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Rotator cuff surgery

Posted by @goldminer1945, Thu, Jul 5 10:53am

I had 2 surgeries on my left shoulder last Sept and Dec. The anchor pulled out during the therapy. They put it back on Dec.8. Since then I cannot raise my left arm all the way up. I believe he cut a ligament or muscle. Any recommendations on what I should do next?

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Hello @goldminer1945, welcome to Connect. This post hits a little close to home for me as I just had my rotator anchored on June 17th. I am still a few weeks away from the beginning of my therapy and must admit I am bit intimidated. I was only supposed to a have a small procedure and then they found that my rotator had a partial tear, which was a surprise to both of us.

I'd like to invite @robseverson and @inpaininmi to this discussion as they previously discussed rotator cuff surgeries.

@goldminer1945, if you feel comfortable sharing, did you have full or partial tears and how long did you have to wait before you started therapy?

@JustinMcClanahan

Hello @goldminer1945, welcome to Connect. This post hits a little close to home for me as I just had my rotator anchored on June 17th. I am still a few weeks away from the beginning of my therapy and must admit I am bit intimidated. I was only supposed to a have a small procedure and then they found that my rotator had a partial tear, which was a surprise to both of us.

I'd like to invite @robseverson and @inpaininmi to this discussion as they previously discussed rotator cuff surgeries.

@goldminer1945, if you feel comfortable sharing, did you have full or partial tears and how long did you have to wait before you started therapy?

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I had 4 anchors put in. Went to therapy the 3rd day. lasted 6 weeks. The pain was so much at the end of the 6th week ,I called the Dr. He did another surgery On Dec. First was Sept. He put the anchor back in. But after 5 weeks of therapy I couldn't raise my left arm up over my head. Feels like a tendon or ligament is separated. Going back in a couple weeks to talk to Dr.

@JustinMcClanahan

Hello @goldminer1945, welcome to Connect. This post hits a little close to home for me as I just had my rotator anchored on June 17th. I am still a few weeks away from the beginning of my therapy and must admit I am bit intimidated. I was only supposed to a have a small procedure and then they found that my rotator had a partial tear, which was a surprise to both of us.

I'd like to invite @robseverson and @inpaininmi to this discussion as they previously discussed rotator cuff surgeries.

@goldminer1945, if you feel comfortable sharing, did you have full or partial tears and how long did you have to wait before you started therapy?

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I'd like to invite @inpaininmi back to Connect and hope that they return because they discussed the very same issue. I am sorry you are having these issues because I can imagine your frustration and concern as I am about to embark on the same PT journey soon. Even though this isn't quite the same situation, there are a lot of members discussing shoulder issues in this discussion as well that may be worth your time to check out while we wait for others with your similar situation, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/shoulder-replacement-surgery-1/.

What did your therapist say about the inability to raise your arm?

@JustinMcClanahan

Hello @goldminer1945, welcome to Connect. This post hits a little close to home for me as I just had my rotator anchored on June 17th. I am still a few weeks away from the beginning of my therapy and must admit I am bit intimidated. I was only supposed to a have a small procedure and then they found that my rotator had a partial tear, which was a surprise to both of us.

I'd like to invite @robseverson and @inpaininmi to this discussion as they previously discussed rotator cuff surgeries.

@goldminer1945, if you feel comfortable sharing, did you have full or partial tears and how long did you have to wait before you started therapy?

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They said it would get better with time and excerise

I have a full thickness tear of the far anterior aspect of the supraspinatus. I am a 75-year-old female. I was a runner for 35 years and also worked out with free weights and machines. My question is: What is the possibility that my torn tendon will be strong enough to repair?

@marklg57

I had my rotator cuff surgery on July 5th, everything was proceeding beautifully with my PT. Last week I started to experience excruciating pain, at times the shoulder would want to freeze up. The surgeon said to stop PT for 2 weeks.
I'm wondering if anyone has had such an experience.

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@marklg57 Criminy. Just had a beautiful note all set to go to you, when something happened and I lost the whole thing. If it shows up, forgive me for posting twice. Anyway, Yes, I had right rotator surgery about 30 years ago before Learning that my hereditary Gelsolin Amyloidosis was causing it. A few months later it froze up, That hurt to deal with it. Anyway, now my left is hurting, but this may be different. it hurts all the way from the spine to the wrist.

I had my rotator cuff surgery on July 5th, everything was proceeding beautifully with my PT. Last week I started to experience excruciating pain, at times the shoulder would want to freeze up. The surgeon said to stop PT for 2 weeks.
I'm wondering if anyone has had such an experience.

@marklg57

I had my rotator cuff surgery on July 5th, everything was proceeding beautifully with my PT. Last week I started to experience excruciating pain, at times the shoulder would want to freeze up. The surgeon said to stop PT for 2 weeks.
I'm wondering if anyone has had such an experience.

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Hi @marklg57, welcome to Connect. You may notice that I moved your discussion and combined it with an existing discussion also titled Rotator Cuff Surgery.

