Reversal of a fundoplication

Posted by Pawsboy9 @pawsboy9, Aug 5, 2012

I had a hernia and the fundoplication done in February as post this my chest is on fire. Going back to see the surgeon who did it on Tuesday. Has anybody had the same experience? If this guy does not have a answer heading for Mayo.

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Dennis

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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GERDS

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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Greg today was terrible, drank some Maalox and took some acid blocker hope to sleep through the night. You had the surgery ay Mayo? Have you done enough research to find out who deos the best reversal. I live in Cincinnati, I know it has to get better than this. Thanks Dennis

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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Hey Dennis. I know your pain buddy. I haven’t researched the reversal yet. I’m going to get scoped this Tuesday ( north and south pole) because this GI thinks I’ve got more than one thing going on. I literally have made my peace with God three times. Even though I did have a hernia, this doc says there’s a reason for so much acid. That reason he explained, is my body trying to control the bad bacteria in my small intestine. Well, over time somethings gotta give, and I developed GERDS. I’ve missed some work, but it’s getting worse. And I too am worried. My stomach, chest, or guts hurt all the time now. I’m being checked for Celiac disease, Crohns, diverticultis, IBS, and some others. Once I get these results I will see what this GI recommends. I will also talk to him about benefits of a reversal. I did have mine done at Mayo in Phoenix. Awesome female surgeon. I won’t ever go for surgery anyplace else. The only two things that give me some relief are, nexium, and keeping something in my stomach. I have been to a holistic doc. Spent about $600.00 on supplements. Got some relief. Short-lived though. My advice Dennis, for what it’s worth is to see if you’ve got something secondary that’s causing your symptoms. In the meantime, I will be researching the pros and cons of a reversal and let u know what I find out ok. Hang in there buddy. I know it’s miserable. But you’re not alone. I’m on the Internet every night talking with people about this. There’s an overload if opinions though. It’s hard to sort through it all, but I’m pretty damn perserverant, and tired of feeling like this. Try nexium for now is all I’ve right now. You may have also developed ulcers post surgery like I did. Take care.

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I found a great article. Google “Chris Kresser”. What did the doc have to say btw?

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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This is kozlo52. Please let me know if you had your nissen reversal and what are the side effects. i had my nissen fundo (100%) and hiatal hernia fixed in nov.1,2016. i have had problems with acid reflux , heartburn, chest pain, gagging nausea, even as i write this. I’m going in tomorrow 3/16/17 to have another esophagael manometry as well as an endoscopy to see if my LES is still 100% and not letting any acid backsplash. Any info you can provide will be very helpful…..also is there anyone out there who has had the nissen fundo and hiatal hernia repair while being on painkillers or NSAIDS for fighting Rheumatoid arthritis or any other auto immune system disease and has had all the bad post fundo effects i have had. i also want to mention that sleeping is a problem, post fundo. Sleeping was not a problem pre fundo. My problem with sleeping is digestive tract noise or heartburn…thank you…kozlo52

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Hi @kozlo52,

While we wait for @gregoryd and @pawsboy9 to reply, I’d like to ask @kdubois to share some insights about her Nissen experience.

I’d also like to tag @myskye, @tgirl, @katmandoo, @SherryD, @carolynlivingjaks, @cowboy1997, @peck1944 and hope they return with some information that may help you.

@kozlo52, please keep in touch, and let us know how your appointment goes?

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Hi @kozlo52,

I had a Nissen Fundoplication at Mayo on October 18, 2016 to fix a 4 cm hiatal hernia and non-functioning sphincter muscle. Pre-surgery, I would constantly have heartburn and GERD. I would have to finish dinner before 6:00 p.m. every night, and sleep upright using a bed wedge or I would wake up choking on with partially-digested food and stomach acid. (We did the surgery to fix these issues but also because Mayo figured out that genetically, I don’t properly-metabolize many medications, including proton pump inhibitors.)

Since the surgery, I have had no GERD or heartburn, and I can sleep normally and eat at normal times again. Post-surgery, I did take NSAIDS for pain for about two weeks.

Important to note: to test my fundoplication post-surgery, Mayo had me do an esophagram and not another manometry. The esophagram will better-show that fluids aren’t coming back up into your esophagus as it’s a true imaging test and they can literally watch the fluids (barium) real-time while you consume them.

