Pacemaker recipients: Looking for support from others

Posted by balubeje @balubeje, May 25, 2016

I am coming on a year post op having a pacemaker placement for bradycardia. I would be interested in a support group with the same concerns. I think a support network would be so beneficial.

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@cottagecountry

Hello joyh

You are a rare individual. Only about 10% of implanted cardiac devices are CRTs. And of that 10%, less than half are CRT-Ps! You are (almost) an unicorn! 🦄 Talk about being pretty unique.
How long have you had one? How are you doing with yours?

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Hello, my pacemaker CRT-P (biventricular pacemaker) was placed in July. I hade an AV node Ablation last year due to unrelenting AFib. mostly causing Tachy 190-200. Left atrium is severely enlarged due to AFib and probably sleep apnea. Needless to say my ventricles and meds couldn't keep up with my circulatory needs so next step was the CRT. I'm feeling moderately better but still have shortness of breath on exertion and some fatigue. I'm hoping to feel even better, but only time will tell. I also hope to live a few more years too.
Thanks for your interest.

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@joyh

I, too would be thankful for a specific group for Pacemakers. I now have my second pacemaker (CRT-P) and feel the group would be helpful to ease into any questions that come along.
Thanks

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Hello joyh

You are a rare individual. Only about 10% of implanted cardiac devices are CRTs. And of that 10%, less than half are CRT-Ps! You are (almost) an unicorn! 🦄 Talk about being pretty unique.
How long have you had one? How are you doing with yours?

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@irishpeaks

Solid idea…I think it would be very helpful for those folks that are hesitant in going down that avenue.

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I, too would be thankful for a specific group for Pacemakers. I now have my second pacemaker (CRT-P) and feel the group would be helpful to ease into any questions that come along.
Thanks

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Solid idea…I think it would be very helpful for those folks that are hesitant in going down that avenue.

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@cottagecountry

Hello brightwood
I understand your view on this but, in all honesty, it is not an either/or thing. I think you will find, quite naturally, a lot of overlap between the 2 groups. It is just that the focus might be a bit tighter on pacemaker-related issues.
I follow a couple of other groups on this page and, inevitable, there is a little "cross-pollination" going on. And that is great.
But, if someone is looking for answers and/or support with regards to either currently having or, perhaps, will be having a pacemaker in the future, having a separate group would make obtaining answers/support that much easier.
As it is now, one has to do a fair amount of "sleuthing" to discover the correct threads to find answers, let alone who to ask. (This current thread started in 2016. A lot of things have changed since then.)
As an example, I was going to start a query about anxiety. Anxiety is not unique to any one condition or group. And I realize there is a Depression/Anxiety support group . But, for me, I have become far more anxious after I received this device (I have a CRT-D) than I ever was before. Before the implant, I was someone who thought more along the lines of Alfred E. Neuman of Mad Magazine fame, whose motto was "What, me worry?" Nah.
Now, worry/anxiety have become a strange fact of my life. Why? Do other pacemaker recipients experience increased anxiety? Do they think it has something to do with the device - in that they are now more or less(as individuals, the necessity for one varies and so does the level of dependence on the unit) reliant on a mechanical device to keep going? Do we fear it will fail us? If one has a defibrillator, do we worry about it "firing"? What coping mechanisms do they use to deal with? Do I do something to deal with my anxiety that could be of assistance to others with CEIDs?
I have read a number of articles about those who receive organ transplants and how their personalities frequently change after receiving one. I am, in no way, equating having a cardiac device implanted with the enormity of an organ transplant and the ramifications that come with that, but still I wonder.
There are so many issues that arise from having a pacemaker implanted that are quite peculiar to the device themselves. Replacing leads, replacing generators, "upgrading" from single or dual chambered devices to 3 chamber devices, to even developing heart failure that can be attributed to having a pacemaker. It is not common but it is not unheard of. What can I do (or nor do) with one? Is travel safe? Can I use a chainsaw? What about electromagnetic fields? Can I exercise? Can I swim? Can compete in bike races? Can I golf? How about play baseball? I am safe around a microwave? Or a welder? The list of queries is almost endless. (I have a friend who has a pacemaker for over 35 years and he has now developed heart failure. I am trying to convince him to join this new group. There is not much he does know about pacemakers and living with one. He is also very upbeat and tremendously supportive.)
Like you, I have had many issues with medications, have both sustained and non-sustained SVTs, atrial and ventricular tachycardia. I have received numerous cardioversions (not from my device, thank goodness), electrical problems (LBBB) and have stage 4, class D heart failure, as well as Dilated cardiomyopathy. And like many who get a cardiac device implanted, I thought that would take of things. But that has turned out not to be necessarily true.
So, in closing, I think there is room for a dedicated group for both would-be and current pacemaker recipients. One that maybe be able to provide some reassurance and shared experience to fellow members, as well as others.
Kind Regards.

