Pancreatic Cancer Recurrence after Whipple

Posted by joannc63 @joannc63, Feb 18, 2023

Hello. I had the Whipple surgery on 6/30/2020 for stage 3 Pancreatic cancer. I found out on 2/17/23 via CT scans that it is back in the pancreatitis bed and a noldule in my liver. I see my oncologist in 2 days to go over starting chemo again. I have back pain and abdominal pain from the recurrence. Has anyone had luck with chemo when the cancer returns? I hope the oncologist can get the tumor to shrink. I guess I am just looking for hope maybe this can get under control. Thank you.

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My story is a little different but worth telling here. I had a Whipple procedure in 2012 and was staged as III, locally advanced, borderline resectable. Surgical margins were clear. There was portal vein resection required and pathology showed invasion into the vascular wall. Eleven of 22 lymph nodes were positive. One week after surgery a CT was done and the radiologist noted suspicion of metastatic disease to the liver. It was not large enough to be seen two weeks earlier at the time of the initial CT scan. So this was how I ended up having a Whipple and being stage IV…..it had not been detected prior to surgery that was done a couple of days after the initial diagnosis. No cure was to be achieved for me by having the Whipple.

My first thoughts on treatment were to find a clinical trial. To make the search easier, molecular profiling was done and a liquid biopsy revealed a germline (inherited) mutation. So now I knew the type of trials to focus my search on. A trial matching my criteria would take 14 months so in the meantime, standard of care chemo was required. Standard of care is just what it means….and it was not going to give me the longevity in survival I was looking for. I knew I would require better than SoC and strongly advocated for more aggressive chemo.

The “gold standard” of chemotherapy regimens in 2012 as it is today is Folfirinox. Administering 12 cycles is the number selected that is felt to achieve No Evidence of Disease (NED) and yet be tolerable by the majority of patients as adverse events, side effects and peripheral neuropathy are concerns. Few oncologists explain what NED means, especially in how it is determined. The goal of the oncologist is to knock the disease down low enough that it is not detectable by current sensitivity by imaging such as CT, MRI or PET. It is hoped that at this level, one’s immune system can keep any minimal residual disease (MRD) in check. As long as one continues to have a robust immune status, the MRD is held in check. But is the immune system comes under challenge and gets compromised, MRD can come back and usually in a more aggressive form.

Knowing this is why I advocated for more aggressive treatment with Folfirinox. Rather than stopping at 12 cycles, I indicated my desire and committed to doing as much as my body would tolerate. Thankfully my oncologist honored my request. Because neuropathy would likely be experienced and could become permanent, he decided to treat with six cycles of Folfirinox (FFX) followed by six resting cycles of just 5-FU with Leucovorin. After those six cycles, it was back to full-dose FFX for another six cycles. This alternating dosing regimen went for 24 months resulting in a total of 46 cycles of 24 FFX and 22 of 5-FU. At that point, a clinical trial opened that I met the criteria for and enrolled after a two week washout period. After the final 5-FU treatment, all liver metastasis had shrunk 80% and it was believed only scar tissue was being observed on imaging.

The clinical trial was designed to target a gene mutation for maintenance monotherapy. Many oncologists feel it was the excessive FFX that destroyed any MRD and the clinical trial drug has helped in preventing any new primary tumor from forming in the residual pancreas as I have a lifetime risk from that gene mutation.

Anyone can say to their oncologist they want to survive and be cured. Saying and doing are two very different things. I was 55 years old and strong physically from having done 100-200 mile bike rides per week. I was also strong emotionally and mentally. I set realistic expectations that setbacks might be encountered. I found ways to tolerate the treatment, deal with a setback and then move forward. I stayed focused on my goal and had the determination and very strong will to survive. In 2016 at the conclusion of the trial I was declared NED. It was likely I was already NED at the conclusion of the FFX treatments. In 2022 I was informed by a number of pancreatic cancer oncologists that they consider me cured. In a few months I will be celebrating 11 years of survival of having had stage IV disease.

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Amazing! So happy for you!

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I am at a loss right now not even sure I'm in the right place for help. I had pancreatic cancer over 15 yrs ago and had a Whipple done. I've been in pretty good health til recently and have been admitted 2 times in the hospital to get blood transfusions in just 3 months. Two weeks ago they found a mass in my lung and today I was told it's a reaccurance of pancreatic cancer and the cancer was making it hard for my body to make blood. That's really all the told me and sent me home. Things are so different now from what they were before not sure about anything. Any advice would be appreciated.

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How are you doing now Joanne? What treatments are you on?

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The trial I am starting April 30th is Multiple Cohort Trial of ALTA3263 for patients with advanced solid Tumors with KRAS mutations

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Had 6 treatment of the Gemcitabine and Paclitaxel had my CT scan they found new spots on my liver. Went and seen the clinical trial Doctor he said to stop that treatment and go back on the 5fu and all the other ones you get with the 5fu. Had 1 treatment and the clinical trial Doctor said I could not do anymore if I was going to do the clinical trial Had another liver biopsy on April 17th and I go tomorrow for more testing and I start the clinical trial on April 30th. I was so happy that I got accepted into the trial. The trial just came out in March so it's a brand new trial. Hopefully it works and I can help other people by doing this trial.

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Please share which trial you will be on. Thank you!!

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Had 6 treatment of the Gemcitabine and Paclitaxel had my CT scan they found new spots on my liver. Went and seen the clinical trial Doctor he said to stop that treatment and go back on the 5fu and all the other ones you get with the 5fu. Had 1 treatment and the clinical trial Doctor said I could not do anymore if I was going to do the clinical trial Had another liver biopsy on April 17th and I go tomorrow for more testing and I start the clinical trial on April 30th. I was so happy that I got accepted into the trial. The trial just came out in March so it's a brand new trial. Hopefully it works and I can help other people by doing this trial.

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@joannc63 How did your treatment go? Did you get chemo/radiation for your reoccurence?

Thanks!

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Just was wondering if anyone cancer is adenocarcinoma this is the type I had in my pancreas stage 1. Had the Whipple surgery which the surgeon was confident that he got it all . Had 21 lump nodes taken out with 4 that were cancerous. But while I was open did a around of radiation IORT I think I have that right. But at my 3 months check up of CT scan and CA-19 test found out that now it has went to liver. Had biopsy done and they took 3 samples they came back with necrosis which if I understand right it means the tumor is dead in the middle but may still be alive on the outside. Has anyone else dealt with this? I see a new oncologist on February 27th hopefully can get into a clinical trial. I am doing chemo right now Albumin-bound PACLitaxel and Gemcitabine. First round of chemo before surgery was 5fu and then also did 28 days of proton radiation while taking chemo pill Capecitabine. Have a CT scan scheduled for March 12th. Just was looking for someone who's liver tumors are nercosis and what did they do for you. Thanks !

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I pray that my case can give you hope. I had the Whipple procedure in 2018 and the pancreatic cancer returned in 2023. But went dormant after stereotactic radiation. It returned again in 2024 and I am undergoing chemo right now and after one month the results are very good as indicated by the CA 19 nine marker and a pet scan. I pray it works the same for you. I am excited and happy to be taking chemo therapy. It appears to be very effective after only one month. 🙏🏼💜

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So good to hear that you're doing well. Its been a real battle at my end. I'm in a break period for a couple of weeks before they start my third regiment of treatments. The cancer continues to grow and this is my last hope. I truly wish you all the best. Stay strong and never give up hope.💜

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Have you tried GA chemo? It seems to work well on the liver. Also there’s different focused radiation types and also proton therapy though not a lot of facilities that do that - I think proton is good for nodules or tumors rather than lesions.

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