What pain meds work well for Gastric bypass patients?

Posted by aprilarlady @aprilarlady, Mar 24, 2017

Good Morning. I am a gastric bypass patient 13 years out from surgery and maintaining my 150 lb weight loss. I have chronic daily pain from arthritis, degenerative disc disease, cervical herniated disc(s), torn meniscus, labral tear in my hip and recurring tendonitis in various places. I take Hydrocodone/Apap 10mg/325 4 times daily for pain since as gastric bypass patients we are not supposed to take NSAIDS. I get very little relief from this. It is in pill form. Does anyone else that is a weight loss surgery patient have this issue and find that it is due to malabsorption and/or anyone taking pain meds in liquid form get better relief?

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Profile picture for Gail Benson Ledesma , Alumni Mentor @gailb

@aprilarlady, I had RnY gastric bypass surgery 7/8/14, with a weight loss of 85 pounds currently. Because of this I too am unable to take NSAIDS. I started taking Hydrocodone/acetaminophen 5/325 mg over a year ago to relieve my pain from herniated disks at L5-S1 and L4, as well as a compression fracture at C7 and stenosis, degenerative disk disease, and arthritis. The Hydrocodone did not work for me. Last summer, I began seeing a pain doctor who took me off the Hydrocodone and put me on Tramadol/acetaminophen 30/325 (as I remember). That was working great, still with pain, but tolerable.

Then I injured my back additionally through traveling and lugging my suitcases back and forth weekly between my home and a job site. I had sudden acute pain that ended p with me in a wheelchair after several days of trying massage, chiropractic and acupuncture (my first time ever). I then had an MRI that showed the problems I described at the beginning of this post. My pain doctor added Baclofen 10 mg and changed my Tramadol to 50 mg without the acetaminophen. He said I could add acetaminophen for breakthrough pain as needed. This has been working great for me. I had outpatient spinal surgery on my L5-S1 on 12/22/16. I have had complete relief from the pain on my left side since then. But the pain on my right side continued. My pain doctor added Gabapentin to my medications. 300 mg twice a day.

My spine surgeon put me on Physical Therapy in late February, with both our goals to improve my core muscles and avoid surgery on my L4, which is completely out of alignment with my spine. The PT seemed to be working until my 4th session, after which I was in excruciating pain the following day and for several days after. Then suddenly it felt much better. I waited 2 weeks before I had another PT session and after that very gentle session, again I had excruciating pain and ended up in bed for 5 days only walking to the bathroom, icing and changing position about every 30 to 45 minutes. That was 2 weeks ago and I am still in pain. My pain doctor then tried Hydrocodone again when I requested it. But when I had used it previously, I took it with the Tramadol and I had good pain relief. He told me I should never take the 2 medications together. On only the Hydrocodone I had very little relief and after 3 days, I began noticing withdrawal symptoms from stopping the Tramadol suddenly. I stopped taking the Hydrocodone and went back to the Tramadol.

I am doing ok currently, but my pain level is a constant 7. I can't do much exercise like walking around more than half a block (yesterday), which was very hard to do. This morning I am very tired from my activities yesterday. I had bought tickets, 2 months ago, to take my granddaughter to see "An American in Paris," live at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood. I was determined to go if at all possible. She drove and was helpful for me in walking. But I'm paying for my fun today. I'm also participating in a medical research study for Alzheimers at the University of California at Irvine. Today I am having a PET scan as part of the study. Thankfully, they are sending a cab to pick me up and bring me back. It will be another active day for me.

So, I can recommend Tramadol and Baclofen as having been very helpful for my pain. I would not take Gabapentin, and i have asked my doctor to withdraw me from it. I wish you luck in your search for pain relief. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Gail B

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Get your doc to prescribe a transdermal patch. Oral meds don’t work well w gastric bypass surgery bc of less time to absorb and less gut to absorb it. I’ll fine the article and post it if I’m allowed to.

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An academic article I read said pain pills don’t work for gastric bypass but that transdermal pain med patches will work. I have ortho problems like yours and the only thing that works for me is the fentanyl patch, it really works well.

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Profile picture for dulfam4 @dulfam4

I have severe lower back pain and have been told for almost 13 years you will need a fusion and wait as long as possible your to young. I have been through everything possible to try and reduce my pain with no success. Every spine doctor or surgery even Mayo Clinic agreed. I am highly allergic to all NSAIDs (with bypass we should avoid) I have tried every pain med out there and nothing provides relief. And yes even chiropractors, yoga, all natural/healthy lifestyle, etc.

I am scheduling the fusion finally after so many years of suffering. FYI L3-4 L4-5
My question “plea for help” has anyone found something that will help with control the pain? Certain med, combination of meds, way it is administered. TIA

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Hello @dulfam4,
I suffered for lower and upper back pain for more years I can remember. I tried shots for over 10 years with not much success.
Six years ago, I had WLS (sleeve) and lost 90 lbs. I thought the weight loss would help, but it didn't! It was also recommended to me to wait as long as possible for surgery, but I had no quality of life.
About 4 years ago I decided it was time for surgery. First, I had cervical surgery on C5/6. My neurosurgeon suggested disk replacements. The odds of success were excellent, but of course, there can always be an issue. Sadly, I am having issues again. The bones started to fuse where they shouldn't. Now, I need to have the replacements taken out. The first surgery was an easy recovery. I was on oxy for just a couple of days and I was fine.
Six months later it was time for the lumbar spine, L3/4. I had what was called an x-lift fusion. For me, it was a horrible and painful recovery. I was on oxy for quite a bit a time. I cannot remember how long. I had pain and spasms. However, I still do not have pain (other than what a 'normal' woman in her late 60s gets). By waiting so long to have the lumbar spine done, I developed severe nerve damage in both my legs that will NEVER get better. I walk with a cane and I cannot walk far as my legs just give out. I also have non-diabetic neuropathy.
So as I said, surgery with pain meds is the only things that helped. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Best of luck!
GrandmaR
Ronnie

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Profile picture for ealeonard1214 @ealeonard1214

I am 19 years out gastric bypass
I only take Tylenol arthritis pain reliever
I use a pain patch for hip pain
There might be other meds that are not nsaids
Cortisone shots

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Hello,
I am 6 years out from being sleeved.
I also take Tylenol Arthritis Pain Reliever.
It doesn't always work but it will help me when the pain I am experiencing is not a 10.
I get shots in my hip for bursitis.
I get shots in my cervical spine, but now they are not helping.
I've had lower and upper spine surgery, too.

