --- lots of blood! Made my way to the bathroom and saw blood actually squirting out of left nostril, flowing out the right one. I could feel the warm blood seeming to rush down my throat, and a pulsing sensation within the left side of sinuses. There's a great deal to what transpired over the next 10 hours, but it involved two ERS and a private otolaryngologist (she removed a device called a Rocket which an overambitious PA had inserted without giving specifics and not having asked any questions about my medical issues, and the dang Rocket set off intense nerve pain in my face and left eye. I wanted it OUT and the otolaryn-gologist did so and then cauterized it. She also removed several nasty blood clots out of my throat (no wonder I couldn't swallow water!). She gave me advice and instructions on what to do in the event of another episode, and I left exhausted but relieved to have had the bleeding attended by her. One week later (March 25) almost to the exact same time in the morning, I experienced ground hog day with SAME SITUATION. I took care of it by following the steps given to me by the doctor the previous week, and pinched my nostrils for 1 1/2 hrs until our local Urgent Care opened. The department is on the ground floor of our huge medical group (with many specialists and even radiology and Blood Lab), and yet not ONE of the staff in the ENT department was willing to see me "...because she has active bleeding..." and directed me to go to county medical center (where in the past I sat for HOURS with my elderly mother just waiting to be seen). That was not an option for me, so I went home and tended to my own care. The bleeding was not as significant this time, and stopped by using what I'd been instructed. I did see an ENT the following day (he agreed to see me ONLY because I had "no active bleeding." Examined me and said that he could see "nothing significant, other than a deviated septum and an area of exposed bone." Did not explain well when I questioned the "exposed bone." Told me that if it happened again, to go to medical center, and I told him NO, I would NOT go sit for hours in the ER of the medical center, but would definitely return to the otolaryngologist who had so wonderfully attended to me the prior week.
So I left, and the week went fine. I felt unwell from all the stress, etc., and other health issues, but all went well for balance of week....until this morning! AGAIN nose bleed episode! But I was seriously experienced and prepared THIS time, and with my husband's help, Afrin sprayed cotton pads inserted into nostrils, leaning downward, AND tightly squeezing my Mose, the bleeding came into control. Today is Saturday, and first thing Monday morning, a call will be placed to the private otolaryngologist who helped me the first time I experienced this. Right now, I have the cotton pad plugs in both nostrils. When removed, there is no bleeding but there is light tinge on the plugs.

So THREE nasal bleeding episodes almost exactly a week apart, and I have never had nosebleeds in my life, and I turn 76 in August.

No, I do not take blood thinners and stopped taking low dose aspirin which had been prescribed by my cardiologist, but I ran out about 2 months ago and just forgot to buy more (prescribed dose was one 82 mg tiny aspirin nightly). I also stopped the Omega supplement, about 3 to 4 weeks ago. So NO blood thinners at all.

I would so appreciate any info that can be shared by anyone who has experienced what I'm undergoing.

Thanks for taking the time to read this long post...would have been much longer if I had described the horrible experience that I underwent in the first ER, which is why I left and went to the second one! In the second ER is where the PA called the otolaryngologist who saw me within hours (we had to go home first so my husband could eat since he's diabetic and can't go long hours without nourishment or it causes nasty side effects). I am so indebted to her for her professionalism and willingness to see me when NOT ONE other ENT would do so.

Gracias 💖....

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@kndaustin71

There is always an underlying reason for nosebleeds that are as copious as everyone has experienced. It just takes the right physician to take the time to work through a diagnostic differential. Therein lies the problem!