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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I am, scheduled to have my wrap loosened. I had the nissen a little over a year ago and have been miserable since. I had to have a dilation almost every month as the wrap is to tight. The procedure is scheduled for April 15. I will let you know how it goes. Denise

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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If I were you. Not certain of all your health issues. I would ask or look for a doctor that does the Augmentation Linxs device. In fact on go on youtube and look for Steven P Bowers MD – Mayo he explains the surgery. My son had the surgery now he has damage to his esophagus because his 2nd wrap of his life (he had to have a NF wrap at 11 months) the 2nd one was far too tight and too high on the esophagus and has caused permeate damage. The linx device are literally magnetic beads that will keep your sphincter closed while not eating and food forces the beads open when you eat. .I personally cannot say enough wonderful things about Dr. Bowers he literally saved my son’s life. But please look at the linxs before doing a redo. Good luck and please let me know your decision.

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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wow i will do some research on the Augmentation LInxs Thank you

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@gregoryd

I had the Nissan fundiplication about a year and a half ago. I felt amazing for nine-months. Then, one day my stomach was burning, aching, you name it. I went back to the mayo clinic and got scoped to check the wrap. Well, the GI said the wrap was good and that he also checked me for SIBO. Sure enough, I have it. Along with two ulcers. I was also wondering about a reversal of the surgery. I still have GURDS, and recently found out from a GI in Texas that two-thirds of people who have had this surgery still require acid blockers. So I think I wasted a lot of money, but am not sure if the surgery caused the SIBO. if it did, I will definitely have it reversed. I am worse than I was pre-procedure. So maybe see if you have developed SIBO as well. Good Luck in your quest.

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Yes, please do. look up the youtube video Dr. Bowers explains it very well. He’s located in Jacksonville Mayo clinic.

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@kdubois

Hi @kozlo52,

I had a Nissen Fundoplication at Mayo on October 18, 2016 to fix a 4 cm hiatal hernia and non-functioning sphincter muscle. Pre-surgery, I would constantly have heartburn and GERD. I would have to finish dinner before 6:00 p.m. every night, and sleep upright using a bed wedge or I would wake up choking on with partially-digested food and stomach acid. (We did the surgery to fix these issues but also because Mayo figured out that genetically, I don’t properly-metabolize many medications, including proton pump inhibitors.)

Since the surgery, I have had no GERD or heartburn, and I can sleep normally and eat at normal times again. Post-surgery, I did take NSAIDS for pain for about two weeks.

Important to note: to test my fundoplication post-surgery, Mayo had me do an esophagram and not another manometry. The esophagram will better-show that fluids aren’t coming back up into your esophagus as it’s a true imaging test and they can literally watch the fluids (barium) real-time while you consume them.

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Kelly when you say eat normal again, does this mean very small meals 6 times a day? Yesterday i had another manometry test as well as an endoscopy with biopsies. I was told that from the endoscopy my hiatal hernia was intact as well as my LES being right. I then asked why am i still getting heartburn. The explanation from the surgeon was that i am eating too much at a given meal. I am on max antacids and this is 147 days after the initial fundo/and hernia repair.I also asked when i take pain medication that 4 hours later i get heartburn? They have no answer for this part. Are you on any pain medication? I plan to see the head surgeon ,Dr. Blair Jobe to go over the manometry results as well as the endoscopy. I am about ready to have this reversed. Please comment.

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@kdubois

Hi @kozlo52,

I had a Nissen Fundoplication at Mayo on October 18, 2016 to fix a 4 cm hiatal hernia and non-functioning sphincter muscle. Pre-surgery, I would constantly have heartburn and GERD. I would have to finish dinner before 6:00 p.m. every night, and sleep upright using a bed wedge or I would wake up choking on with partially-digested food and stomach acid. (We did the surgery to fix these issues but also because Mayo figured out that genetically, I don’t properly-metabolize many medications, including proton pump inhibitors.)

Since the surgery, I have had no GERD or heartburn, and I can sleep normally and eat at normal times again. Post-surgery, I did take NSAIDS for pain for about two weeks.

Important to note: to test my fundoplication post-surgery, Mayo had me do an esophagram and not another manometry. The esophagram will better-show that fluids aren’t coming back up into your esophagus as it’s a true imaging test and they can literally watch the fluids (barium) real-time while you consume them.

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According to the specialist i saw last month, once you have the Nissen you should not need any kind of antacid again He explained that is the wrap is working, no acid should be able to come back through. my wrap is to tight which is why i am having it adjusted next week.

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My wife had a Nissen Fundoplication in January 2014. ( that surgeon is now retired) For the past year symptoms have become progressivly worse and we were recently advised that the Nissan wrap had failed and was now herniated into her chest cavity. Local surgeons advise redoing the surgery is beyond their expertise. (Eureka ca) and advise going to larger hospital. Mayo Scottsdale was suggested as having Doctors experienced in this proceedure. We certainly want someone with a lot of experience. Any advise or suggestion greatly appreciated. Thank you Joe

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