@marklg57, this hits a bit close to home for me as well as I had my rotator cuff repaired on June 15th. I did no PT for 6 weeks while it healed and started a very mundane PT routine for 3-4 weeks. It wasn't until the 12 week mark that I was really let loose to rehab the muscles around the shoulder. I have made considerable gains in the past few weeks, but the pain is still there for me as well. I can't tell if it is because of the movement, the muscles getting activated for the first time in months or the general tightness of everything in the shoulder. I have not experienced severe pain, other than when I moved it on accident in the initial 6-week period. I have noticed that I can really get my arm moving after I am done with my exercises but it tightens up pretty quickly afterwards.

@marklg57, what sort of PT exercises or stretches do they have you doing?

@JustinMcClanahan

Hi @marklg57, welcome to Connect. You may notice that I moved your discussion and combined it with an existing discussion also titled Rotator Cuff Surgery.

@marklg57, this hits a bit close to home for me as well as I had my rotator cuff repaired on June 15th. I did no PT for 6 weeks while it healed and started a very mundane PT routine for 3-4 weeks. It wasn't until the 12 week mark that I was really let loose to rehab the muscles around the shoulder. I have made considerable gains in the past few weeks, but the pain is still there for me as well. I can't tell if it is because of the movement, the muscles getting activated for the first time in months or the general tightness of everything in the shoulder. I have not experienced severe pain, other than when I moved it on accident in the initial 6-week period. I have noticed that I can really get my arm moving after I am done with my exercises but it tightens up pretty quickly afterwards.

@marklg57, what sort of PT exercises or stretches do they have you doing?

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I'm doing a lot of stretching exercises, ie- wall slides, using stretching bands, shoulder exercises and exercises using a dowel

Finally glad to see someone get an answer about rotator cuff surgery. I am having rotator cuff surgery on October 10. I have completely torn my rotator cuff, have torn and dislocated a bicep, and have another torn tendon. How much help am I going to need after surgery? I live with and take care of my elderly parents who want to help but aren't able to provide the support I need. I just had a total knee replacement in May and I had to make sure the meals were ready etc. They were able to get my ice ready and occasionally drive me to PT. I heavily relied on my friends. I have held off the surgery to prepare frozen meals and do as much as I can to get my parents set up. My problem is I will pretty much be caring for myself this time. How much help did you need afterwards? I also hear this is more painful than a TKR. I felt a lot stronger going into surgery in May. I feel like my body is about to get a big hit before it has fully recovered from the TKR in May. I am feeling stressed, I am getting 2 anchors as well. I am not sure what to expect after the surgery.

@ssbionicknee

Finally glad to see someone get an answer about rotator cuff surgery. I am having rotator cuff surgery on October 10. I have completely torn my rotator cuff, have torn and dislocated a bicep, and have another torn tendon. How much help am I going to need after surgery? I live with and take care of my elderly parents who want to help but aren't able to provide the support I need. I just had a total knee replacement in May and I had to make sure the meals were ready etc. They were able to get my ice ready and occasionally drive me to PT. I heavily relied on my friends. I have held off the surgery to prepare frozen meals and do as much as I can to get my parents set up. My problem is I will pretty much be caring for myself this time. How much help did you need afterwards? I also hear this is more painful than a TKR. I felt a lot stronger going into surgery in May. I feel like my body is about to get a big hit before it has fully recovered from the TKR in May. I am feeling stressed, I am getting 2 anchors as well. I am not sure what to expect after the surgery.

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@ssbionicknee, if I may ask, are all of those injuries you listed to the same arm or are they spread across both of your arms? That would greatly determine how much help you are going to need. Picture doing everything you currently do, but with one arm, because the arm you have repaired will be of no use for multiple weeks. Lifting heavy or bulky things will be difficult because you can't use your one arm. However, I was able to cook, clean, and bath myself as well as my toddler, everything just took a bit longer. Although recovery from knee surgery is no picnic, I do believe you should have an easier time getting around and getting things done after your rotator repair, it is just imperative (according to my surgeon) that you do not actively engage the muscles of your shoulder and you will likely be in a immobilizer sling for a few weeks anyways.

This is only my experience, but I found the pain for the TKR to be worse. The pain for shoulder started to subside considerable over the course of a few weeks. There is still pain now that I am 14 weeks post-op, but that is because I am in full-blown PT mode and I am sure it is just the soreness from trying to stretch it out and regain strength. I have sled hockey season fast approaching, so I am pushing myself hard. I think pre-making meals is an awesome idea to help yourself out. Anything you can get done beforehand that will make things easier when you are one-handed will be a great help. You could try preparing yourself by going through a day using only your arm that will not be having surgery. Anything you can't do with just that arm you will likely need help with after the surgery. Also, buy a really long loofa for showering!