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My primary and I had a Virtual Visit the day after the second episode. And I wrote a note that I dropped off yesterday at her office. In it, I informed her that 4 days after that Virtual Visit, a third episode occurred, but we were well prepared with the items that she had explained to do (as had the otolaryngologist who had cauterized and treated me with the first episode). Saturday's sudden nasal bleeding was much less intensive than the others, but still disturbing because I concur that there has to be a REASON. I have never had nose bleeds before! My primary (whom I absolutely trust and respect) had sent a script to my patient file for blood work, but in the note I shared with her what a couple of mayoconnect members had suggested regarding blood factors to test. I am more concerned that the source of my nasal bleeding lies deep within the nasal cavity. I had a CAT scan 2 years ago, because I was having such problems with breathing through the very nostril that squirted blood three weeks ago! The scan showed no problems other than my deviated septum. The doctor who took care of me with the first nasal bleed is incredible, but it's imperative to have an otolaryngologist who is not an 80 minute round trip drive. In the past 6 years, I've been brushed off by 4 ENTS that I turned to for help. All I've been told is a litany of "...saline spray, a prescription spray, etc., etc...." Not surprised, now that I think of it, that the left nostril that barely allows air in/out, (and the reason that I sought help from those 4 ENTs) is the very one from which blood flowed and squirted and scared the heck out of my husband and me. ALL 4 doctors told me "...can't find anything wrong with your left nostril..." Riiiiggghhht! And look at me now, with that very nostril having suddenly upending my world...

I'm keeping notes on whatever I feel in my nasal passages/eye pain/nerve pain/even the slightest headache. Today is Tuesday, four days since the latest episode. Let's see what transpires over the next few days...
One member took the time to write to me in detail how her husband had developed nose bleeds, but he was lucky that he lives in an area where ER departments have doctors that will attend to nasal bleeding. He got appropriate, attentive medical care in that ER. I didn't. He had his situation attended to, and astute medical professionals in that city finally found the source of his problem. I've been told "...there's nothing there..." Unfortunately for him, it was a growth that had to be excised and then receive treatment. I pray that he escapes the diagnosis of cancer. Therein lies my own fear, my concern about the source of my nasal bleeding. My primary has not tsk-tsk-ed me, and I'm grateful to have her on my medical team, as well as my wonderful vascular cardiologist (whom I'll be seeing also).

Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I do appreciate it.🌺

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@delia74

My primary and I had a Virtual Visit the day after the second episode. And I wrote a note that I dropped off yesterday at her office. In it, I informed her that 4 days after that Virtual Visit, a third episode occurred, but we were well prepared with the items that she had explained to do (as had the otolaryngologist who had cauterized and treated me with the first episode). Saturday's sudden nasal bleeding was much less intensive than the others, but still disturbing because I concur that there has to be a REASON. I have never had nose bleeds before! My primary (whom I absolutely trust and respect) had sent a script to my patient file for blood work, but in the note I shared with her what a couple of mayoconnect members had suggested regarding blood factors to test. I am more concerned that the source of my nasal bleeding lies deep within the nasal cavity. I had a CAT scan 2 years ago, because I was having such problems with breathing through the very nostril that squirted blood three weeks ago! The scan showed no problems other than my deviated septum. The doctor who took care of me with the first nasal bleed is incredible, but it's imperative to have an otolaryngologist who is not an 80 minute round trip drive. In the past 6 years, I've been brushed off by 4 ENTS that I turned to for help. All I've been told is a litany of "...saline spray, a prescription spray, etc., etc...." Not surprised, now that I think of it, that the left nostril that barely allows air in/out, (and the reason that I sought help from those 4 ENTs) is the very one from which blood flowed and squirted and scared the heck out of my husband and me. ALL 4 doctors told me "...can't find anything wrong with your left nostril..." Riiiiggghhht! And look at me now, with that very nostril having suddenly upending my world...

I'm keeping notes on whatever I feel in my nasal passages/eye pain/nerve pain/even the slightest headache. Today is Tuesday, four days since the latest episode. Let's see what transpires over the next few days...
One member took the time to write to me in detail how her husband had developed nose bleeds, but he was lucky that he lives in an area where ER departments have doctors that will attend to nasal bleeding. He got appropriate, attentive medical care in that ER. I didn't. He had his situation attended to, and astute medical professionals in that city finally found the source of his problem. I've been told "...there's nothing there..." Unfortunately for him, it was a growth that had to be excised and then receive treatment. I pray that he escapes the diagnosis of cancer. Therein lies my own fear, my concern about the source of my nasal bleeding. My primary has not tsk-tsk-ed me, and I'm grateful to have her on my medical team, as well as my wonderful vascular cardiologist (whom I'll be seeing also).

Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I do appreciate it.🌺

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I'm sorry you are having such difficulty! I haven been "brushed off" by three ENT and getting ready to let a 4th one do the same, in the past 4 months in search of a diagnosis for severe vertigo. Saline spray etc are treatments for a symptom of a diagnosis. You need to know what is causing the nosebleeds! BTW the ENT Drs I went to were Otolaryngologists....Eventually I will have an encounter with a physician who can address my concerns. Unfortunately it may have to be at one of the major medical centers, ie Mayo, Cleveland, Duke, John Hopkins.
I do hope you get resolution.....just asking is your blood pressure within normal limits?

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@delia74

Thank you for taking the time to reply. Your experiences resonate what I've undergone.
Yes, Afrin sprayed cotton inserted into the left nostril (the one that literally pours out blood) absolutely helped. Ditto to the squeezing (which I did for 90 minutes this past Saturday when I had episode #3!).
We've had air purifiers and cool mist humidifier stationed strategically throughout the house, and most definitely in the bedroom. And yet I experienced what I call "nasal hemorrhaging" episodes.
I'm looking to be seen by the incredible otolaryngologist who cauterized the nostril with the first episode. She also removed sizable blood clots that had lodged in my throat (making it difficult to breathe and swallow). I'm so worn out and stressed with this additional "condition" placed on my already seriously filled medical plate. Doesn't do much for my ongoing depression either, and adds more to my husband's intense heart issues.

Gracias for your input. Deeply appreciated.

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Since submitting the post of 6 days ago, I had yet another episode....I wrote about elsewhere in this conversation thread. Synopsis: happened at 10 PM so my husband drove me to the country trauma center where I received excellent care. However, since it is a trauma center with the ER staffed by the trauma area also, we were there several hours, not leaving until 3:20 AM....
Looking to be examined by one of the otolaryngologists within the Ear/Nose/Throat division of that teaching hospital that has received top reviews for their excellence in interdisciplinary approaches to patient care.

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@prettyflower

I'm so sorry for what you're going through, and for the agonizing uncertainty. My 81 year-old husband started having copious nosebleeds (no history) in mid-2022. Maybe an average of once per month. An urgent care visit resulted in a cauterization of some kind and taking Afrin home with us. It worked well for a long time. No bleeding. Then last fall 2023 he started getting a severe headache (he's not a headache person AT ALL) that grew more painful over about a week, and the nosebleed situation came back with it. We figured it was time for the ER. They saw a nasal mass in one of their scans. After consulting with an ENT surgeon the next week (the result of an ER referral), a biopsy was done shortly after and the result was a malignancy, either a carcinoma or sarcoma, (it was never determined for sure). Scans showed no spread. In December the tumor was cleanly removed endoscopically (through the nostril, no cutting) in a long operation by that same ENT and a neurosurgeon standing by. The location of the tumor was close to the brain. It all went very well, with a one-week stay in the ICU to watch for spinal fluid leaks. My husband is now in his final week of chemoradiation (once per week), and we won't know for about 3 months from now (summer 2024) if there is any cancer remaining, when they do all the scans again. Chemo has been more or less tolerable; the radiation has caused more of the discomfort to the targeted area, but compared to many others he has fared well. That's a lot of detail just to tell you that going to the ER was ABSOLUTELY the key to finding and treating his problem, which started as copious, unpredictable nosebleeds, followed by a debilitating headache. I send my encouragement!

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I just tried sending a rather lengthy response but it didn't work, so I'm going to attempt to do so by DIVIDING it and sending each section SEPARATELY. HOPE IT WORKS!!!

Here's Part A....

