Percussion Vests: Are you using one? Is it working for you?

Posted by thumperguy @thumperguy, Jan 1, 2020

Anyone willing to guess how many “regulars” on this forum use a vest?

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@littlemumzie

I thought you only use the vest wuen you are clearing your lungs with the aerobika. Is this wrong?

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There are any number of ways to use a vest. I have a smart vest that I use together with saline nebulizing. My pulmo team approved that, saying "we give you all the tools, you use them how it's best for you." Every case of bronchiectasis/ NTM is different.
Others nebulize and then use the vest. I don't know about using the vet with an aerobika since both vibrate your lungs . Were you advised by a doctor or respiratory therapist? The smart vest company sends a trainer who can also advise you.

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@thumperguy

No soreness, but I’ve had moments when I’ve sorta wondered what it was doin’ to my brain

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Not long after starting to use the Smartvest I felt small headaches afterward. I reduced the pressure and also started wearing a beanie when using it. Then, several months in I began getting ICP when I'd cough or laugh hard. It quickly blew up to the point of feeling a constant headache pressure in my cranium and where my skull and spine meet, and I continued to experience intense shooting pains in my skull whenever I'd cough or laugh and when I'd first lay down. An MRI didn't show any brain abnormality. From my research, it sounds like cervicogenic headaches caused by ICP. It's now been a year since that started. I stopped using the Smartvest but I still haven't been able to resolve this condition. Although I have been able to slowly reduce the intensity and frequency of it through head massage, icing, rest, and other techniques. Has anyone else experienced something similar?

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I also have been using the Smartwest with no problems. 15 minute therapy sessions. Velcro easy to attach, so I'm able to put it on and take it off myself. I've traveled with it as well, and the travel case is great, compact and not too heavy. I also use a nebulizer treatment before the vest with Albuterol, 3% sodium chloride, but my doctor said 7% probably ok. I noticed Amazon has 3% and 7% in 5ml containers. I am also using the 15 ml vial and portion out 5, 3% doses at a time. After the vest I finish my treatment with Simbecort. I do this regine twice a day. I am also doing halotherapy (salt inhalation treatments) that are tremendously helpful in thinning mucous to supplement my airway clearance regime.

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@deestrada

I also have been using the Smartwest with no problems. 15 minute therapy sessions. Velcro easy to attach, so I'm able to put it on and take it off myself. I've traveled with it as well, and the travel case is great, compact and not too heavy. I also use a nebulizer treatment before the vest with Albuterol, 3% sodium chloride, but my doctor said 7% probably ok. I noticed Amazon has 3% and 7% in 5ml containers. I am also using the 15 ml vial and portion out 5, 3% doses at a time. After the vest I finish my treatment with Simbecort. I do this regine twice a day. I am also doing halotherapy (salt inhalation treatments) that are tremendously helpful in thinning mucous to supplement my airway clearance regime.

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How are you able to do halotherapy?

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Have used The Vest for about 8 years and then my pulm ordered the Monarch. It ended up being so heavy that it exacerbated my back issues. I am being treated for the back issues so I am currently back to The Vest but will go back to The Monarch eventually.

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@apf

Not long after starting to use the Smartvest I felt small headaches afterward. I reduced the pressure and also started wearing a beanie when using it. Then, several months in I began getting ICP when I'd cough or laugh hard. It quickly blew up to the point of feeling a constant headache pressure in my cranium and where my skull and spine meet, and I continued to experience intense shooting pains in my skull whenever I'd cough or laugh and when I'd first lay down. An MRI didn't show any brain abnormality. From my research, it sounds like cervicogenic headaches caused by ICP. It's now been a year since that started. I stopped using the Smartvest but I still haven't been able to resolve this condition. Although I have been able to slowly reduce the intensity and frequency of it through head massage, icing, rest, and other techniques. Has anyone else experienced something similar?

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please explain ICP k?

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@beejenigma

please explain ICP k?

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ICP refers to intracranial pressure

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@apf

Not long after starting to use the Smartvest I felt small headaches afterward. I reduced the pressure and also started wearing a beanie when using it. Then, several months in I began getting ICP when I'd cough or laugh hard. It quickly blew up to the point of feeling a constant headache pressure in my cranium and where my skull and spine meet, and I continued to experience intense shooting pains in my skull whenever I'd cough or laugh and when I'd first lay down. An MRI didn't show any brain abnormality. From my research, it sounds like cervicogenic headaches caused by ICP. It's now been a year since that started. I stopped using the Smartvest but I still haven't been able to resolve this condition. Although I have been able to slowly reduce the intensity and frequency of it through head massage, icing, rest, and other techniques. Has anyone else experienced something similar?

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Not exactly in my neck but my vest usage (Afflovest) caused left side shooting pains near my rib cage. These happened randomly hours after using the vest, about 7-10 days after starting its use. The pains would stop me in my tracks. Once I stopped Afflovest so did the pains.

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@scoop

Not exactly in my neck but my vest usage (Afflovest) caused left side shooting pains near my rib cage. These happened randomly hours after using the vest, about 7-10 days after starting its use. The pains would stop me in my tracks. Once I stopped Afflovest so did the pains.

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Sorry to hear that but glad to hear you solved the problem. I think in my case the Smartvest was one factor in several that caused my neck, shoulder and jaw area to spasm and tighten, triggering the cervicogenic headaches. It does seem to be resolving, albeit very slowly through a lot of self care.

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@irenea8

How are you able to do halotherapy?

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I go to a health spa where they offer salt therapy. You go into a room that is covered with salt, on the floor, walls and ceiling. Sodium Choride is atomized into the room for 45 minutes. You are breathing in pure atomized salt for 45 minutes. it is amazing how it clears out your sinuses, nose and lungs. The salt brings moisture to the lungs, thinning them. Many of the clients who go to where I go are families with small children. There was a 3 week old baby in one session. Halotherapy is extremely good also for asthma, bronchitis, common cold, anything that involves the lungs and breathing system. I just googled alternative treatment for MAC and a website popped up for the place I go to. You can also just google facilities that provide salt treatment rooms or halotherapy therapies. Good luck! My pulmonologist was thrilled I was adding this protocol to my airway clearance regime.

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