Orgovyx

It could be loneliness 🥺 ...
Do you have any family or friends that can offer you the same kind of support and care ? If not you can try spending some time with other people in community centers, church/temple, support groups, gym, hobby groups , etc etc. Some people find comfort in having pets.

I hope you will start feeling better very soon. 🌺

@surftohealth88 my wife was diagnosed with uterine cancer last week and she copes by reading. Maybe an operation last of this month. I hate to leave her alone. Can't talk to.her because I say the same thing. I did think of loneliness .though. One daughter I talk to and another cousin I text to. The other daughter has her hands full with 2 toddlers. I am on clonazepam less than half a dose. He assured me I can stay on this. I've got 3 more months and maybe 1 more with decreasing symptoms. Thought about support group or therapist but not sure what they can do. Thanks for responding.

possum196, this is so touching. You have such great therapists that you'll be sad to get well.
It's the orgovyx. It makes grown men cry at the drop of a hat. When you stop orgovyx, you'll laugh, and feel stonger, but you'll always remember those therapists with deep fondness.

ADT (Orgovyx)causes anxiety and depression for many people. I know of some people that have said they have had crying bouts because of being on ADT.

You are not alone with this problem.

Some people have found that getting a lot of exercise can offset these issues. Others have gotten drugs that can alleviate anxiety and depression. Definitely something to talk to your Therapist. She may be able to refer you to a Doctor Who can prescribe something if exercise doesn’t work.

@possum1969
I am sooo, sooo sorry to hear that now your wife was diagnosed with cancer too, 😢, oh boy this is really such a tough position to be in : ((((, I can only imagine your distress. Good that you have 2 daughters who will help you both through this extremely tough situation.

Klonozapem is very good drug IMHO. I was on it for 7 years with zero problems (to help with pain caused by damaged nerve) and was able to get of it in just 7 days with no problem. However it is kind of a sedative and it can cause feelings of being "down" for some people. For me it did not have any side effects, if anything it made me more active since I was in no pain while using it and was able to sleep like a baby.

Support groups and counseling can help since they offer the space where you can openly share your feelings and also help you learn methods of how to deal with high stress situations. So, in moments when your wife is reading and daughters are occupied with their own life you can have sympathetic ear and comfort offered by other people who are in the same situation or by a therapist who will perhaps be as caring as those RT doctors. You will not feel alone in your pain.

Now, can Orgovyx cause depression - yes, but you obviously were not so down while you had your RT sessions and was around people who offered you some sympathy and extra attention so perhaps Orgovyx is not to blame for this level of sadness that you are experiencing now. and yes, as @jeffmarc said - exercise can help A LOT with mood and you should be exercising while on ADT to prevent muscle loos and bone loss too.

I hope you feel much better soon and I am wishing you complete eradication of cancer and to your wife super successful surgery with very fast and complete recovery. 🍀

I just finished 18 months on Orgovyx. My testosterone has been <10 for more than a year, and I am also very emotional. It's pretty easy to be brought to tears. https://ancan.org/ has a group, "Men Speaking Freely," to talk about emotional struggles while dealing with cancer, and I recommend it.

My RO asked me if I found myself crying a lot during emotional scenes in movies. He's observed that exaggerated emotional reactions are common among his patients that are on ADT.

The main exaggerated emotional reaction I've had came when I try to relay jokes I've found particularly funny to my wife. Sometimes I can't get through the re-telling of the joke because I can't stop laughing so hard. The jokes are not that funny....

Testosterone deprivation doesn't help — I was on a real emotional rollercoaster for my first 12 months or so of ADT, before things stabilised, even crying at corny TV commercials — but as others have mentioned, that's on top of normal human loneliness, and the well-known psychological phenomenon of Transference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference
Loneliness and transference are challenges for anyone dealing with a serious illness (and concern for a spouse who's withdrawing to deal with her own illness); ADT is just a force multiplier on top of those.

My advice is not to fight it, but to name it, accept it, and let it pass, something like this:

- I feel intense emotions thinking about my female therapists
- Oh yes, it's the transference again; perfectly normal in my situation
- I'd better pause for a moment while this is happening
- It's very strong this time; I wonder how long it will take to pass
- Ah, it's starting to fade; I don't feel quite as sad
- OK, it's dropped below 50% of its peak, so let's resume my normal life

@gently yes thank you. I have wrote them 2 letters. One was good bye and the 2nd at my last appointment was I'm sorry I didn't think I was a good patient and hope I didn't offend them. The first was that I loved them and loved how they took care of me. The second was how I felt I embarrassed myself by breaking down trying to day I loved them. One therapist came and gave me a hug and on my last day I finally told them. I just had a hard time on talking to them because I was afraid I would cry and say wrong thing. I asked my urologist urologist if I did something wrong and he said that he would have said the same and would have been upset at me if I didn't try again to tell them that I love them. He told me that I always speak from my heart. At my next appt and last one all 3 gave me hugs again so I guess I didn't offend them. But I keep doubting myself and getting upset at myself because I didn't talk to them much at all. I know I am hard on myself but that's me.

@jime51
I also attend the “ Men speaking freely” Meetings at ancan.org. The last one was two days ago on Thursday. This meeting had Lots of talk about wives or girlfriends giving support for men with prostate cancer. Not necessarily as “care givers”, more as a helpful addition to a stressful life situation.

The men in this group, get a lot of comfort talking about their mental health issues. The discussion vary considerably. No women allowed however.