A belated thank you for your having made time to write to me about your husband's experience. I "lost" your post and found it difficult to locate, and was delighted when I found it this morning! I experienced yet ANOTHER nose bleed episode on April 5th. I wrote about it within another response here.
You are fortunate to have great emergency services. We live in a desirable area of Westchester County but the ER department of a hospital just 14 minutes or so from our home FAILED ME MISERABLY. Not only was I left alone in a corner along a heavy trafficked passageway, but I had the misfortune of having an obviously inexperienced, insecure (and yes, inept) PA be assigned to "attend" to me. He would disappear for up to about 15 minutes or so at a time, spoke in a way to low-voice within the din in that ER, but also did not ask ANY questions about my situation or my medical history! I had to call out for help when I began to gag and warm blood rushed out my mouth up blood along with clots onto a towel. Not one glance in my direction! I took a deep breath after puking up blood (with blood rushing out the left nostril and down back of the throat) and YELLED "I need help!!" Only then did someone who was not a nurse place a plastic basin in my lap (and another towel), but then took off! I had to call out in a LOUD voice to the nurse sitting behind the desk, who was tapping away in front of her computer. She did not come over but did glance (looking a bit annoyed) in my direction. "Where is the PA assigned to me?" I loudly asked. A bevy of staff walking past me and down the corridor to my right obscured the nurse and the nurses station. Finally a nurse (I presumed she was nurse or possibly a NP) came and took my vitals, then she also disappeared. I continued gagging on the warm flow of blood down my throat. I gagged blood into the basin, along with nasty blobs of blood clots. I was so scared! I had NEVER had nose bleeds in my 7 and a half decades of life, and no one appeared at all concerned that a senior was in the condition that I was in....FINALLY the errant PA came and told me he was going to insert "something" in my nostrils (yes both, not just the gushing left one) to stop the bleeding. No explanations, no questions about any medical info/situation that he should be apprised. ¡NADA! All I clung to were his words "...to stop the bleeding..." so I was prepared to be cooperative, but NOT prepared at all for the excruciating pain the he inflicted while SHOVING a nasty object into my right nostril. It hurt!! I yelled out "You're hurting me!" but he continued, even as I moved my head and entire body AWAY from him. "Stop!" I demanded, but he didn't, so I screamed "STOP ALREADY!" He finally did so, then disappeared again! My one consoling thought was that he was hopefully getting advice/direction from one of the ER doctors. I continued gagging and bringing up blood and clots, with not one medical personnel coming near me, not one staff member at all interested. My husband had not been allowed into the ER for whatever inane reason so I had NO ONE to advocate on my behalf. I felt so alone, and damned scared.

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@delia74

I just tried sending a rather lengthy response but it didn't work, so I'm going to attempt to do so by DIVIDING it and sending each section SEPARATELY. HOPE IT WORKS!!!

Here's Part A....

A belated thank you for your having made time to write to me about your husband's experience. I "lost" your post and found it difficult to locate, and was delighted when I found it this morning! I experienced yet ANOTHER nose bleed episode on April 5th. I wrote about it within another response here.
You are fortunate to have great emergency services. We live in a desirable area of Westchester County but the ER department of a hospital just 14 minutes or so from our home FAILED ME MISERABLY. Not only was I left alone in a corner along a heavy trafficked passageway, but I had the misfortune of having an obviously inexperienced, insecure (and yes, inept) PA be assigned to "attend" to me. He would disappear for up to about 15 minutes or so at a time, spoke in a way to low-voice within the din in that ER, but also did not ask ANY questions about my situation or my medical history! I had to call out for help when I began to gag and warm blood rushed out my mouth up blood along with clots onto a towel. Not one glance in my direction! I took a deep breath after puking up blood (with blood rushing out the left nostril and down back of the throat) and YELLED "I need help!!" Only then did someone who was not a nurse place a plastic basin in my lap (and another towel), but then took off! I had to call out in a LOUD voice to the nurse sitting behind the desk, who was tapping away in front of her computer. She did not come over but did glance (looking a bit annoyed) in my direction. "Where is the PA assigned to me?" I loudly asked. A bevy of staff walking past me and down the corridor to my right obscured the nurse and the nurses station. Finally a nurse (I presumed she was nurse or possibly a NP) came and took my vitals, then she also disappeared. I continued gagging on the warm flow of blood down my throat. I gagged blood into the basin, along with nasty blobs of blood clots. I was so scared! I had NEVER had nose bleeds in my 7 and a half decades of life, and no one appeared at all concerned that a senior was in the condition that I was in....FINALLY the errant PA came and told me he was going to insert "something" in my nostrils (yes both, not just the gushing left one) to stop the bleeding. No explanations, no questions about any medical info/situation that he should be apprised. ¡NADA! All I clung to were his words "...to stop the bleeding..." so I was prepared to be cooperative, but NOT prepared at all for the excruciating pain the he inflicted while SHOVING a nasty object into my right nostril. It hurt!! I yelled out "You're hurting me!" but he continued, even as I moved my head and entire body AWAY from him. "Stop!" I demanded, but he didn't, so I screamed "STOP ALREADY!" He finally did so, then disappeared again! My one consoling thought was that he was hopefully getting advice/direction from one of the ER doctors. I continued gagging and bringing up blood and clots, with not one medical personnel coming near me, not one staff member at all interested. My husband had not been allowed into the ER for whatever inane reason so I had NO ONE to advocate on my behalf. I felt so alone, and damned scared.