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@marklg57

I'm doing a lot of stretching exercises, ie- wall slides, using stretching bands, shoulder exercises and exercises using a dowel

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@marklg57, It sounds like they have you on a more aggressive PT plan than I was. I had to go to sports med to get a more proactive plan put in place because I was not progressing with the very limited stretches I was given initially. Is it possible you have overdone it and that is why they want you to back off? I understand the fear about frozen shoulder as that was my main concern as well. Is your pain movement based or is it always there?

It's there most of the time, movement does cause it to flare up. The top of my shoulder is extremely sensitive to any weight or pressure. I'm hoping, fingers crossed, that I did overdo it, I have an appointment with the doctor on Wednesday

@JustinMcClanahan

@ssbionicknee, if I may ask, are all of those injuries you listed to the same arm or are they spread across both of your arms? That would greatly determine how much help you are going to need. Picture doing everything you currently do, but with one arm, because the arm you have repaired will be of no use for multiple weeks. Lifting heavy or bulky things will be difficult because you can't use your one arm. However, I was able to cook, clean, and bath myself as well as my toddler, everything just took a bit longer. Although recovery from knee surgery is no picnic, I do believe you should have an easier time getting around and getting things done after your rotator repair, it is just imperative (according to my surgeon) that you do not actively engage the muscles of your shoulder and you will likely be in a immobilizer sling for a few weeks anyways.

This is only my experience, but I found the pain for the TKR to be worse. The pain for shoulder started to subside considerable over the course of a few weeks. There is still pain now that I am 14 weeks post-op, but that is because I am in full-blown PT mode and I am sure it is just the soreness from trying to stretch it out and regain strength. I have sled hockey season fast approaching, so I am pushing myself hard. I think pre-making meals is an awesome idea to help yourself out. Anything you can get done beforehand that will make things easier when you are one-handed will be a great help. You could try preparing yourself by going through a day using only your arm that will not be having surgery. Anything you can't do with just that arm you will likely need help with after the surgery. Also, buy a really long loofa for showering!

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Yes, all my shoulder injuries are to the same arm. I fell in April 2016 and had a slight tear to my rotator cuff, but it was not bad enough to worry about, they I fell in Oct, of 2017 and caught my self with my right hand spraining my wrist and shoulder. The final blow was in Aug. 2018. after my knee surgery. I was walking and my left ankle twisted and I went down hard on my new knee and my right shoulder. The knee hurt so bad that I did not realize that I had injured the shoulder. My knee was ok, but sore for a while. After a month, my knee got stronger and I realized my shoulder needed to be seen. I spoke to the knee doctor about falling so much and it is because both knees were so bad. I am glad to hear that you thought the TKR was worse. I was in agony with that and was dreading the shoulder hurting worse. I have started to prepare as much as I can.I am buying large button down shirts that will go over the sling, elastic waist pants, and am looking for some slip on shoes with good arch support. When I recover from the shoulder, I will need to do the left knee. I am really overwhelmed right now.

@ssbionicknee

Yes, all my shoulder injuries are to the same arm. I fell in April 2016 and had a slight tear to my rotator cuff, but it was not bad enough to worry about, they I fell in Oct, of 2017 and caught my self with my right hand spraining my wrist and shoulder. The final blow was in Aug. 2018. after my knee surgery. I was walking and my left ankle twisted and I went down hard on my new knee and my right shoulder. The knee hurt so bad that I did not realize that I had injured the shoulder. My knee was ok, but sore for a while. After a month, my knee got stronger and I realized my shoulder needed to be seen. I spoke to the knee doctor about falling so much and it is because both knees were so bad. I am glad to hear that you thought the TKR was worse. I was in agony with that and was dreading the shoulder hurting worse. I have started to prepare as much as I can.I am buying large button down shirts that will go over the sling, elastic waist pants, and am looking for some slip on shoes with good arch support. When I recover from the shoulder, I will need to do the left knee. I am really overwhelmed right now.

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Just happened to see this today….. I had semi-major shoulder repair (bone spur, rotator cuff, frayed bicep tendon) in 09, and less severe shoulder repair – other side – in 16. TKR on 9/13 of this year. Looking back, I would say that initially the shoulder surgery causes more pain for about a week or so, but then it does go away faster than what I’m experiencing with the knee right now. Exactly 4 months after right shoulder surgery I was back on the tennis court, playing (gentle) matches, with overheads and serves. No way I’ll be back for tennis until the 6 months mark, or later. The “good” thing about shoulder surgery is that after you’re done with the painful rehab exercises, it can rest. Knee will keep being used all day long. Also, general consensus seems to be you need to sleep in a recliner. Nope. Just have PLENTY of pillows of all sizes and build a nest to cradle your shoulder. Both times I slept in my bed from the very first night. You can slide tops on under (not over) the sling/brace, just make sure sleeves are wide, and you support arm in lap while doing so. 2nd time around, I put on bra without help 3rd day after surgery, put on (and tied) walking shoes on day 8 and went for a slow 2 mile walk. And yes, even though shoulder has nothing to do with stride, it still ouches when walking.
Sorry to run on, but given the choice, I’d rather have had another shoulder surgery than the TKR – and I’m supposedly doing super well.

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