PMR and exercise: What helps you?

Posted by jcaffrey47 @jcaffrey47, Jul 17, 2021

We are told that we have to stay active but what does that mean? This issue became very real for me when I attempted to swim the crawl stroke in the swimming pool. I was feeling pretty good at the time. The prednisone had kicked in and I swam the equivalent of two laps. The next day my shoulders were on fire and I was suffering a full flare; my first. Maybe everyone reading this will say that I was foolish to do any exercise that involve my shoulders and that I should limit my exercise to other parts of the body like walking or maybe biking. Let’s start a dialogue and find out what exercises work for all of us.

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@johnbishop

@novabill, I have been thinking about getting one but not for inflammation. I wanted to see if it will help increase bone density and also help with the flabby skin after my weight loss 🙂 @tsc has one and may be able to share information with you. I did find an article on the topic that might be helpful in explaining how it works for inflammation.

"Whole body vibration appears to improve many symptoms of type II diabetes mellitus, wherein glucose and destructive inflammation shoots up. The procedure helps the body use glucose as an energy source, and at the same time, modify the microbiome to fight inflammation, a new study says." --- Whole body vibration helps reduce inflammation, thanks to the gut microbiome: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190806/Whole-body-vibration-helps-reduce-inflammation-thanks-to-the-gut-microbiome.aspx

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Hi @novabill and @johnbishop I bought a Whole Body Vibration (WBV) Exerciser primarily to increase bone density. I wasn't thinking of toning muscles, but that has been one of the benefits. WBV also reportedly supports lymphatic drainage. I've been using it since August for 15 minutes, at least, 6 x a week, sometimes twice. Amazon has a large number of WBV machines. I chose Eilison Bolt because of its weight (11 lbs.), five year warranty, and it can be used on carpets (I put it on a yoga mat). It also has nine different programs reportedly with specific benefits. Make sure you read the disclaimers because people with certain health conditions should not use them. I had a mitral valve repair with a ring around the valve. My surgeon said the vibration machine would have no effect on it whatsoever. I'm glad I got one, regardless it will take a while to know the effect on my bone density.

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@tsc

Hi @novabill and @johnbishop I bought a Whole Body Vibration (WBV) Exerciser primarily to increase bone density. I wasn't thinking of toning muscles, but that has been one of the benefits. WBV also reportedly supports lymphatic drainage. I've been using it since August for 15 minutes, at least, 6 x a week, sometimes twice. Amazon has a large number of WBV machines. I chose Eilison Bolt because of its weight (11 lbs.), five year warranty, and it can be used on carpets (I put it on a yoga mat). It also has nine different programs reportedly with specific benefits. Make sure you read the disclaimers because people with certain health conditions should not use them. I had a mitral valve repair with a ring around the valve. My surgeon said the vibration machine would have no effect on it whatsoever. I'm glad I got one, regardless it will take a while to know the effect on my bone density.

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Thanks Teri! I just ordered one yesterday, mostly hoping it will help with bone density and lymphatic drainage. The toning muscles would be a plus.

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I think I feel better if I exercise. I have had PMR for 30 years off and on. Is there any studies on this subject?

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@jfannarbor

I think I feel better if I exercise. I have had PMR for 30 years off and on. Is there any studies on this subject?

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Hi @jfannarbor, I've had 2 occurrences of PMR and believe that exercise played a major part in helping me get the PMR into remission sooner that my first round with PMR . Of course I also changed my eating habits and started eating a little healthier. Here's an article I found using Google Scholar ( https://scholar.google.com/) which I like to use when searching for the latest medical research articles.

What non-pharmacological treatments do people with polymyalgia rheumatica try: results from the PMR Cohort Study: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00296-021-05036-6

Here are the search results for "exercise +polymyalgia rheumatica" if you want to see more....
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C24&q=exercise+%2Bpolymyalgia+rheumatica&btnG=

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I was diagnosed with PMR in March 2022 and started on 20 mg of Prednisone with good relief until I tried to go from 4 mg to 3 mg last month. I had a major flare with leg and buttock pain waking me in the night as well as severe leg cramps lasting over an hour during the evening. At this same time I was increasing my exercise level to prepare for a trip to Peru. My Rheumatologist increased my dose to 10 during the day and 5 at night and said this would allow me to exercise as I please while on my trip and Ill start tapering again when I get back. I feel upset about my increase but also want to be safe on my trip.
I wasn't aware of the relationship between exercise, PMR and prednisone and was wondering if someone can explain that.
Previous to PMR I was fairly active and in general feel much better when I exercise.

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@denise23

I was diagnosed with PMR in March 2022 and started on 20 mg of Prednisone with good relief until I tried to go from 4 mg to 3 mg last month. I had a major flare with leg and buttock pain waking me in the night as well as severe leg cramps lasting over an hour during the evening. At this same time I was increasing my exercise level to prepare for a trip to Peru. My Rheumatologist increased my dose to 10 during the day and 5 at night and said this would allow me to exercise as I please while on my trip and Ill start tapering again when I get back. I feel upset about my increase but also want to be safe on my trip.
I wasn't aware of the relationship between exercise, PMR and prednisone and was wondering if someone can explain that.
Previous to PMR I was fairly active and in general feel much better when I exercise.

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Yes, there does seem to be relationship between moderate exercise and increased PMR symptoms with lower doses of prednisone. I guess the explanation is that exercise causes inflammation. I started on 20 mg of prednisone in August of 2021. I had gone 4 months without a diagnosis and had backed my activity level way off due to pain. Suddenly I could do whatever I wanted again: 8-9 mile hikes with 1500 feet of elevation gain, bike rides up steep hills, birding carrying a telescope and gear 3-4 miles. There was no pain and no after-effects. This was true until I got below 10 mg when I began to have increased symptoms with activity. Below 8 mg I really ran into trouble. My rheumatologist told me to hold on 8 mg for awhile. I'm continuing my preferred activities but not hiking and walking as far and slowing everything down. I feel that I need to do this to continue the taper. I am taking a trip next month and will not drop my dose until I get back. If you are like me, 15 mg will allow you to really enjoy your trip!