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pretty flower PART B RESPONSE
FINALLY the PA and one other person (possibly the one who had taken my vitals --- and she had announced "Wow! Your numbers are really high!") appeared in front of me. Made me more apprehensive after what the PA had attempted to do to my right nostril. With no word of apology for what had transpired, he said that perhaps the blocker that he had tried in the right nostril was "too large" so he had with him a "much smaller one" for the left nostril. "It WILL stop the bleeding" he urged. I told him that my left nostril has ALWAYS been sensitive and painful and said I'd cooperate as well as possible but that if told him to STOP that he had to do so IMMEDIATELY. He agreed, then started the insertion, which got blocked by my deviated septum. I clenched my fists as he attempted to re-direct and insert it and FINALLY IT WAS WHERE HE EVIDENTLY WANTED IT TO BE. He explained that he was going to "pump air" to inflate the "balloon." The idea chilled me but I consented. I soon felt intense pain as the "balloon" pressed against sinus cavity tissue and in turn that set off the nerves in my face and left eye. Since he had not asked questions about anything he should be aware of, he didn't know that he had ignited nerve pain in my face and eye, also into my temple area and into my left ear. I told him to remove it, to get it OUT, but he said he couldn't. The "nurse" evidently had reached the end of her rope at this point and told me I was going to be sent by ambulance to another hospital. "NO! I'm leaving with my husband and HE will take me to N---- Westchester Hospital ER where I can get help!" So she placed a form in front of me and asked me to sign. I told her I couldn't read the form (which had sentences followed by lines and "blanks") because I did not have my readers. In a terse, nasty tone, she pointed to a line and said "Just sign here!" Against my better judgement, I did so b/c I wanted to LEAVE the incompetency and what I was being put through. (I later found out that my signature indicated that I was signing out "against medical advice" which not only was a LIE but also ILLEGAL since I'd had no idea what I was signing, AND also NO "advice" had been given, I just got the cold impression that she wanted me out of their ER). I was wheeled out in silence, where my very worried husband had sat for the 3 1/2 hours that I'd been in the ER area. (He had repeatedly asked to be let in but kept being denied entry, with no reason offered.) Without a word, she stomped off, leaving me in the wheelchair unattended while my husband went to bring his car to the area in front of the exit/entry. Despite my pain, I sensed that she was glad to be rid of me...and she was indeed in a nasty, haughty mood. My husband took me to the other ER, where I was attended to IMMEDIATELY and attentively. Unfortunately, the PA there could not remove what I later learned is called a Rocket, from my throbbing left nasal cavity, and there was no ENT available BUT she called one in private practice who agreed to see me immediately. My husband drove me there (a 40 minute drive one way) and the otolaryngologist was wonderfully calm, patient, CARING, and not only removed several medium to large blood clots from my throat and nasal-pharangeal area (they had been obstructing my breathing and swallowing), but she also extracted the Rocket!!! Then she cauterized the area in my left cavity. I was so happy and relieved that I cried tears of joy. She comforted me and then gave me clear instructions on how to deal with any possible other bleeds, giving me the spray required; taught me how to make a "nasal dam" and placed one one me; then told me that I need not worry because she has indeed encountered situations like mine before.... We left her office feeling grateful not only to her, but also to the PA in the second hospital ER that had made the arrangement for being seen the SAME DAY by this amazing doctor....Evidently ONLY an otolaryngologist can remove a Rocket because significant trauma/damage can occur if done without competency and knowledge (thus a PA can insert one but cannot remove it, and this doctor had concerns about the PA having inserted one into my obstructed nostril).