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I agree. I’d love to see a dedicated Pacemaker group.
I am grateful for Mayo Connect formats but there is always room for improvement.

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@cottagecountry

Yes, eunice18, it can be. But not necessarily in a bad way.
For me, the biggest takeaway has been gratitude. I have learned to count my blessings of which I have many. I am now very aware that each day is a gift and oh so many others in this world did not get to experience 70 years like I have. And while some days present challenges, I am thankful to be here to "manage" them.

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So agree!! There is nothing like the appreciation that goes along with the PM!! So grateful for a great recovery and the opportunities ahead!!

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@eunice18

Post PM seems to be a bit of a different world than before! Great to hear others stories and reflect!! Hang in there!!

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Yes, eunice18, it can be. But not necessarily in a bad way.
For me, the biggest takeaway has been gratitude. I have learned to count my blessings of which I have many. I am now very aware that each day is a gift and oh so many others in this world did not get to experience 70 years like I have. And while some days present challenges, I am thankful to be here to "manage" them.

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Post PM seems to be a bit of a different world than before! Great to hear others stories and reflect!! Hang in there!!

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@cottagecountry

Hello brightwood
I understand your view on this but, in all honesty, it is not an either/or thing. I think you will find, quite naturally, a lot of overlap between the 2 groups. It is just that the focus might be a bit tighter on pacemaker-related issues.
I follow a couple of other groups on this page and, inevitable, there is a little "cross-pollination" going on. And that is great.
But, if someone is looking for answers and/or support with regards to either currently having or, perhaps, will be having a pacemaker in the future, having a separate group would make obtaining answers/support that much easier.
As it is now, one has to do a fair amount of "sleuthing" to discover the correct threads to find answers, let alone who to ask. (This current thread started in 2016. A lot of things have changed since then.)
As an example, I was going to start a query about anxiety. Anxiety is not unique to any one condition or group. And I realize there is a Depression/Anxiety support group . But, for me, I have become far more anxious after I received this device (I have a CRT-D) than I ever was before. Before the implant, I was someone who thought more along the lines of Alfred E. Neuman of Mad Magazine fame, whose motto was "What, me worry?" Nah.
Now, worry/anxiety have become a strange fact of my life. Why? Do other pacemaker recipients experience increased anxiety? Do they think it has something to do with the device - in that they are now more or less(as individuals, the necessity for one varies and so does the level of dependence on the unit) reliant on a mechanical device to keep going? Do we fear it will fail us? If one has a defibrillator, do we worry about it "firing"? What coping mechanisms do they use to deal with? Do I do something to deal with my anxiety that could be of assistance to others with CEIDs?
I have read a number of articles about those who receive organ transplants and how their personalities frequently change after receiving one. I am, in no way, equating having a cardiac device implanted with the enormity of an organ transplant and the ramifications that come with that, but still I wonder.
There are so many issues that arise from having a pacemaker implanted that are quite peculiar to the device themselves. Replacing leads, replacing generators, "upgrading" from single or dual chambered devices to 3 chamber devices, to even developing heart failure that can be attributed to having a pacemaker. It is not common but it is not unheard of. What can I do (or nor do) with one? Is travel safe? Can I use a chainsaw? What about electromagnetic fields? Can I exercise? Can I swim? Can compete in bike races? Can I golf? How about play baseball? I am safe around a microwave? Or a welder? The list of queries is almost endless. (I have a friend who has a pacemaker for over 35 years and he has now developed heart failure. I am trying to convince him to join this new group. There is not much he does know about pacemakers and living with one. He is also very upbeat and tremendously supportive.)
Like you, I have had many issues with medications, have both sustained and non-sustained SVTs, atrial and ventricular tachycardia. I have received numerous cardioversions (not from my device, thank goodness), electrical problems (LBBB) and have stage 4, class D heart failure, as well as Dilated cardiomyopathy. And like many who get a cardiac device implanted, I thought that would take of things. But that has turned out not to be necessarily true.
So, in closing, I think there is room for a dedicated group for both would-be and current pacemaker recipients. One that maybe be able to provide some reassurance and shared experience to fellow members, as well as others.
Kind Regards.

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I agree

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I can understand your anxiety.

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