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@denise23

I was diagnosed with PMR in March 2022 and started on 20 mg of Prednisone with good relief until I tried to go from 4 mg to 3 mg last month. I had a major flare with leg and buttock pain waking me in the night as well as severe leg cramps lasting over an hour during the evening. At this same time I was increasing my exercise level to prepare for a trip to Peru. My Rheumatologist increased my dose to 10 during the day and 5 at night and said this would allow me to exercise as I please while on my trip and Ill start tapering again when I get back. I feel upset about my increase but also want to be safe on my trip.
I wasn't aware of the relationship between exercise, PMR and prednisone and was wondering if someone can explain that.
Previous to PMR I was fairly active and in general feel much better when I exercise.

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Hello @denise23, Welcome to Connect. You will notice that we moved your post into an existing discussion on the same topic here - PMR and exercise: What helps you?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-and-exercise/ so that you could connect with @jcaffrey47, @tsc, @cgent, @zaa and others.

The key thing I've learned from my two occurrences of PMR is that exercise is important and I feel better when I get 30 to 60 minutes a day of exercise in but I also have to make sure I don't overdo it. Even though my PMR is in remission, if I do too much exercise, my body lets me know the next day. I have Teeter FreeStep exercise bike that I try to use for 30 to 60 minutes a day along as part of my exercise routine.

The Arthritis-Health site has some good strategies for copying with PMR here: https://www.arthritis-health.com/blog/3-strategies-coping-polymyalgia-rheumatica-pmr

You might also want to keep a daily pain log along with how much prednisone you took that day. I never tapered when it was time unless my pain level was a 1 or 2 on a scale of 1 to 10. Do you keep a daily pain log?

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@linda7

Yes, there does seem to be relationship between moderate exercise and increased PMR symptoms with lower doses of prednisone. I guess the explanation is that exercise causes inflammation. I started on 20 mg of prednisone in August of 2021. I had gone 4 months without a diagnosis and had backed my activity level way off due to pain. Suddenly I could do whatever I wanted again: 8-9 mile hikes with 1500 feet of elevation gain, bike rides up steep hills, birding carrying a telescope and gear 3-4 miles. There was no pain and no after-effects. This was true until I got below 10 mg when I began to have increased symptoms with activity. Below 8 mg I really ran into trouble. My rheumatologist told me to hold on 8 mg for awhile. I'm continuing my preferred activities but not hiking and walking as far and slowing everything down. I feel that I need to do this to continue the taper. I am taking a trip next month and will not drop my dose until I get back. If you are like me, 15 mg will allow you to really enjoy your trip!

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Thank you so much for your comments. This is what happened to me and I never expected it. When I spoke with my rheumatologist nurse she told me she thought the exercise may have exacerbated my flare. Just hoping I can get back on track again for my taper when I return.

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@johnbishop

Hello @denise23, Welcome to Connect. You will notice that we moved your post into an existing discussion on the same topic here - PMR and exercise: What helps you?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-and-exercise/ so that you could connect with @jcaffrey47, @tsc, @cgent, @zaa and others.

The key thing I've learned from my two occurrences of PMR is that exercise is important and I feel better when I get 30 to 60 minutes a day of exercise in but I also have to make sure I don't overdo it. Even though my PMR is in remission, if I do too much exercise, my body lets me know the next day. I have Teeter FreeStep exercise bike that I try to use for 30 to 60 minutes a day along as part of my exercise routine.

The Arthritis-Health site has some good strategies for copying with PMR here: https://www.arthritis-health.com/blog/3-strategies-coping-polymyalgia-rheumatica-pmr

You might also want to keep a daily pain log along with how much prednisone you took that day. I never tapered when it was time unless my pain level was a 1 or 2 on a scale of 1 to 10. Do you keep a daily pain log?

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Thanks so much for your suggestions!

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@denise23

I was diagnosed with PMR in March 2022 and started on 20 mg of Prednisone with good relief until I tried to go from 4 mg to 3 mg last month. I had a major flare with leg and buttock pain waking me in the night as well as severe leg cramps lasting over an hour during the evening. At this same time I was increasing my exercise level to prepare for a trip to Peru. My Rheumatologist increased my dose to 10 during the day and 5 at night and said this would allow me to exercise as I please while on my trip and Ill start tapering again when I get back. I feel upset about my increase but also want to be safe on my trip.
I wasn't aware of the relationship between exercise, PMR and prednisone and was wondering if someone can explain that.
Previous to PMR I was fairly active and in general feel much better when I exercise.

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My first bout of PMR occurred fourteen years ago at age 62. At the time, I had decided to intensify my exercise program from a simple walk in the evening to a more vigorous regimen of power walking and stair climbing at the local high school track and football stadium. Not very long after I began this program I was struck by incapacitating pain in my neck, shoulders, hips and legs, which I believed was brought on by the increased exercise. After various doctor visits and months of prednisone treatment, the PMR resolved and I was able to resume a milder exercise program. I remained in remission until 2021, when, after my first Covid vaccination, I experienced a second debilitating flare of PMR and was treated again with prednisone. After months of treatment, I finally achieved remission again and was able to discontinue the prednisone. The rheumatologist's parting advice to me was to avoid intense exercise, especially stair climbing. I am now 76 and have remained in remission from my latest flare for one year. My exercise regime consists of thirty minutes of daily walking at a moderate pace.

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