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@delia74

pretty flower PART B RESPONSE
FINALLY the PA and one other person (possibly the one who had taken my vitals --- and she had announced "Wow! Your numbers are really high!") appeared in front of me. Made me more apprehensive after what the PA had attempted to do to my right nostril. With no word of apology for what had transpired, he said that perhaps the blocker that he had tried in the right nostril was "too large" so he had with him a "much smaller one" for the left nostril. "It WILL stop the bleeding" he urged. I told him that my left nostril has ALWAYS been sensitive and painful and said I'd cooperate as well as possible but that if told him to STOP that he had to do so IMMEDIATELY. He agreed, then started the insertion, which got blocked by my deviated septum. I clenched my fists as he attempted to re-direct and insert it and FINALLY IT WAS WHERE HE EVIDENTLY WANTED IT TO BE. He explained that he was going to "pump air" to inflate the "balloon." The idea chilled me but I consented. I soon felt intense pain as the "balloon" pressed against sinus cavity tissue and in turn that set off the nerves in my face and left eye. Since he had not asked questions about anything he should be aware of, he didn't know that he had ignited nerve pain in my face and eye, also into my temple area and into my left ear. I told him to remove it, to get it OUT, but he said he couldn't. The "nurse" evidently had reached the end of her rope at this point and told me I was going to be sent by ambulance to another hospital. "NO! I'm leaving with my husband and HE will take me to N---- Westchester Hospital ER where I can get help!" So she placed a form in front of me and asked me to sign. I told her I couldn't read the form (which had sentences followed by lines and "blanks") because I did not have my readers. In a terse, nasty tone, she pointed to a line and said "Just sign here!" Against my better judgement, I did so b/c I wanted to LEAVE the incompetency and what I was being put through. (I later found out that my signature indicated that I was signing out "against medical advice" which not only was a LIE but also ILLEGAL since I'd had no idea what I was signing, AND also NO "advice" had been given, I just got the cold impression that she wanted me out of their ER). I was wheeled out in silence, where my very worried husband had sat for the 3 1/2 hours that I'd been in the ER area. (He had repeatedly asked to be let in but kept being denied entry, with no reason offered.) Without a word, she stomped off, leaving me in the wheelchair unattended while my husband went to bring his car to the area in front of the exit/entry. Despite my pain, I sensed that she was glad to be rid of me...and she was indeed in a nasty, haughty mood. My husband took me to the other ER, where I was attended to IMMEDIATELY and attentively. Unfortunately, the PA there could not remove what I later learned is called a Rocket, from my throbbing left nasal cavity, and there was no ENT available BUT she called one in private practice who agreed to see me immediately. My husband drove me there (a 40 minute drive one way) and the otolaryngologist was wonderfully calm, patient, CARING, and not only removed several medium to large blood clots from my throat and nasal-pharangeal area (they had been obstructing my breathing and swallowing), but she also extracted the Rocket!!! Then she cauterized the area in my left cavity. I was so happy and relieved that I cried tears of joy. She comforted me and then gave me clear instructions on how to deal with any possible other bleeds, giving me the spray required; taught me how to make a "nasal dam" and placed one one me; then told me that I need not worry because she has indeed encountered situations like mine before.... We left her office feeling grateful not only to her, but also to the PA in the second hospital ER that had made the arrangement for being seen the SAME DAY by this amazing doctor....Evidently ONLY an otolaryngologist can remove a Rocket because significant trauma/damage can occur if done without competency and knowledge (thus a PA can insert one but cannot remove it, and this doctor had concerns about the PA having inserted one into my obstructed nostril).