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Profile picture for dulfam4 @dulfam4

I have severe lower back pain and have been told for almost 13 years you will need a fusion and wait as long as possible your to young. I have been through everything possible to try and reduce my pain with no success. Every spine doctor or surgery even Mayo Clinic agreed. I am highly allergic to all NSAIDs (with bypass we should avoid) I have tried every pain med out there and nothing provides relief. And yes even chiropractors, yoga, all natural/healthy lifestyle, etc.

I am scheduling the fusion finally after so many years of suffering. FYI L3-4 L4-5
My question “plea for help” has anyone found something that will help with control the pain? Certain med, combination of meds, way it is administered. TIA

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Hi @dulfam4, welcome. Wow, dealing with back pain for 20+ years. That's a long time.

You'll notice that I moved your question about pain management to this existing disucssion:
- Pain meds for Gastric bypass patients https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pain-meds-for-gastric-bypass-patients/

I did this so you can read previous posts and connect easily with other members like @ealeonard1214 @claytamos @mrsdiehl @fourof5zs and more. Like you @grandmar is dealing specifically with back issues and is a bariatric surgery patient. I hope she'll pop in to offer thoughts and her experience.

Dulfam, I surely hope your upcoming spinal fusion surgery helps. You might also be interested in connecting with members in the Spine Health group here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/spine-health/

In fact, here's a related discussion that @grandmar started:
- Cervical disk replacement surgery: What helps with the pain? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cervical-disk-replacement-surgery/

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I have severe lower back pain and have been told for almost 13 years you will need a fusion and wait as long as possible your to young. I have been through everything possible to try and reduce my pain with no success. Every spine doctor or surgery even Mayo Clinic agreed. I am highly allergic to all NSAIDs (with bypass we should avoid) I have tried every pain med out there and nothing provides relief. And yes even chiropractors, yoga, all natural/healthy lifestyle, etc.

I am scheduling the fusion finally after so many years of suffering. FYI L3-4 L4-5
My question “plea for help” has anyone found something that will help with control the pain? Certain med, combination of meds, way it is administered. TIA

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Profile picture for Gail Benson Ledesma , Alumni Mentor @gailb

@kduran23

I understand some of what you've been going through as I had a RnY in July, 2014. I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad time with your surgery! I have had a couple of issues over the years with 1 ulcer and chronic gastritis. However, overall I have had great success with it. I lost 85 pounds in 9 months and have stayed at that weight loss until this winter. I have gained 6 pounds recently, but I'm not worried as I just need to go back to the strict original diet to get back down.

One thing I know is that picking the right surgeon is the most important part of the surgery. It sounds as if you may have had a surgeon who messed up on your original surgery, followed by a second bad surgery. I have a few questions for you that may help us understand what's going on with you now.
1. Did you go thru a 6 month pre - surgery education program?
2. Did your surgery office provide you with an eating plan for post - surgery?
3. Did you see your surgeon during your fist 6 months at least 3 times?
4. Were you told to take vitamins daily and what kind of vitamins to take?
5. Did you follow the directions you were given?
6. What have you been told is your current problem/diagnosis?
7. How old are you? (I'm 69)
Answers to the questions will be helpful to see where you are right now, not to judge anything you have or haven't done. Thank you for sharing your difficulties with your sugery and pain levels with us. I have a feeling you will be helping me as well as yourself. I too have been a victim of chronic pain as you may read on this site. Mayo Connect has been incredibly helpful for me.

Warm regards, Gailb

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Gailb,
I appreciate your response as I’m determine d to lose weight I’ve been carrying for decades. Your questions have answered some of mine.

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Profile picture for arichards198317 @arichards198317

I tested positive yesterday, wondering if I can take ibuprofen intermittently with acetaminophen for fever control?

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Hi @arichards198317 and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. While I can't offer actual medical advice, I can tell you from personal experience that I have used NSAIDS VERY sparingly in my time since having the surgery in 2007. A high dose of prescribed ibuprofen sent me to the ER in 2010, but we later found out that I had gastric ulcers and the medication caused my ulcer to perforate. I went septic and it caused peritonitis.

According to some studies, there is not a lot to be said about reported cases though.
"Conclusion: NSAID use in our bariatric surgery population is high despite an institutional policy to prohibit their use across all bariatric patients. Despite the high incidence of NSAID use in our patient population, we could not identify a single case of an NSAID-induced gastrointestinal complication in our retrospective review. NSAID use after SG may be a safe and viable pain management strategy that needs further evaluation." --- The use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs after sleeve gastrectomy: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33353863/

Tylenol (acetaminophen) is normally better for keeping fevers at bay and may be easier on your stomach.
Have you discussed with your doctor at all?

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I tested positive yesterday, wondering if I can take ibuprofen intermittently with acetaminophen for fever control?

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I am 19 years out gastric bypass
I only take Tylenol arthritis pain reliever
I use a pain patch for hip pain
There might be other meds that are not nsaids
Cortisone shots

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