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pretty flower PART C (AND LAST SECTION) RESPONSE

I've since had three more episodes, but was better prepared for dealing with each. Scary and unnerving just the same. For the last one (the 4th, this past Friday evening) my husband drove to the county trauma center just before 10 PM, and I was attended to by an experienced, knowledgeable PA, and given the phone number for the Dept of Otolaryngology at that teaching hospital. This morning (Monday) I am placing the call, happy to have that avenue because not ONE of the ENTs in our town and surrounding area was willing to see me, telling me "....you need to be seen by a trauma specialist..." Well, that's what happened Friday night! And that hospital is rated the TOP trauma center in the county...

I am appalled that not ONE doctor within the ENT departments of medical groups within my town and surrounding areas is interested in dealing with the kind of situation that has happened to me. What does that say about them?.....And where does that leave people like me, faced with such frightening experiences? I cannot travel to another state or into NYC so that seriously leaves me with little to no options. I'm praying that the teaching hospital whose trauma ER attended to me on Friday night will prove helpful. I had actually been informed that no, would not see me UNLESS I WAS NOT BLEEDING....But my past experiences with several ENTs had left me underwhelmed, with my nasal issues not addressed...

I still worry about a possible growth of some kind, just as what happened to your husband. He is so fortunate to have had knowledgeable PROFESSIONALS who take responsibility instead of shrugging a patient off to someone else. Trust me when I say that the survey that I was sent to fill out for that 1st nasal bleeding episode, had my entire focused account of how incompetently and unprofessionally that ER had treated a 75 year old woman who was left unattended for periods of time and not allowed to have her husband to be with her..... Yes, I filed a complaint with the head of the ER department, along with a copy to the head of the hospital.

I have included your husband in my prayers, that he may get wonderful news this summer!

God bless you both, and again mil gracias for making time to write to me. You are appreciated, just as are the other members on this incredible site. 💝🙏🏽

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@delia74

pretty flower PART C (AND LAST SECTION) RESPONSE

I've since had three more episodes, but was better prepared for dealing with each. Scary and unnerving just the same. For the last one (the 4th, this past Friday evening) my husband drove to the county trauma center just before 10 PM, and I was attended to by an experienced, knowledgeable PA, and given the phone number for the Dept of Otolaryngology at that teaching hospital. This morning (Monday) I am placing the call, happy to have that avenue because not ONE of the ENTs in our town and surrounding area was willing to see me, telling me "....you need to be seen by a trauma specialist..." Well, that's what happened Friday night! And that hospital is rated the TOP trauma center in the county...

I am appalled that not ONE doctor within the ENT departments of medical groups within my town and surrounding areas is interested in dealing with the kind of situation that has happened to me. What does that say about them?.....And where does that leave people like me, faced with such frightening experiences? I cannot travel to another state or into NYC so that seriously leaves me with little to no options. I'm praying that the teaching hospital whose trauma ER attended to me on Friday night will prove helpful. I had actually been informed that no, would not see me UNLESS I WAS NOT BLEEDING....But my past experiences with several ENTs had left me underwhelmed, with my nasal issues not addressed...

I still worry about a possible growth of some kind, just as what happened to your husband. He is so fortunate to have had knowledgeable PROFESSIONALS who take responsibility instead of shrugging a patient off to someone else. Trust me when I say that the survey that I was sent to fill out for that 1st nasal bleeding episode, had my entire focused account of how incompetently and unprofessionally that ER had treated a 75 year old woman who was left unattended for periods of time and not allowed to have her husband to be with her..... Yes, I filed a complaint with the head of the ER department, along with a copy to the head of the hospital.

I have included your husband in my prayers, that he may get wonderful news this summer!

God bless you both, and again mil gracias for making time to write to me. You are appreciated, just as are the other members on this incredible site. 💝🙏🏽

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@delia74 I really appreciate your updated account and can't believe the first "outfit" you went was even able to be called an ER. Wow. But you have finally gotten some proper attention, and what a stress reliever! As to the question of what's behind this -- have you had any scans or ultrasounds done? That's what our ER did for my husband and a mass was seen immediately, leading to the ENT surgeon referral.

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